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Pokemon Stars Discussion Thread (Speculation)

Discussion in 'Pokémon Video Games' started by RileyXY1, Nov 19, 2016.

Voter count: 102
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Do you think that Stars is real or Fake

Poll closed May 16, 2017.
  1. Real

    61 vote(s)
    59.8%
  2. Fake

    41 vote(s)
    40.2%
  1. FedoraWearingMarowak

    FedoraWearingMarowak Why can't I just change this awful username?

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    The examples I used were a joke, taking a lighthearted jab at how some people (Not necessarily anyone here, more the websites reporting on it) jumped to conclusions that they were hiring a modeler for a new main series Pokemon game. So I picked two hypothetical games that no one would want in comparison to a main series game.
     
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  2. Harmful Heron

    Harmful Heron Reactionary for a better future

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    I meant all the 3ds games lagged. SM XY and ORAS. BW2 didn't at least when off line. But GF willing overextended themselves on the 3ds.
     
  3. Zeb

    Zeb mind blown

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    In fairness, the listing starts with “Here’s a chance to work on the development of a globally popular RPG!" so I don't think that people are jumping to conclusions too much by thinking it's main series Pokemon.
     
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  4. RileyXY1

    RileyXY1 Young Battle Trainer

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    I believe that Stars is dead. This is probs for Gen 8. With Stars, according to Eurogamer, was developed alongside SM. They're just hiring these designers now. If Stars was real they would've hired them by now. We could still get our last 3DS Pokemon game (probs Sinnoh remakes) to tide us over while they develop their first Switch game.
     
  5. Akira Bond

    Akira Bond Stop saving the world and get a hobby.

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    As others have already said, it is entirely possible that they are hiring them to work on Gen VIII, not Stars. This does not discredit Stars yet AT ALL. We need more information before that line of thinking makes sense.
     
  6. SpiritWater

    SpiritWater Flowing...

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    Stars is dead?

    Pokemon Supernova confirmed! :p
     
  7. Ereshkigal

    Ereshkigal Far too mouthy for my own good.

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    And that will be the codename for an game named Galaxy, the precursor to an MMO named Multiverse :p
     
  8. SinnohEevee

    SinnohEevee Well-Known Member

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    We need a game that takes us to Mars. :p

    How about a Martian Pokémon? :p
     
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  9. Unown Seer

    Unown Seer Earnest

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    I'm still at a loss as to why some people don't understand that a third version would barely need any new models in the first place. The SM ones just need improved textures; it's unlikely that even the animations would be improved for the Switch.

    There are a lot of games with PS4 and Vita versions. In most cases, those versions aren't that different from each other graphically.

    That said, here is what actually makes me rethink the Stars report:
    1. According to Nintendo, the decision to release a Switch port of the Zelda game was only made last spring. In contrast, back in November Eurogamer referred to Stars as being "well into development" due to the "parallel development structure" alongside SM. The project was supposedly paused around September for SM's sake, but it would have been at least a year in development by then. The obvious question is: Why would Game Freak have had at least a 6 months' head start on the Zelda team, who are part of Nintendo? If anything, Game Freak are the ones that can bide their time regarding the Switch.
    2. The fact that the Zelda team decided to port their game so late implies that the Switch was originally supposed to be released in late 2017, which isn't hard to believe at all. And yet according to Eurogamer, Game Freak initially planned a summer 2017 release date? Regardless of the original target for the Switch's launch, Game Freak not waiting until the holidays would have been a weird move.
    3. Nintendo recently doubled their Switch sales forecast for the upcoming fiscal year (till April 2018). It's hard to imagine what would give them that much confidence if they didn't have Game Freak's support. But then, why did they have so much lower expectations until recently? Sure, the Switch's initial sales seem to have exceeded expectations, but that is not a reliable metric for the future (most consoles have similiar sales initially due to limited supplies). Could a Switch Pokemon game actually be a recent decision? Is anything Eurogamer said about Stars real?
    4. I don't doubt that Eurogamer has sources at Nintendo, but it seems to me that these "leaks" are actually marketing stunts. Maybe the Stars rumor was just a ruse meant to gauge interest in a 2017 Switch Pokemon title, but the specific details are deliberately false. It's one thing to make us expect Pokemon on the Switch, since that generates hype, but telling us what the game is doesn't leave much in the way of surprise. Why do that at least six months ahead of the announcement?
    5. It's possible that Game Freak have been working on a last 3DS project since 2015 or 2016, and they've only recently committed to a Switch port, in part due to the largely positive responses to the Stars rumor. Masuda may have been telling the truth about waiting to see how the Switch is received. I can actually picture Nintendo concocting a premature and mostly false report to prove to Masuda that his fears about the Switch are unwarranted.
    6. The problem with my theory is that even for a port, less than a year is not optimal for a company like Game Freak with no HD experience. But assuming that the idea was strongly pushed by Nintendo, I don't see why they wouldn't help Game Freak make it a reality, much like the Zelda port (which is a huge game).
    7. I can see a cross-platform release happening (again, in the vein of Zelda), but I think it would be quite forced to release two "third versions". At the very least they should be sequels, but Alola may not be involved at all. That would be best for the sales and more than feasible if Game Freak aren't the ones doing most of the technical work for the port.
     
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  10. Meta Boss

    Meta Boss The True Champ!

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    ^ This post has reignited my hopes for one more 3DS Pokemon game. (y)
     
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  11. PkmnTrainerV

    PkmnTrainerV Flame Trainer

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    I would gladly buy a 3DS for Sun, Moon and Stars alone, but it is TOO hard to find (Amazon sells for about $250), and 3DS will also come to an end soon, and I'd like to spend by money on something that lasts... so I wish a game on the Switch.
     
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  12. Unown Seer

    Unown Seer Earnest

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    I honestly think that it should be up to the player how to play the next game. That means two versions, due to the lack of backwards compatibility.
     
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  13. PkmnTrainerV

    PkmnTrainerV Flame Trainer

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    I think the best would be to port SM directly with tweaks under a different name to the Switch. Sun and Moon- the 3DS versions, and Solar and Lunar Eclipse - the Switch Editions of the same game.

    This way, it would be entirely optional for the 3DS owners, and they won't be losing much.
     
  14. Unown Seer

    Unown Seer Earnest

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    Ports of 1-year old games would hardly be best. The goal should be to maximize overall sales, regardless of the system. Your scenario would do the opposite.
     
  15. PkmnTrainerV

    PkmnTrainerV Flame Trainer

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    Then... I think they should try to promote Pokemon for Switch in the E3. How will Switch and Stars (with maybe a Charizard-Red/Blastoise-Blue/Venusaur-Green/Pikachu-Yellow JoyCon pack bundled be received?

    Don't forget that the people who didn't have a 3DS (console owners) will be brought into Pokemon's audience.
     
  16. SpiritWater

    SpiritWater Flowing...

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    If they release such a pack, I bet there would be people going: "Kanto sequels are next!". :p

    3DS would be handheld owners. Console owners would be WiiU owners.
     
  17. PkmnTrainerV

    PkmnTrainerV Flame Trainer

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    Alola forms have shown that they are willing to bank onto nostalgia... (I guess I want Charizard JoyCons as I want flame red, and wing patterns on my JoyCons XD)
    And, if they do a limited Charizard/Blastoise JoyCons bundled in a Switch instead of Neon JoyCons, they may sell more systems... I know that's cruel, but those are business groups.

    They are easily the most iconic Pokemon of the franchise, so The Fully evolved starters+Pikachu will be the first choice when it comes to Poké-Cons.

    What I meant is that Switch will have a more diverse audience for Pokemon, and people other than 3DS owners will buy Stars too.
    Suppose you're a console gamer, and keep away from handhelds. So, you have most likely not experienced Pokemon main games. You buy a Switch, and now, you are a part of Pokemon audience!
     
  18. RileyXY1

    RileyXY1 Young Battle Trainer

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    I don't think console gamers (the XBox and PS kind) will buy Pokemon, considering they typically prefer graphics over anything else, and Pokemon is lacking in that department.
     
  19. FedoraWearingMarowak

    FedoraWearingMarowak Why can't I just change this awful username?

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    True, but when I had made the comment I'd only seen the first translation that didn't mention the game being a globally popular RPG. I still probably would've made the joke though.
     
  20. Soki

    Soki Beep Boop Staff Coordinator

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    If they preferred graphics over anything else, they would've been PC gamers instead :p

    Seriously though, I think the biggest reason people play console games is because they like to play games on the tv while hanging out on the couch. The biggest reason I've heard from people who don't own handhelds is because handhelds have small screens and small buttons, it's just less comfortable to play games on. And Xbox and PS owners probably aren't that interested in getting a Switch in the first place, Stars is mostly interesting for Nintendo fans that are console-only gamers, and people who have played Pokémon on handheld, but would love to play it on TV. Both probably quite a big group anyway.