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Pokemon Stars Discussion Thread (Speculation)

Do you think that Stars is real or Fake

  • Real

    Votes: 61 59.8%
  • Fake

    Votes: 41 40.2%

  • Total voters
    102
  • Poll closed .
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So... Earlier, I suggested an element where Lillie plays a role in the story, having matured in the 2 years since she left. However, her house is not in order, as her mother is still recovering from the events of the first game & may never regain all her faculties, while Gladion vanished after the destruction of the Aether Foundation.

While trying to rebuild her old life, the player goes on a series of non linear quests to help restore the Foundation as she is put in charge by Wicke while her mother maintains s figurehead spot. These quests can be done in any order, and range from gathering energy components, recruiting wayward members, or performing good deeds.

As you progress, you are introduced to Lusamine, as she struggles to move around. It turns out the Nihilego toxins can damage the body on s cellular level, meaning she's frail. She could be in a wheelchair, or to go sci-fi, has a Darth Vader type life support suit to help minimize body stress. She still has her Nihilego, & calls it Friend, but her extremist stance has since mellowed to where she sees beauty in everything but has accepted that it is fleeting. Talking to Lillie & Wicke will explain what happened after they arrived in Kanto & found out that Bill didn't have the technology when they arrived & met him, so her recovery is still slow. However, Lillie expresses that her mom will be fully healed soon & that, although she left a black mark on the Foundation, she deserves a second chance. But, for now, they need somebody strong & she views this as the ultimate test.

As you complete these missions, outside of the standard Trial/Gym stuff, you run into this syndicate. They are a foreign faction that have sought Aether technology & research, and don't ask for anything. As s result, they have info on the Ultra Dimension & also have the final Type: Null ever made. The researchers want to make it reach it's origin of Type: Full without all that bonding crap (Type: Full & Silvaly are different in theology as Type: Full was meant to be the beast that could defeat the Gods and nothing more), & clone it. You'll actually run into members who have Type: Nulls on their team!

Their goal is to oppress the world by controlling all aspects of society, & their leader is a "by all costs" type of guy.

As for Gladion? Well... He went into isolation & has not been heard from in over a year. Knowing that they could find him if he moved back to civilization, he instead chose to live in seclusion on Poni Island. His first encounter will be LESS friendly than "Get out!"; he will physically attack the player! You'll have to earn his trust through missions of his own; as you complete them, he will describe his life & what happened that fateful day & curses becoming open with his heart as a result. Telling him about his family falls on deaf ears; this hostility will actually have him disown his "naive sister & delusional megalomaniac of a mother" the first time they are brought up.

But... Eventually, the family must be reunited, as their strength is required to help fight off the new threat. This would be full circle for this storyline as a broken household finally heals where Lusamine is willing to sacrifice her own life to battle the new leader, only to be stopped by her children.

Of course... If Nebby is involved... Would it be Solageo or Lunala? That's something that should be involved here.

Well... That's my boneheaded idea. Still trying to see where Guzma can be shoehorned. He owes Aether nothing but may do something as a soft spot.
 
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Wasn't Gladion going to take over Aether while his mom recovered
 
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Wasn't Gladion going to take over Aether while his mom recovered
Yes.

But in this idea, the Foundation was caught off guard by this syndicate, who employed a blitzkrieg. Gladion hurried to fight them using his Sivally & took out several grunts, but was caught off guard by the leader, who took advantage of its RKS System to defeat it. He was then forced to see the destruction of the island as they slashed & burned after stealing their quarry.

As the smoke cleared, the Foundation looked to Gladion for support, only for him to walk away. While he had that vow, Gladion is also very temperamental & viewed this as a personal failure of his because he always believed that power only mattered yet was do helpless, so his reaction would likely mimic what he had done in the past. It also would have him question being an outgoing person with his feelings, too, so that's why I want to see some additional hostility.

Again, there's a ton of flaws here, but I would like to see one criminal syndicate drive another group to ruin & you can help them out in rebuilding while thwarting the evil guys.
 
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I must say this thread has become so much better now that it's not a constant circular discussion over stars being fake.

What I really hope for is the ability to save teams to a Joy con so you can bring it along with you outside to battle wherever there is a switch.
 
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Yeah, its nice to see these conversations with more productive and creative ideas being thrown in.

I wonder if that is possible to do with Joy-cons. It would be a neat idea.
 
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So, I believe that in Stars, if it exists, the Battle Royal won't lag like hell.
 
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Here's another question: Let's just assume that Pokémon Stars is the name of the project in which the third version is the cornerstone. If Pokémon Stars is indeed just a single third version comparable to Yellow, Crystal, Emerald or Platinum versions instead of sequels like B2W2, is it possible that we might get Switch ports down the line of Pokémon Sun and Moon? Now, I know the argument concerning Sun and Moon's compatibility basically boils down to Pokémon Bank and all that sort of stuff, but what about the fundamental aspect of trading between players in Pokémon games? Because outside of Trade Evolutions, what difference would it even make trading between two versions that are essentially the same exact game?

Now yes, I know that it probably would not be a smart marketing decision to rerelease Pokémon Sun and Moon on the Switch and have that overshadow Pokémon Stars. Maybe they end up doing this quietly. Could even utilize Cloud Saves even to transfer your Save Files over from your 3DS games to the Switch if possible.

Gen 4 remakes are also a possibility so as to circumvent this little issue. Though I would like the idea that Sun and Moon, at the very least, could be ported over to the Switch eventually, if Stars turns out to be true, anyways.

And on a side note, what Pokémon do you guys think might get new Alolan forms in Stars? Perhaps water Arcanine and fighting Alakazam? I know, I know; but if we can get new Mega Evolutions in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, surely, we could get new forms of existing Pokémon? I doubt we'd be getting new species of Pokémon in Stars (never happened before, and I doubt it will ever happen in general), so I'm not predicting a new dolphin Pokémon unless that's a new Necrozma form (and even then, I think Wishiwashi School Form might have been the dolphin from the Chinese leak). Though I prefer the Godzilla comparison for Necrozma. Especially since this might actually turn Necrozma into a Psychic/Dragon-type, which we've never had that kind of typing before (maybe as a rival to Perfect Zygarde, even).
 
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Here's another question: Let's just assume that Pokémon Stars is the name of the project in which the third version is the cornerstone. If Pokémon Stars is indeed just a single third version comparable to Yellow, Crystal, Emerald or Platinum versions instead of sequels like B2W2, is it possible that we might get Switch ports down the line of Pokémon Sun and Moon? Now, I know the argument concerning Sun and Moon's compatibility basically boils down to Pokémon Bank and all that sort of stuff, but what about the fundamental aspect of trading between players in Pokémon games? Because outside of Trade Evolutions, what difference would it even make trading between two versions that are essentially the same exact game?

Now yes, I know that it probably would not be a smart marketing decision to rerelease Pokémon Sun and Moon on the Switch and have that overshadow Pokémon Stars. Maybe they end up doing this quietly. Could even utilize Cloud Saves even to transfer your Save Files over from your 3DS games to the Switch if possible.

Gen 4 remakes are also a possibility so as to circumvent this little issue. Though I would like the idea that Sun and Moon, at the very least, could be ported over to the Switch eventually, if Stars turns out to be true, anyways.

And on a side note, what Pokémon do you guys think might get new Alolan forms in Stars? Perhaps water Arcanine and fighting Alakazam? I know, I know; but if we can get new Mega Evolutions in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, surely, we could get new forms of existing Pokémon? I doubt we'd be getting new species of Pokémon in Stars (never happened before, and I doubt it will ever happen in general), so I'm not predicting a new dolphin Pokémon unless that's a new Necrozma form (and even then, I think Wishiwashi School Form might have been the dolphin from the Chinese leak). Though I prefer the Godzilla comparison for Necrozma. Especially since this might actually turn Necrozma into a Psychic/Dragon-type, which we've never had that kind of typing before (maybe as a rival to Perfect Zygarde, even).
The Latis were Dragon/Psychic.
 
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Here's another question: Let's just assume that Pokémon Stars is the name of the project in which the third version is the cornerstone. If Pokémon Stars is indeed just a single third version comparable to Yellow, Crystal, Emerald or Platinum versions instead of sequels like B2W2, is it possible that we might get Switch ports down the line of Pokémon Sun and Moon? Now, I know the argument concerning Sun and Moon's compatibility basically boils down to Pokémon Bank and all that sort of stuff, but what about the fundamental aspect of trading between players in Pokémon games? Because outside of Trade Evolutions, what difference would it even make trading between two versions that are essentially the same exact game?

Now yes, I know that it probably would not be a smart marketing decision to rerelease Pokémon Sun and Moon on the Switch and have that overshadow Pokémon Stars. Maybe they end up doing this quietly. Could even utilize Cloud Saves even to transfer your Save Files over from your 3DS games to the Switch if possible.
That could work, Since Nintendo Switch doesn't have Backward Compatibility to 3ds or Wii u, it's likely possible
Gen 4 remakes are also a possibility so as to circumvent this little issue. Though I would like the idea that Sun and Moon, at the very least, could be ported over to the Switch eventually, if Stars turns out to be true, anyways.
I think we likely to see Gen 4 remakes on Switch, since DPPl are playable on 3ds, maybe GF would do something special for DPPl, which I can guess they'll let you transfer the pokemon from DPPl and HGSS into DP remake, I don't know what type of method they'll but it's not using Pokebank

And on a side note, what Pokémon do you guys think might get new Alolan forms in Stars? Perhaps water Arcanine and fighting Alakazam? I know, I know; but if we can get new Mega Evolutions in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, surely, we could get new forms of existing Pokémon? I doubt we'd be getting new species of Pokémon in Stars (never happened before, and I doubt it will ever happen in general), so I'm not predicting a new dolphin Pokémon unless that's a new Necrozma form (and even then, I think Wishiwashi School Form might have been the dolphin from the Chinese leak). Though I prefer the Godzilla comparison for Necrozma. Especially since this might actually turn Necrozma into a Psychic/Dragon-type, which we've never had that kind of typing before (maybe as a rival to Perfect Zygarde, even).
I want to see a couple of thing in "Star"
  • More Alolan forms (Water Arcanine, Fighting Alakazam, etc.)
  • New Mega Evolutions (Johto Starters)
  • New Mechanic Z-forms
  • Split evolution line for the Starters
  • New third form for Lycanroc
  • New form for Marshadow
  • Necrozma getting a new form, that's not UB form
 
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Stars might not even be real. But now, share your ideas for what you want Stars to be like if it is legit.
 
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@RileyXY1, you're still not letting this "Star being fake" thing, aren't you. I know it's speculation, I'm starting to think it's real to me, I thought it was fake at first, but I have been looking around the internet, and they keep putting up hints on "Star", there's no telling what star is, either is port to sun and moon, third game or sequel. So we'll have to see what happen in 2017, and we might get more details on Nintendo Switch on January 12 2017
 
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I remember a while ago, someone on vp pointed out that Necrozma has pieces that seem like they could form a dinosaur/dragon. The head/body piece is very dragon like if you really think of it. I do feel like if Necrozma gets an expanded role, its likely to get an alternate form.
 
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I remember a while ago, someone on vp pointed out that Necrozma has pieces that seem like they could form a dinosaur/dragon. The head/body piece is very dragon like if you really think of it. I do feel like if Necrozma gets an expanded role, its likely to get an alternate form.
Ooh give me the link to vp, I wanna hear it!
Are you going to do this every page?

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It is getting annoying, plus you did create the thread, making it a discussion
 
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Stars might not even be real. But now, share your ideas for what you want Stars to be like if it is legit.
Not to be impolite or a backseat moderator, but what exactly was the point behind this post?

For the topic, though, I think a new concept to add on to (or replace a position in) the Pokémon League (namely Gym Leaders, Elite Four, Champion) could be interesting. Perhaps an entire replacement to the League, like the Trials, but considerably more similar to the aforementioned League.
 
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Big long post

Of course... If Nebby is involved... Would it be Solageo or Lunala? That's something that should be involved here.

Well... That's my boneheaded idea. Still trying to see where Guzma can be shoehorned. He owes Aether nothing but may do something as a soft spot.
I was just thinking about S&M and how I'd really rather have a sequel than a third version or DP remakes. I think you're idea is great, my only real dissent is that I really don't want a story that dark. I honestly was heartbroken enough by the ending of S&M, I really want there to be a sequel where Lillie and Gladion (and their Mother) have found happiness and some other person in the story attempts to do whatever evil involving the UB's/Aether Foundation/Team Numbskull

How about Prof. Kukui be the evil dude in the sequels? Dude was useless already in S&M. Or how about Mohn? That dude has got to have lots of free time running the Poke Pelago. Enough free time to plot to take over the world.
 
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Ooh give me the link to vp, I wanna hear it!
Sorry, but I don't think I could find it again there. It was a very long time ago, like datamining season I wanna call it? I could look around tumblr to see if its still around or anything.
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Also can we please not go back to the Stars is 100% fake argument. We've had a good day or two full of productive conversations.
 
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What I want in Stars
  • Hopefully the Switch can provide enough room so there's less lag. I like the Battle Royal concept itself - I just find the horrible lag annoying.
  • I want GameFreak to bring back difficulty modes. They did it for B2W2, so they can do it again. It'll make everyone happy and stop the complaints about the games being too difficult or too easy.
  • Do something about the SOS battles. Restrict it to the Adrenaline Orb or something. Or allow ball throwing when there's multiple pokemon on the field.
  • No more Kanto, please. I know people love Kanto and all the nostalgia, but there's such a thing as going overboard. I'm starting to think they're fearing the games might not be successful if there's no Kanto in it. It feels like Kanto nostalgia is their one lifeline they're connecting to every game.
  • More clothes for the male characters. Please more clothes for the male characters.
  • Bring back all the mega stones.
  • Give us a place to grind to level 100. Or daily/weekly/monthly battles against NPCs. Rematches that aren't restricted to the Elite Four
 
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Speaking of grinding to level 100, I'd actually really love it if friend safaris would return. I had one that had Pokemon like Blissey and Audino and those were excellent for grinding. About 1500+ for each one I'd take down. It might have been like 2000 cause if I remember, Pokemon in XY gained more EXP if you had full affection from them on Pokemon-Amie. I'm not 100% sure if that was the case though.
 
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I hope that we can get all of the outfit colors in this game. Also, the game will look much sharper considering it's made for the Switch. Also, I believe that the walking with your Pokemon feature will return.
 
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