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Luna Tiger

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Okay, to explain: to "cap" does not mean "to modify".

To "cap" a screenshot is to "capture" it in its original form. Meaning it is real.

So when Musashi says she capped it....she screencapped it. It's a screenshot. Very real, very not messed with.

Three voices of authority have said as much, and one of them is a mod in the anime section. There's little to doubt here. No more on the subject of its authenticity, please.
 

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Mmm, I got the impression that might have been where the confusion lay. I do hope it clears everything up for the rest who were confused.
 

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Why do you think writers have forgotten or will forget Misty o_O *krhm* I really doubt it, and that screenshot alone doesn't prove it. We saw her also in the opening "High Touch" among other main characters.
[by the way, I saw that preview of DP special on thursday and I became quite happy when I saw those pictures on Brock's wall]

I don't really believe that Misty has been forgotten. I was just commenting on her complete and utter absence in the DP saga. I mean, besides the lure, she didn't appear in flashbacks or get any other mention. (I keep on forgetting that sarcasm doesn't really work in writng). Anyways, I'm glad she's getting a cameo.
 

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Okay, to explain: to "cap" does not mean "to modify".

To "cap" a screenshot is to "capture" it in its original form. Meaning it is real.

so that what it means..

Why do you think writers have forgotten or will forget Misty o_O *krhm* I really doubt it, and that screenshot alone doesn't prove it. We saw her also in the opening "High Touch" among other main characters.
[by the way, I saw that preview of DP special on thursday and I became quite happy when I saw those pictures on Brock's wall]

I don't think the writers forget MIsty.Besides,if they did forgot her,maybe they're too busy making the future generation..I mean,I really think the writers didn't forget about MIsty,she's one the important chracters from the very first..and she made a role in the series too.. without MIsty,no POkeshipping


I'm looking forward to that special episode:)..I wonder what would it be..^^
 
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I don't really believe that Misty has been forgotten. I was just commenting on her complete and utter absence in the DP saga
Well, I think writers didn't have any reason to bring her back for just couple of episodes in DP. For example, the Wallace cup was great opportunity for May to make a cameo but it's so much harder for Misty, as she is a gymleader, she has full responsibility of the gym and cannot just decide to go to see Ash to Sinnoh :/

Of course I truly wanted her to make her own cameo but I still don't want that she apperas for one-two episodes, if she hasn't any good role in those episodes [or any Pokeshippy >.<]
 

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Well, I think writers didn't have any reason to bring her back for just couple of episodes in DP. For example, the Wallace cup was great opportunity for May to make a cameo but it's so much harder for Misty, as she is a gymleader, she has full responsibility of the gym and cannot just decide to go to see Ash to Sinnoh :/

Of course I truly wanted her to make her own cameo but I still don't want that she apperas for one-two episodes, if she hasn't any good role in those episodes [or any Pokeshippy >.<]

I never thought about it that way, but it makes sense now why they didn't bring Misty back in DP.

Having said that, this special episode with Brock would be a good opportunity for her to make an appearance. It's in the same region, and it's also fairly close to Cerulean City (cause I'm assuming it will be set in Pewter City)

And I know we can't expect too much with this, but a little pokeshipping hint wouldn't hurt either (just a little food for thought, Nintendo).
 

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Well, I think that's enough of the "Misty isn't here topic", we overdo that one as it is.

to switch it up a bit, how about I borrow a topic from our esteemed comrades over at PearlShipping (because hey, why not?):

Who would you rather have jealous, Misty or Ash?
 

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Who would you rather have jealous, Misty or Ash?

Ash for 2 reasons:

1)there's already plenty of Misty being jealous

2)basically the same reason as wanting an Ash hint, there're fewer and when they happen they mean that much more haha
 

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Who would you rather have jealous, Misty or Ash?

Good question. We've seen jealousy from both, 3 or 4 times from both of them. I would say that I would rather see Ash jealous. I agree with firezard about wanting an Ash hint, for the notable deficiency of them, compared to Misty hints. But what I think makes Ash more interesting to watch when he's jealous, is that he has no idea why. Don't get me wrong, Misty is still interesting to watch too, but you can almost see Ash's inner struggle when someone threatens to take Misty away from him.

You can tell that when Misty's jealous, she's saying to herself "I should be the one who has Ash, not this girl," as she says things like "he's booked" (to Macey). She's a bit predictable, in that respect, but Ash is much more erratic. He doesn't know what to say to himself. His thoughts probably go something like this: "I don't like this. Why don't I like this?", so he doesn't know what to do. This results in him doing things like falling off mountainsides (Navel Maneuvers) and carelessly sending out his disobedient Charizard during a precision exercise (Misty Meets Her Match). He gets confused, saying things like "Who does this guy think he is anyway?", "What's she so worried about him for?", and "What about me?" (all from Navel Maneuvers).

Basically I think it's a little more interesting to watch Ash be jealous from a psychological perspective.
 

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'Cause I haven't posted here in FOREVER! I'll post now.

Who would you rather have jealous, Misty or Ash?

ASh. Misty got Jealous often enough when she was there. NOW ITS HIS TURN!
 

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@Sardonicus

wow you were able to vocalize what I was thinking much better than me haha
 

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Who would you rather have jealous, Misty or Ash?

Ash. Well it's more cute to see a guuys get jealous.
Ash need some his side hints..
 

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Who would you rather have jealous, Misty or Ash?

Well, perhaps Ash. It would be more interesting that way, seeing Ash jealous. Besides, we didn't see Ash jealous as more as Misty, though that isn't the most important thing. It would be very interesting, maybe even cute, how Ash would react on that situation and how would he handle it. Sardonicus had very good points on this which I'm not going to repeat, as I had kinda similar thoughts.
 

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Who would you rather have jealous, Misty or Ash?

Ash. That is all. For the reasons Sardonicus has already stated.

On a related note, I agree with the differences between the thought processes when Ash gets jealous as opposed to when Misty gets jealous. I think there are three things that go through each of their minds when jealousy pops up.

What emotion am I feeling?
What's making me feel this way?
Why am I feeling this way?

Both of them can answer the first two questions; it's the third question that makes the difference.

Misty:
What emotion am I feeling? Jealousy
What's making me feel this way? There's a girl asking Ash out/kissing Ash/touching Ash/showing interest in him in some way.
Why am I feeling this way? Because I love him and believe I'm the one who should be doing those things with him.

Ash:
What emotion am I feeling? Anger (I don't think he understood what jealousy was when his episodes of it happened)
What's making me feel this way? Misty is showing interest in another guy/flirting with another guy or vice-versa
Why am I feeling this way? I don't know.

The answer to the third question affects how they react to the situation, which I think goes something like this.

Misty's reaction: Covert protest through glares and biting comments so I can let my displeasure show while still keeping my feelings for Ash a secret.

Ash's reaction: I don't know why I don't like this, but I want it to stop so I'll be very vocal about my displeasure with what's going on and hope that will change the situation.
 
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Who would you rather have jealous, Misty or Ash?

Ash, of course. Although there are times when Ash gets jealous (like Navel Maneuvers and Misty meets her match) they just don't come near to the amount of times Misty has been jealous. More of Ash being jealous would suit me fine.

Plus, Ash is dense, so it's always progress when he does something that we can interpret as a shipping hint.
 

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Who would you rather have jealous, Misty or Ash?

Ash. That is all. For the reasons Sardonicus has already stated.

On a related note, I agree with the differences between the thought processes when Ash gets jealous as opposed to when Misty gets jealous. I think there are three things that go through each of their minds when jealousy pops up.

What emotion am I feeling?
What's making me feel this way?
Why am I feeling this way?

Both of them can answer the first two questions; it's the third question that makes the difference.

Misty:
What emotion am I feeling? Jealousy
What's making me feel this way? There's a girl asking Ash out/kissing Ash/touching Ash/showing interest in him in some way.
Why am I feeling this way? Because I love him and believe I'm the one who should be doing those things with him.

Ash:
What emotion am I feeling? Anger (I don't think he understood what jealousy was when his episodes of it happened)
What's making me feel this way? Misty is showing interest in another guy/flirting with another guy or vice-versa
Why am I feeling this way? I don't know.

The answer to the third question affects how they react to the situation, which I think goes something like this.

Misty's reaction: Covert protest through glares and biting comments so I can let my displeasure show while still keeping my feelings for Ash a secret.

Ash's reaction: I don't know why I don't like this, but I want it to stop so I'll be very vocal about my displeasure with what's going on and hope that will change the situation.

This. This is exactly what I wanted to say.

I wanted to get a little more into it, but didn't have the time. Life's getting busy, unfortunately. Anyway, that is exactly why Ash is erratic when he gets jealous, because he knows that the other guy is what's causing his anger, and he doesn't like it. He doesn't know why he doesn't like it, but he wants it to stop, so he'll do anything to stop it. He shouts and lets his anger get the better of him, leading to carelessness. That disconnect Ash has from his feelings, his lack of awareness, is what allows him to be dramatic about it. Misty would say to herself "if I react too badly, Ash might suspect something", but Ash doesn't know to think that, so he just goes ahead and reacts.
 

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This. This is exactly what I wanted to say.

I wanted to get a little more into it, but didn't have the time. Life's getting busy, unfortunately. Anyway, that is exactly why Ash is erratic when he gets jealous, because he knows that the other guy is what's causing his anger, and he doesn't like it. He doesn't know why he doesn't like it, but he wants it to stop, so he'll do anything to stop it. He shouts and lets his anger get the better of him, leading to carelessness. That disconnect Ash has from his feelings, his lack of awareness, is what allows him to be dramatic about it. Misty would say to herself "if I react too badly, Ash might suspect something", but Ash doesn't know to think that, so he just goes ahead and reacts.

Exactly. With Misty it's like, "Okay, this is making me REALLY pissed off, but if I react too strongly, people (especially Ash) may suspect something and that's the last thing I want. I've gotta keep it low profile."

With Ash, it's a lot more simple. "I don't like this. I REALLY don't like this! I don't really understand why, but that doesn't matter. This makes me angry and I'm going to let them know it makes me angry so that maybe they'll take a hint and cut it out because I just want it to STOP!"
 

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Sorry everyone for this sudden drop in but i would like to comment on something,and i have to say seeing Misty at least in photo on Brocks wall was nice way to show how writers are still aware of her existence not forgetting about her.
This can be annotated in different ways,but maybe she might have chance to return in person in future.

Well, I think writers didn't have any reason to bring her back for just couple of episodes in DP. For example, the Wallace cup was great opportunity for May to make a cameo but it's so much harder for Misty, as she is a gymleader, she has full responsibility of the gym and cannot just decide to go to see Ash to Sinnoh :/

Of course I truly wanted her to make her own cameo but I still don't want that she apperas for one-two episodes, if she hasn't any good role in those episodes [or any Pokeshippy >.<]

To be fair writers had couple of good opportunities to bring Misty back if they wanted like:
-we all know her ultimate goal was to become water master,so coming in DP for some water tournament(similar to Whirl Cup)to advance her dream would make sense
-or to catch new water tye which cant be find at place were she lives being possibly involved in some plot like Gary helped gang about villains.
-appearing at Pallet town was also plausible idea but writers missed on that
-considering she appeared again in games(HGSS remakes),writers could have use her as one of candidates to advertize them.
-some say she could come for Sinnoh league aswell to give moral support to Ash and perhaps even have small battle with him

Now that i think about it in that interview with mr.Hidaka awhile ago he also mentioned how if Misty rerurns she might come for some tournament like May did or have something to do with contests but not doing them,but it seems writers passed on that aswell.

As we can see from examples of Fantina,Jasmine,Candice etc, gym leaders can leave gym from certain period of time to travell for various purposes so its not like it would be problem if Misty left gym aswell.Sure unlike some other cases Misty doesnt have realible substitutes to take care of gym while shes absent(like its been showed with rather useless sisters which rushed her back shortly after she leftgym in her last cameo),but in reality that wasnt really an obstacle since writers could fix this easily if they wanted to have Misty appear in DP giing her some time to shine on her own.

I think reason why Misty wasnt showed in DP at all is more among the lines of writers having too many older characters already on their hands who left which was caused by too many replacings,to have every one of them return in one region.

That and unfortunately they rather want to focus on new characters than older ones no matter what they might offer fo current show.
 
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