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Vioxx

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That and unfortunately they rather want to focus on new characters than older ones no matter what they might offer fo current show.

Yes,I'm gonna agree to this one. Writers maybe focussed on the current characters and makinga different kind of storyline. But the good part is Misty is isn't forgotten yet, but that is hard if she'll be returning or not.

*sniffs* Although she doesn't show some signs of having a cameo this time,I think,let's just keep this thread going..More hopes for Pokeshipping!!!

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Let's revive the ''scenes'' ..[again]


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MuddyMudkip

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Who would you rather have jealous, Misty or Ash?

Hmm... Tough question. I'd actually like them to both be jealous at other people.

But.. ASH ASH ASH. Even if they both had their share of jealousy, we desperately need clues from Ash. Misty has had her share as she had more envious moments--except when they were in the Orange Islands, yeah that was a great season, Ash being jealous... Ahh, I love the Orange League...

EDIT: Agrees to last few posts above me. ^^
 

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To be fair writers had couple of good opportunities to bring Misty back if they wanted like:
-we all know her ultimate goal was to become water master,so coming in DP for some water tournament(similar to Whirl Cup)to advance her dream would make sense
-or to catch new water tye which cant be find at place were she lives being possibly involved in some plot like Gary helped gang about villains.
-appearing at Pallet town was also plausible idea but writers missed on that
-considering she appeared again in games(HGSS remakes),writers could have use her as one of candidates to advertize them.
-some say she could come for Sinnoh league aswell to give moral support to Ash and perhaps even have small battle with him

Now that i think about it in that interview with mr.Hidaka awhile ago he also mentioned how if Misty rerurns she might come for some tournament like May did or have something to do with contests but not doing them,but it seems writers passed on that aswell.

As we can see from examples of Fantina,Jasmine,Candice etc, gym leaders can leave gym from certain period of time to travell for various purposes so its not like it would be problem if Misty left gym aswell.
Those are such a good points but I have to disagree with some of them. For example that HGSS thing. Because Misty is only a gym leader in those games, writers had a better idea for bringing Lyra to anime and create that 'Johto festa' thing, which was kinda better idea as Lyra and Khoury were from Johto and had only pokémon from Johto region, thus Misty has only Corsola and Politoed.

Of course Misty could have travelled to Sinnoh, but it would have been difficult, as Sinnoh isn't located near to Kanto and she is the only one response of the gym. I also heard some rumours couple of years ago that Misty might appear in DP in some kind of tournament or so. But in my opinion, writers didn't see it necessary or important to give her a cameo in DP series.
 

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Those are such a good points but I have to disagree with some of them. For example that HGSS thing. Because Misty is only a gym leader in those games, writers had a better idea for bringing Lyra to anime and create that 'Johto festa' thing, which was kinda better idea as Lyra and Khoury were from Johto and had only pokémon from Johto region, thus Misty has only Corsola and Politoed.

Misty appears as gym leader in more than one game,but your right from marketing point it made more sense to bring characters from Johto like Lyra,though it wouldnt have hurt if they choosed Misty as one of additional candidates to promote Gold and Silver remakes in process pleasing alot of oldr fans.About Johto pokemon in that case,she could bring with her some other Johto pokemon aside fromn those two(like Kingdra for example with Horsea evolving into it prior to that).

However writers probably didnt see need to use more of characters to promote new games.

Of course Misty could have travelled to Sinnoh, but it would have been difficult, as Sinnoh isn't located near to Kanto and she is the only one response of the gym.

Well to tell the thruth Hoenn wasnt very close either,but it didnt stopped her from travelling all the way to evolve Togepi.It really just depended on writers,in end choosing not to bring her.

Speaking of gym,her sisters are tehnically still gym leaders but passive ones not taking care anymore of it,though substitute would be the smalles problem in case of writers bringing her back with issue being solved if needed by either one of sisters becoming more responsible or some unow relative being introduced.

I also heard some rumours couple of years ago that Misty might appear in DP in some kind of tournament or so. But in my opinion, writers didn't see it necessary or important to give her a cameo in DP series.

Maybe your reffering to that interview with mr.Hidaka,he mentioned posibillity of coming back for tournament though didnt specified when.
 

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Okay, people. Can we move away from the Misty hypothesizing? While Misty is half the equation, this isn't the proper place to be talking about why she is or isn't on the show anymore.

Move on to the next topic.
 

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That was what I was trying to achieve with the topic... I remember some people saying they didn't post here often because of the hypothesizing.

Anyway, I'll do the same thing again, because my imagination is limited like that.

Stolen from the RocketShipping thread this time:
What is your favorite "dub only" hint? and, for contrast...
What is your favorite "non-dub-only" hint?
 

AvidPSFan

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That was what I was trying to achieve with the topic... I remember some people saying they didn't post here often because of the hypothesizing.

Anyway, I'll do the same thing again, because my imagination is limited like that.

Stolen from the RocketShipping thread this time:
What is your favorite "dub only" hint? and, for contrast...
What is your favorite "non-dub-only" hint?

Dub-only: Misty's Goodbye Song
Non-dub only: Naval Maneuvers (because I think it's the strongest Ash hint)
 

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What is your favorite "dub only" hint? and, for contrast...
What is your favorite "non-dub-only" hint?

Hmm...good topic (even if it is from another thread)

I think I'd have to agree with AvidPSFan about Misty's Goodbye song - for me, that is definitely the most 4Kids has contributed to pokeshipping.

I've got so many favourite non-dub hints, it's almost impossible to choose. I think my all-time favourite non-dub hint is in Get Along, Little Pokemon where Ash carries Misty into the cave and holds her close during the storm. For me, that just shows how much Ash does care for Misty, even if he's not so quick to admit it.
 

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What is your favorite "dub only" hint?
Nothing! Sorry but I must say that but I totally hate that Misty's goodbye song, it drives me crazy every time I hear that >.> It's so horriblw and ruined the whole episode and the sad moment. My brains don't work so among this there comes only Misty's "marry"-thing from Heartbreak of Brock to my mind, but I don't consider that as a hint. There are also some differences in dialogues between dub and original but nya, my answer is there is no favourites.

What is your favorite "non-dub-only" hint?
This is kinda difficult question, but my absolute favourite hints and moments are from Here comes the Squirtle squad and Tower of terror. In that Squirtle episode before Ash goes to get some medicine for Pikachu, Squirtle said that if he didn't come back by noon, they will kill Misty [or spray her hair purple, in the dub, lol]. And when Ash gets back to the cave, there was no one there after that was scenario of Misty falling which caused Ash to panic. That was very sweet to notice how much he really cared for her.
Tower of terror had very cute moments too. It was very interesting how Misty only heard Ash's voice when Ash teased Misty :)
 
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That was what I was trying to achieve with the topic... I remember some people saying they didn't post here often because of the hypothesizing.

Anyway, I'll do the same thing again, because my imagination is limited like that.

Stolen from the RocketShipping thread this time:
What is your favorite "dub only" hint? and, for contrast...
What is your favorite "non-dub-only" hint?

Dub only: If it counts, then Misty's Song off the 2ba Master album. It's not part of the show, but it's like a flat out confession. It definitely shows that the dub producers/writers/other important people thought they like each other, and I personally don't think they pulled it out of thin air. I also personally think that if they did pull it out of thin air, then whatever quality control liaison the Japanese producers had with the dubbers wouldn't have said "Sure, bro, you can modify our plot". But I can't prove that.

If that doesn't count, then the goodbye song I guess. There really aren't that many, despite what some people say. There's that, the Jirachi Wish Maker line, "We'll be married someday too" (even though I don't view it as a hint) and that's about it.

Non dub only: If you mean any hint that was in the original, then I'm partial to Rudy's last line in "Misty Meets Her Match":

Rudy: "I hope you know, you're a very lucky guy, Ash."
Ash: "Lucky? Whaddya mean?"
Rudy: "Haha, you'll see someday."

I saw it subbed and I believe the line was essentially the same. Blatant foreshadowing, absolutely blatant. Either that or the entire movie of Pokemon 2000. If you meant something that the dub took out, then "A Date With Delcatty".
 

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Hmm...good topic (even if it is from another thread)

I think I'd have to agree with AvidPSFan about Misty's Goodbye song - for me, that is definitely the most 4Kids has contributed to pokeshipping.

I've got so many favourite non-dub hints, it's almost impossible to choose. I think my all-time favourite non-dub hint is in Get Along, Little Pokemon where Ash carries Misty into the cave and holds her close during the storm. For me, that just shows how much Ash does care for Misty, even if he's not so quick to admit it.
This.:ksmile: So cute
P.S- Sorry i haven't been here for a while. So much homework!:bash:
 

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That was what I was trying to achieve with the topic... I remember some people saying they didn't post here often because of the hypothesizing.

Anyway, I'll do the same thing again, because my imagination is limited like that.

Stolen from the RocketShipping thread this time:
What is your favorite "dub only" hint? and, for contrast...
What is your favorite "non-dub-only" hint?
Dub only: Misty's Goodbye Song.

Non-dub only: a Date With Delcatty
 

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dub only: uhhh can't think of any so i'll just go with the consensus and say misty's song haha

Non-dub only: a Date With Delcatty
god I just loved how it showed she still thinks of him

normally I'd go with the orange season but my love of that season is well documented enough so went with something else haha
 

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Dub-only: Misty's Goodbye Song and Misty's Song. Also how Ash gives hints that he misses Misty at the ending of Pokemon: Jirachi Wish Maker (Movie)

Non-dub only: Naval Maneuvers; The whole Orange Season, The lure in DP.
 

Vioxx

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Dub-only: Misty's Goodbye Song and Misty's Song. Also how Ash gives hints that he misses Misty at the ending of Pokemon: Jirachi Wish Maker (Movie)

Yeah!exactly^

non-dub: MostLY in Orange Island episode,GCYL, Etc.
 

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Dub-only: Misty's Goodbye Song and Misty's Song. Also how Ash gives hints that he misses Misty at the ending of Pokemon: Jirachi Wish Maker (Movie)

Oh my god, I completely forgot about that one!

Can you believe that some people think he's not talking about Misty when he says that? I mean who else could it be?
 
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