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Recurring roles

* Scott Baio — as "Bob Loblaw"
* Michael Bartel — as a young "Michael Bluth"
* John Beard — as himself
* Ed Begley, Jr. — as "Stan Sitwell"
* Zach Braff — as "Phillip Litt"
* Michael Paul Chan — as "Judge Lionel Ping"
* Mo Collins — as "Starla"
* Rob Corddry — as "Moses Taylor"
* Jim Cramer — as himself
* Julia Louis-Dreyfus — as "Maggie Lizer"
* Bob Einstein — as "Larry Middleman"
* Jeff Garlin — as "Mort Meyers"
* Judy Greer — as "Kitty Sanchez"
* B.W. Gonzalez — as "Lupe"
* Stacey Grenrock-Woods — "Trisha Thoon"
* Charlie Hartsock — as Bluth Company employee "Ted"
* John Michael Higgins — as "Wayne Jarvis"
* Jay Johnston — as "Officer Taylor"
* Justin Lee — as the adopted Korean son "Annyong Bluth"
* James Lipton — as "Warden Stefan Gentles"
* Jane Lynch — as "Cindi Lightballoon"
* Bronwen Masters — as the nurse "Adelaide"
* Liza Minnelli — as "Lucille Austero"
* Jerry Minor — as "Officer Carter"
* Patrice O'neal — as "T-Bone"
* Sam Pancake — as "James Alan Spangler"
* Amy Poehler — as "Wife of G.O.B."
* David Reynolds — as "White Power Bill"
* Ian Roberts — as "Dr. Fishman (The Literal Doctor)"
* Steve Ryan — as "J. Walter Weatherman"
* Ben Stiller — as "Tony Wonder"
* Christine Taylor — as "Sally Sitwell"
* Charlize Theron — as "Rita Leeds"
* Dave Thomas — as "(Uncle) Trevor"
* Leonor Varela, Patricia Velasquez — as "Marta Estrella"
* Justin Grant Wade — as "Steve Holt"
* Carl Weathers — as himself
* Mae Whitman — as "Ann Veal"
* Henry Winkler — as "Barry Zuckerkorn"
* Malik Yoba — as Bounty Hunter/Party Planner "Ice"
* Abraham Higginbotham — as Gary the Office Hand


Guest appearances

* Dave Attell — as himself in "Motherboy XXX"
* Justine Bateman — as "Nellie" in "Family Ties"
* Brian Baumgartner — as the gun store owner in "Burning Love"
* Richard Belzer — as himself in "S.O.B.s" and as Detective John Munch in "Exit Strategy"
* Dan Castellaneta — as "Dr. Frank Stein" in "Sword of Destiny"
* Marc Cherry — as himself in "Righteous Brothers" (Cameo)
* Gary Cole — as Richard Shaw in "Exit Strategy"
* Bud Cort — as himself in "Fakin' It"
* Heather Graham — as "Beth Baerly" in "Shock and Aww"
* Harry Hamlin — as himself in "For British Eyes Only"
* Ed Helms — as "James" in "The One Where Michael Leaves"
* Michael Hitchcock — as Ira Gilligan in "Best Man for the Gob"
* Clint Howard — as "Johnny Bark" in "Key Decisions"
* Ron Howard — as himself in "Development Arrested" (cameo)
* William Hung — as himself in "Fakin' It"
* Thomas Jane — as himself in "The One Where They Build a House"
* Jamie Kennedy — as himself in "Notapusy"
* John Larroquette — as himself in "S.O.B.s"
* Kevin McDonald — as "Detective Steudler" in "Not Without My Daughter"
* Ron Michaelson — as himself in "The Immaculate Election"
* Martin Mull — as "Gene Parmesan" in "¡Amigos!"
* Frankie Muniz — as himself in "Mr. F"
* Bob Odenkirk — as "Dr. Gunty" in "Visiting Ours"
* Eduardo Palomo — as himself in "Key Decisions", as the host of the Premios Desi.
* Phil Proctor — as "Reverend Robert Patterson" in "Notapusy"
* Judge Reinhold — as himself in "Fakin' It"
* Andy Richter — as himself and his four fictional quintuplet brothers in "S.O.B.s"
* Rob Riggle — as "Congressman John Van Huesen" in "Fakin' It"
* Craig Robinson — as a security guard in "Switch Hitter"
* Andy Samberg — as a stage manager in "The Righteous Brothers"
* Martin Short — as "Uncle Jack" in "Ready, Aim, Marry Me"
* J.K. Simmons — as "General Anderson" in "Switch Hitter"
* Richard Simmons — as himself in "Bringing Up Buster"
* Ione Skye — as "Mrs. Veal" in "Meat the Veals"
* Alan Tudyk — as "Pastor Veal" in "Meat the Veals"
* Dick Van Patten — as "Cal Cul
 
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Hoffman is more reliable, but he's better at getting the job done than understanding what he's doing is about. He's learned to "anticipate the human mind", which Amanda failed miserably. But he probably has no clue what he's doing, even though he built the Fatal Five trap, he just followed John's instructions to make it work, and he did a pretty good job, but whether or not he cared or understood what exactly he was doing, that's another matter. But Jigsaw didn't expect him to, he more seemed to NOT expect Hoffman to know, but to have him figure out himself later. "It may be unclear now, but I'm sure the pieces will fit together, they are a part of something greater".
But it's questionable whether Hoffman understands the "rehabilitation" method. Amanda did, no question, but that's all she's good for. Hoffman's forte is the Jigsaw-style chain reactions.

The true irony is that we were worried after hearing about Seth's trap being rigged that Hoffman would have the same unoriginal problem Amanda had with rigging traps. Turns out he's the opposite, Hoffman's all about building traps that are extra kosher, and work both ways. Now he just needs to build ones that work AND have a point rather than be a game for his entertainment.

So yes, Hoffman seems to understand more. Younger John Kramer may have been like Amanda which is why he said she was closest to a connection, but Hoffman is more deserving of the torch.

Actually the answer can be put in simpler terms: Amanda failed. Hoffman PASSED! At least for now. It's been made clear that he knows now how to "do what Jigsaw does", and served his purpose for 'rehabilitation' after what he did to Seth.

We used to use the word "apprentice" a lot, remember? Hoffman is more "apprentice" material definitely.

Hoffman is no Jigsaw, but he's the closest John's ever gonna have to worthy. By the end of Saw V you could say that John is looking up from his grave pleased with Hoffman's transformation.

Obviously not though if he's "untested" in his eyes and needs to be for whatever reason. And no matter how close he comes, he'll probably end up being some kind of pawn.

His death (yes, he WILL be dead by the time the franchise is over, they're not gonna keep him alive in the closing of the franchise) better be something significant and memorable and not something lame like getting shot.
 
"Brain Damage"

[Doctor] Scalpel
[Nurse] Here
[Doctor] Sponge
[Nurse] Here
[Doctor] Wait.. he's convulsing, he's convulsing!
[Nurse] Ah!
[Doctor] We're gonna have to shock him!
[Nurse] Oh my! Oh my God!
[Doctor] We're gonna have to shock him!
[Nurse] Oh my God!

[Eminem]
These are the results of a thousand electric volts
A neck with bolts, "Nurse we're losin him, check the pulse!"
A kid who refused to respect adults
Wore spectacles with taped frames and a freckled nose
A corny lookin white boy, scrawny and always ornery
Cause I was always sick of brawny bullies pickin on me
And I might snap, one day just like that
I decided to strike back and flatten every tire on the bike rack
(Whosssssh) My first day in junior high, this kid said,
"It's you and I, three o'clock sharp this afternoon you die"
I looked at my watch it was one twenty
"I already gave you my lunch money what more do you want from me?!?"
He said, "Don't try to run from me, you'll just make it worse..."
My palms were sweaty, and I started to shake at first
Something told me, "Try to fake a stomach ache it works"
I screamed, "Owww! My appendix feels like they could burst!
Teacher, teacher, quick I need a naked nurse!"
[N] "What's the matter?"
[E] "I don't know, my leg, it hurts!"
[N] "Leg?!? I thought you said it was your tummy?!?"
[E] "Oh, I mean it is, but I also got a bum knee!"
[N] "Mr. Mathers, the fun and games are over.
And just for that stunt, you're gonna get some extra homework."
[E] "But don't you wanna give me after school detention?"
[N] "Nah, that bully wants to beat your ass and I'ma let him."

[Chorus: repeat 2X]

Brain damage, ever since the day I was born
Drugs is what they used to say I was on
They say I never knew which way I was goin
But everywhere I go they keep playin my song

[Eminem]
Brain damage..
Way before my baby daughter Hailey
I was harassed daily by this fat kid named D'Angelo Bailey
An eighth grader who acted obnoxious, cause his father boxes
so everyday he'd shove me in the lockers
One day he came in the bathroom while I was pissin
And had me in the position to beat me into submission
He banged my head against the urinal til he broke my nose,
Soaked my clothes in blood, grabbed me and choked my throat
I tried to plead and tell him, "We shouldn't beef"
But he just wouldn't leave, he kept chokin me and I couldn't breathe
He looked at me and said, "You gonna die honkey!"
The principal walked in (What's going on in here?)
and started helpin him stomp me
I made them think they beat me to death
Holdin my breath for like five minutes before they finally left
Then I got up and ran to the janitor's storage booth
Kicked the door hinge loose and ripped out the four inch screws
Grabbed some sharp objects, brooms, and foreign tools
"This is for every time you took my orange juice,
or stole my seat in the lunchroom and drank my chocolate milk.
Every time you tipped my tray and it dropped and spilt.
I'm gettin you back bully! Now once and for good."
I cocked the broomstick back and swung hard as I could
and beat him over the head with it til I broke the wood
Knocked him down, stood on his chest with one foot..
.. Made it home, later that same day
Started reading a comic, and suddenly everything became gray
I couldn't even see what I was tryin to read
I went deaf, and my left ear started to bleed
My mother started screamin, "What are you on, drugs?!?
Look at you, you're gettin blood all over my rug!" (Sorry!)
She beat me over the head with the remote control
opened a hole, and my whole brain fell out of my skull
I picked it up and screamed, "Look bitch, what have you done?!?"
[M] "Oh my God, I'm sorry son"
[E] "Shut up you cunt!" I said, "Fuck it!"
Took it and stuck it back up in my head
then I sewed it shut and put a couple of screws in my neck

[Chorus]

[Eminem]
Brain damage..
It's brain damage..
I got brain damage..
It's brain damage..
It's probably brain damage..
It's brain damage..
Brain damage..
I got brain damage..
 
I was eating dinner and my mom and aunt were talking to me.

Aunt Di: Now after dinner, you're going to walk the dog. And I don't want to hear any excuses. I don't want to hear you have an illness, a headache, a [private part]-ache...

Mom: That you're tired, that your teeth hurt, that your head hurts, that you can't see the color brown...

Me: *nearly chokes on cheeseburger*

It took me like 10 minutes to stop laughing. :lol:
 
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