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Which Enterprise was NX-01? I think it might've been the first one, but there were too many Enterprises to be sure.No. Bad. F-
NX-01 is the only non-UFP Enterprise that was featured on the show.Which Enterprise was NX-01? I think it might've been the first one, but there were too many Enterprises to be sure.
I don't watch anything Kelvin timeline related... Or the latest two shows... but it's always fun to watch the original movies I always point to First Contact as the way movies should be made.Talking about Star Trek I've been working through re-watching all the Star Trek movies in order for the last week and a half, watched Nemesis last night and just have the 3 Kelvin Timeline movies left now.
I don't mind the Kelvin movies so much as they're in a different universe but I have no interest in the new shows either as I don't think they are Star Trek shows, the last true Star Trek show was Enterprise.I don't watch anything Kelvin timeline related... Or the latest two shows... but it's always fun to watch the original movies I always point to First Contact as the way movies should be made.
The best Enterprises are, and will always be, the original NCC-1701 retrofit (Star Trek I - Star Trek III), and the NCC-1701E. Odd that the movie Enterprises are the best Enterprises, but that’s just how it goes, I suppose.F-- to you wanting to get rid of the best enterprise! Compared to the oil tankers in space.
I got about...5 episodes, I think... into Discovery and really hated it. I can't even touch Picard, but I've heard bad things about it.I don't mind the Kelvin movies so much as they're in a different universe but I have no interest in the new shows either as I don't think they are Star Trek shows, the last true Star Trek show was Enterprise.
Yeah First Contact was a great movie, The Wrath of Khan, The Voyage Home and The Undiscovered Contry are great movies too.
One out of two, I guess. The E is a good ship.The best Enterprises are, and will always be, the original NCC-1701 retrofit (Star Trek I - Star Trek III), and the NCC-1701E. Odd that the movie Enterprises are the best Enterprises, but that’s just how it goes, I suppose.
See, I can understand why you feel that way about the Constitution class from the TV series, but the retrofit is much sleeker.I referred to it as an oil tanker in space.
I will grant that it's better... But compare it to the E, the Defiant, Voyager and NX-01. It's still quite bulky and not quite as streamlined as the other ships. Not as bad as the Galaxy though.See, I can understand why you feel that way about the Constitution class from the TV series, but the retrofit is much sleeker.
It’s not supposed to be. There were supposed to be technical limitations that got surpassed sometime between the Kirk era and the Picard era. It’s a very well designed ship for its era, and one of the better designed Starfleet ships in general.I will grant that it's better... But compare it to the E, the Defiant, Voyager and NX-01. It's still quite bulky and not quite as streamlined as the other ships. Not as bad as the Galaxy though.
For the Galaxy class ships, I think you’re forgetting. Galaxy class ships are designed for exploration, not war. They’re also designed to take along family and civilians. Starfleet is not a military organization. The MACOs from Enterprise were military, but Starfleet’s primary goal is peaceful exploration and scientific discovery. As such, the Galaxy class is going to be a little bulky and look a little clunky. That’s why, when the Federation needed a more streamlined and military ship, they came up with the Defiant class and the Sovereign class. Both of those ships were designed with war in mind.In the real world, I'm assuming the bulkiness of the original and the Galaxy has to do with the technical limitations of the time or something, but in-universe... Come on Starfleet... reassign their designers to waste disposal!
I just do not agree. I really do not like either of those shipsIt’s not supposed to be. There were supposed to be technical limitations that got surpassed sometime between the Kirk era and the Picard era. It’s a very well designed ship for its era, and one of the better designed Starfleet ships in general..
The intrepid class wasn't designed for war either. Sure, it can kick behind if it needs to, but it's a long-range science and exploration vessel... And it's beautiful. It's sleek, It's elegant, it's the complete opposite of the Galaxy Class..For the Galaxy class ships, I think you’re forgetting. Galaxy class ships are designed for exploration, not war. They’re also designed to take along family and civilians. Starfleet is not a military organization. The MACOs from Enterprise were military, but Starfleet’s primary goal is peaceful exploration and scientific discovery. As such, the Galaxy class is going to be a little bulky and look a little clunky. That’s why, when the Federation needed a more streamlined and military ship, they came up with the Defiant class and the Sovereign class. Both of those ships were designed with war in mind.
I mean, at the end of the day, then, it's just a matter of preference. I can't argue with that.I just do not agree. I really do not like either of those ships
1. The Intrepid class was also a) designed much later than the Galaxy class, so, again, technological advantages were made, and b) was also not meant to transport Starfleet officers and their families.The intrepid class wasn't designed for war either. Sure, it can kick behind if it needs to, but it's a long-range science and exploration vessel... And it's beautiful. It's sleek, It's elegant, it's the complete opposite of the Galaxy Class..
There's also the nova class, which is a short-range science vessel. And I would argue the Steam Runner class, but you'd probably say its a warship... So okay.
Also worth pointing out is that officially, the Enterprise E was a ship of exploration too. To quote Major Kira, Starfleet "doesn't believe in warships"... and I believe the Defiant was one exception to that rule. The E was even seen performing exploration mission functions in... Was it Nemesis?