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You could become anything that you set your mind to. Except for politicians and lawyers. Those will not be necessary in the new world.
Will Walmarts be necessary?
Are Presidents of Walmarts politicians?
 
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Will Walmarts be necessary?
Are Presidents of Walmarts politicians?
There will always be a need for stores, as people will require supplies.
Company presidents are not politicians, they are business people. Industry is always required.
 
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(In which I take this "no emotion" way to seriously.)

Here's a thought: what's to make us care about achieving our goals if not for emotions? Logic? Okay, sure. Logic dictates more income is better, I suppose, so as long as the goals you plan to achieve will ultimately increase your income, I'll be that. What's to keep us from murdering people who stand above us? Morals? Those don't exist without emotions. Okay, sure, murder being bad is an emotional thought, until we realize that the fact that with amount it happens presently, it doesn't really do much to shrink the population- with the amount it would probably happen if nobody had emotions to keep themselves from doing so, what happens to the human population when people keep killing their bosses in cold blood in order to heighten themselves? And if for whatever reason that doesn't matter, what happens to the economy when that happens? Just because people lack emotions doesn't mean they're always going to extend their logic processes out that far.

Okay, say there's a law that makes that illegal and the logic most people follow says following the law is safer long term, what about the entire industries that are made completely obselete when people don't have emotions? Television, fiction writing, music (fiction and music require emotion, or you just don't care) possibly restaurants (costs less to buy food from a store and cook it yourself, and logic dictates you live longer if you eat healthier). Unemployment rates will shoot up, and that'll increase poverty, and there simply might not be enough jobs to solve this.
 
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Here's a thought: what's to make us care about achieving our goals if not for emotions? Logic? Okay, sure. Logic dictates more income is better, I suppose, so as long as the goals you plan to achieve will ultimately increase your income, I'll be that. What's to keep us from murdering people who stand above us? Morals? Those don't exist without emotions. Okay, sure, murder being bad is an emotional thought, until we realize that the fact that with amount it happens presently, it doesn't really do much to shrink the population- with the amount it would probably happen if nobody had emotions to keep themselves from doing so, what happens to the human population when people keep killing their bosses in cold blood in order to heighten themselves? And if for whatever reason that doesn't matter, what happens to the economy when that happens? Just because people lack emotions doesn't mean they're always going to extend their logic processes out that far.

Okay, say there's a law that makes that illegal and the logic most people follow says following the law is safer long term, what about the entire industries that are made completely obselete when people don't have emotions? Television, fiction writing, music (fiction and music require emotion, or you just don't care) possibly restaurants (costs less to buy food from a store and cook it yourself, and logic dictates you live longer if you eat healthier). Unemployment rates will shoot up, and that'll increase poverty.
Nice try, but I found the Rickroll. I rolled a 20 on perception
 
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(In which I take this "no emotion" way to seriously.)

Here's a thought: what's to make us care about achieving our goals if not for emotions? Logic? Okay, sure. Logic dictates more income is better, I suppose, so as long as the goals you plan to achieve will ultimately increase your income, I'll be that. What's to keep us from murdering people who stand above us? Morals? Those don't exist without emotions. Okay, sure, murder being bad is an emotional thought, until we realize that the fact that with amount it happens presently, it doesn't really do much to shrink the population- with the amount it would probably happen if nobody had emotions to keep themselves from doing so, what happens to the human population when people keep killing their bosses in cold blood in order to heighten themselves? And if for whatever reason that doesn't matter, what happens to the economy when that happens? Just because people lack emotions doesn't mean they're always going to extend their logic processes out that far.

Okay, say there's a law that makes that illegal and the logic most people follow says following the law is safer long term, what about the entire industries that are made completely obselete when people don't have emotions? Television, fiction writing, music (fiction and music require emotion, or you just don't care) possibly restaurants (costs less to buy food from a store and cook it yourself, and logic dictates you live longer if you eat healthier). Unemployment rates will shoot up, and that'll increase poverty, and there simply might not be enough jobs to solve this.
You are assuming a society where currency is still necessary. In a world of pure logic, currency becomes irrelevant. People will work together to accomplish goals for the species.
We will not be distracted by pointless trivialities, such as sports or movies. Instead, we can focus on advancing ourselves as a species, and commit ourselves to accomplishing tasks that were previously considered impossible.
 
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You are assuming a society where currency is still necessary. In a world of pure logic, currency becomes irrelevant. People will work together to accomplish goals for the species.
We will not be distracted by pointless trivialities, such as sports or movies. Instead, we can focus on advancing ourselves as a species, and commit ourselves to accomplishing tasks that were previously considered impossible.
Okay, sure. There are some pretty big issues with this, too. (Mainly issues that might've existed assuming currency but I'd just woke up a mn d hadn't thought of them.)

What happens in case of a food shortage? Does the "grand leader" of the new universe decide who's valuable enough to advancing the species to get food, and then let everyone who's not just... starve to death? Do you gather up the people deemed "not valuable enough" and kill them in cold blood? Sure, our world hasn't had a great record when it comes to dealing with food shortages either, but I say with pretty god confidence if one happened right now, that is not how we'd deal with it. (And no, "there won't be a food shortage" is not a valid answer. Predicting every issue in a newly rewritten universe is impossible.)

What people who suffer from disabilities that prevent them from working? You don't expect me to believe that a world of pure logic is one that allows individuals deemed to have absolutely no value to advancing the species to live? I don't believe that, sorry. I believe that even if you're intention would be for it to be, people without emotions would see them as a waste of space, and as risking passing their disabilities on to the next generation.

Enivornmental issues, and overpopulation? Until we can relocate people off Earth (which we wouldn't be able to do for a while probably, even more focused on achieving the allegedly impossible), there's not a great solution- spreading people out across the land, would decrease the population density in urban areas, so people aren't packed ridiculously close together, but it would just increase pollution, you know, everywhere else? So what? I feel like pure cold logic will probably bring us to a pretty similar solution to food shortages.

And moving away from the "who's more valuable to advancing the species" thing- even if humans are advanced as a species, what about domesticated animals (specifically ones kept as pets, since farms would stil exist)? A lot of them rely on humans to survive, and humans only care because of emotions. Without emotions, I can't say I know for sure what would happen to creatures such as cats and dogs, but I can't say I find it likely humans would go out of our way to keep them alive.

Humans don't always have the most accurate logic, even without factoring emotions. People who tend to make decisions with emotions without a whole lot of reliance on logic... would probably be generally worse at decision-making without emotions to rely on.

I'd write more but I don't feel like it and I'm on my phone so it a very long time to type this.
 
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Okay, sure. There are some pretty big issues with this, too. (Mainly issues that might've existed assuming currency but I'd just woke up a mn d hadn't thought of them.)

What happens in case of a food shortage? Does the "grand leader" of the new universe decide who's valuable enough to advancing the species to get food, and then let everyone who's not just... starve to death? Do you gather up the people deemed "not valuable enough" and kill them in cold blood? Sure, our world hasn't had a great record when it comes to dealing with food shortages either, but I say with pretty god confidence if one happened right now, that is not how we'd deal with it. (And no, "there won't be a food shortage" is not a valid answer. Predicting every issue in a newly rewritten universe is impossible.)

What people who suffer from disabilities that prevent them from working? You don't expect me to believe that a world of pure logic is one that allows individuals deemed to have absolutely no value to advancing the species to live? I don't believe that, sorry. I believe that even if you're intention would be for it to be, people without emotions would see them as a waste of space, and as risking passing their disabilities on to the next generation.

Enivornmental issues, and overpopulation? Until we can relocate people off Earth (which we wouldn't be able to do for a while probably, even more focused on achieving the allegedly impossible), there's not a great solution- spreading people out across the land, would decrease the population density in urban areas, so people aren't packed ridiculously close together, but it would just increase pollution, you know, everywhere else? So what? I feel like pure cold logic will probably bring us to a pretty similar solution to food shortages.

And moving away from the "who's more valuable to advancing the species" thing- even if humans are advanced as a species, what about domesticated animals (specifically ones kept as pets, since farms would stil exist)? A lot of them rely on humans to survive, and humans only care because of emotions. Without emotions, I can't say I know for sure what would happen to creatures such as cats and dogs, but I can't say I find it likely humans would go out of our way to keep them alive.

Humans don't always have the most accurate logic, even without factoring emotions. People who tend to make decisions with emotions without a whole lot of reliance on logic... would probably be generally worse at decision-making without emotions to rely on.

I'd write more but I don't feel like it and I'm on my phone so it a very long time to type this.
It a world of my own creating, there will be no food shortage, and there will be no overpopulation. With no spirit and only logic guiding decisions, no species will live beyond its means.
As for natural disasters, given my absolute control over the new universe, those will not exist.
As far as accidents, those will happen, and people will be injured. There will be medical care for those who are injured.
A society based solely on logic and rationality solves most problems of the universe.
I can resolve the rest while I am creating the universe.
There is no downside here.
 
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Aether FUNdation? Whose absurd idea was this? They should be fired.
 
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I think this place needs to be rumbled...
 
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Hmmmmm...the influence of the Team Rainbow Rocket...it still seems to be permeating in this place.
I must investigate.
 
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