Rewriting battles

[R1ke]

If you could rewrite one battle in the anime, what would it be? How would you change it? This can include changing the pokemon used, strategies implemented or even the outcome if you want.

I'd go with Ash vs Hapu, where it should've been Torracat vs Mudsdale instead. Torracat hadn't participated in a grand trial before and was pretty underused altogether. It literally learnt fire blast in the prior episode as well, which could've worked around stamina. If they really wanted to make him use a Z-move, then move episode 125 to take place sometime before the poni island arc.

 

[Rockapheller]

I would say Ash vs Hapu as well, the most unoriginal battle in the anime history in my book. It is just repeating Ash's first gym battle. Ash should have not decided to use Pikachu against a Ground-type specialist in the first place. Changin the Pokémon he uses would make all the differences anyway.

 

[ii kanji]

If I could rewrite one battle in the anime, it would be Musashi vs Kojiro in the Alola League.

The worst aspect of this battle was the characterisation, so that's what I'd concentrate on fixing. First thing's first, I would have allowed Nyasu to actually watch their match as opposed to selling doughnuts from the van. I'd also have had Sonansu not fight and instead join Nyasu in the stands. Yeah, he's Musashi's Pokemon but I think he'd just say 'Nah, I'm not fighting Kojiro or this baby sibling of mine, sort yourself out Musashi.' Musashi would want to win, but she wouldn't be a bitch and tell Kojiro to throw in the towel for her, she'd want to win fair and square. Kojiro likewise would be fired up by his dream of wanting to take on his idol, Royal Mask.

This leaves a battle between Hidoide, natch, and Mimikyu. This would offer a fantastic opportunity to prove how Mimikyu has matured over the course of the series and doesn't mind fighting for Musashi even when the opponent isn't Pikachu (the fact that they started and then dropped that development part-way through is one of my pet peeves with the series).

Mimikyu would naturally have the edge in the battle, but Hidoide (as in the actual battle) really wants to win due to her strong love towards Kojiro, and Kojiro himself has more motivation to win. It would be narratively awesome if they were both to use Z-moves. For example, Mimikyu might be in a really strong position and Musashi (who naturally has the Z-ring on her to start off with) in her overconfidence has it do its hug of death as a finisher, but in doing Hidoide poisons it from inside, and thereby Mimi gets vulnerable. Musashi reluctantly, exasperatedly, but fairly chucks the Z-ring to Kojiro and eventually he finishes the match off with Black Hole Eclipse and Musashi, knowing she's going to lose, goes down smiling. She tells him to win the League for all of their sakes .etc and the rest is history.

*sigh*

 

[Daren]

The battles I'd change the outcome of would require changing more than just that battle, so I went with something simple: change the Johoto league battle with Gary to put Pikachu in and spread the wins out more instead of it being mostly Charizard and Snorlax.

 

[Eitarou]

I would say Ash vs Hapu as well, the most unoriginal battle in the anime history in my book. It is just repeating Ash's first gym battle. Ash should have not decided to use Pikachu against a Ground-type specialist in the first place. Changin the Pokémon he uses would make all the differences anyway.

Can people stop claiming it's copy/referencing the first Gym battle when he also did a similar thing against Pryce. Sorry, but this particular complaint about that battle always bugged me.

 

[GrookeyFan77]

Rowlet vs Decidueye. I Will Make Rowlet Win Without Sleeping

 

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

Ash vs. Elesa. I'd make an Eelektrik her strongest Pokemon instead of a Tynamo that only knew Tackle. I'd also have Elesa use Volt Switch.

 

[Rockapheller]

Can people stop claiming it's copy/referencing the first Gym battle when he also did a similar thing against Pryce. Sorry, but this particular complaint about that battle always bugged me.

I am sorry if you felt offended by that for whatever reason, but no, they can't stop claiming it is a copy of the first Gym battle, because it still is. Your example only worsens the situation, doesn't justify as you hope it would. I don't see why I should keep my mouth shut because what I criticize about a battle may bug other people if the opinion is justified.

I still don't think it is the same as what happens with Brock's or Hapu's battles, but even if your example was accurate...

 

[prog rocker]

Ash vs Ritchie

In case he needed to lose, I would make Ash lose fair and square. Also, no more nonsensical rules that won't apply in the next leagues.

 

[Ghost Diplocaulus]

I already made a rewrite of Ash's disastrous Unova League sendoff, so I'll just repost it here:

Spoiler

First, Cameron's character gets a bit of a rewrite in that he's still incredibly goofy and clueless at everything, but when it comes to Pokemon battles, he's actually something of a genius. This obviously means that he doesn't forget to bring a full team of six and we get a proper match, and would also better explain and justify him having a perfectly obedient Hydreigon under his command.

Next, I would still keep Hydreigon beating Ash's Boldore and Oshawott in a row, since we do need to establish them as a threat. The only real change here is that I would have Ash's Oshawott know Ice Beam for this fight in place of Tackle, serving the twofold purpose of justifying Ash sending out Oshawott against a freaking pseudo-legendary AND making Hydreigon look even more tough for withstanding an opponent with a super-effective move. This of course would come with the caveat that both Boldore and Oshawott get one victory each in a previous match that the audience gets to see. After Boldore and Oshawott are beaten, Ash sends out Pignite and he still beats Hydreigon the same way he did in canon, with a super-effective Brick Break.

After Hydreigon is knocked out, Cameron sends out Swanna instead of Ferrothorn to battle Pignite, and wins easily due to the dual type advantage. Ash sends out Pikachu who beats Swanna easily in turn, and now Ferrothorn comes out to battle Pikachu. Pikachu and Ferrothorn trade blows for a bit and Ash quickly learns that Quick Attack and Iron Tail barely even phase Ferrothorn, who also has a counter for Electric attacks by blocking them with their own Thunderbolt as a sort of callback to Tyson's Meowth doing the same at the Hoenn League. This causes Ash to withdraw Pikachu and send out Unfezant in his place, as she's the only one of his remaining Pokemon that has a chance at piercing through Ferrothorn's defenses. Unfezant does take serious damage from Ferrothorn's Thunderbolt, but manages to finally emerge victorious thanks to landing several well-placed critical Aerial Aces and Air Cutters courtesy of Super Luck.

Cameron sends out Samurott next, and she and Unfezant trade blows, but ultimately the fully evolved Water Starter proves far too powerful and Unfezant goes down. Now Ash sends in Pikachu for an encore performance, and this battle is far longer than the match against Swanna, with Pikachu taking some serious damage from Samurott's attacks. The electric mouse eventually wins out by using the same Iron Tail+Electro Ball combo he used to defeat Trip's Serperior. Seeing how exhausted Pikachu is, Ash once again recalls him so he can rest up a bit.

Ash sends out Snivy next while Cameron goes with his Watchog. This battle is over fairly quickly with Snivy winning without even needing to resort to Attract. Now Cameron finally sends out his final Pokemon Riolu and from here on out the battle plays out like in canon: Snivy has the upper hand against Riolu at first but then Riolu evolves and turns the tables to defeat Snivy. Pikachu is then sent out to battle the newly evolved Lucario but winds up losing due to having racked up more damage across several previous battles when compared to Lucario.

And there you have it. How I would have written the match between Ash and Cameron, solving what I thought were the biggest annoyances of it: Cameron is an actually competent (albeit goofy when it comes to non-Pokemon Battling related things) battler rather than just a barely-functional dunce who lady luck overwhelmingly favors, the battle has both opponents use a full team, and more of Ash's Pokemon get to go out in a blaze of glory instead of giving all of it to the overused Pikachu and Pignite.

There are plenty other battles that need a redo, though. And I'm gonna go over a lot of them, so brace yourselves because I'm about to dump an entire doorstopper on you all...

Spoiler

First up is Ash vs Elesa, aka worst Gym Battle of all time. First change here is that I'd make it so Ash doesn't inexplicably empty his entire party and bring just Palpitoad (seriously, what the hell was that, the instant he ran out of the Gym to get more Pokemon I would have disqualified on the spot. Elesa's downright saintly for letting him continue after such a disgraceful display), nor does he generally act like an idiot. I would also change Elesa's team roster up a bit for reasons I'll detail below:

• 1st and 2nd Matches: Zebstrika vs Palpitoad and Emolga vs Palpitoad remain unchanged as I thought they were the only okay battles in this Gym.
• 3rd Match: Emolga vs Roggenrola- Roggenrola wins. That's right, Ash brings out a Pokemon with a type advantage here.
• 4th Match: Eelektrik vs Roggenrola- Eelekrtik wins. I'll be honest, I didn't like that Elesa's ace Pokemon was a Tynamo. Like, strong unevolved Pokemon are perfectly fine by me, but Tynamo is hard to take seriously due to it literally only being able to learn four attacks, and Elesa's is even implied to not know anything besides Tackle, which I found to be... pretty underwhelming to say the least, so I decided she'd use an Eelektrik instead. That said, that still isn't her ace, because the fight isn't over.
• 5th Match: Eelektrik vs Snivy- Snivy wins. Yep, this battle is going to be a 4v4 because I don't want to completely remove Snivy, as doing so would mean she'd only participate in one Gym (Clay's) and I didn't want to reduce her contribution to the Gym challenge, so I let Snivy get a win against Elesa's Eelektrik here. Snivy will try to use Attract to no success here, since Eelektrik will turn out to be female, but Snivy will pull through the win regardless.
• 6th Match: Joltik vs Snivy- Joltik wins. As much as I didn't like Tynamo being Elesa's ace, the idea of a small unevolved Electric-type being a Gym Leader's strongest Pokemon isn't a bad one in theory, imo, it just needs to be something more believably versatile. So I decided that Elesa's ace would be a Joltik in my version of the fight.
• 7th Match Joltik vs Pikachu- Pikachu wins. I think this would be an interesting challenge for Pikachu to face, because I don't think Pika's ever had to fight an opponent smaller than him, as everything he's fought is either his size or bigger, so Pikachu having to deal with a nimble opponent whose small size makes them hard to hit is something he's never really had to deal with and I imagine it'd be a tough fight: Ash's improvisation skills would be pushed a lot to make this win happen, but he and Pikachu would pull through, obviously.

Spoiler

Now we move to the last Unova Gym Battle of Ash vs Roxie. Honestly, this should have been either a 3v3 or a full battle, because Ash using twice the amount of Pokemon and still struggling to win was honestly not a good look for him. To complete Roxie's team, I'd give her a Muk, a Drapion, and a Crobat. Ash still uses the same team he used in canon. And now for the battle results:

• 1st Match: Koffing vs Boldore- Koffing wins. This wouldn't differ much from canon. Gyro Ball is big jerk.
• 2nd Match: Koffing vs Leavanny- Leavanny wins. I actually do like how Leavanny beat Koffing in canon, so I'm gonna keep it as is.
• 3rd Match: Crobat vs Leavanny- Crobat wins. Double type advantage is big jerk.
• 4th Match: Crobat vs Unfezant- Unfezant wins. I know Unfezant's first, last and only Gym win already was against another Flying-type, but I just really like aerial battles, okay? Don't judge.
• 5th Match: Drapion vs Unfezant- Drapion wins. Think Paul's Drapion vs Ash's Staraptor back in Sinnoh and you get the idea of what happens here. Though I don't think Roxie would be anywhere near as brutal.
• 6th Match: Drapion vs Palpitoad- Palpitoad wins. Probably through a combination of Supersonic to disorient Drapion and then finishing them off with super effective STAB Mud Shot.
• 7th Match: Scolipede vs Palpitoad- Draw. Scolipede would wear down Palpitoad with Toxic, but the latter's hard-hitting moves would also prove too much, so this would be the result.
• 8th Match: Muk vs Pignite- Pignite wins. It's hard at first due to Muk's liquid body, but Ash would quickly learn that Flamethrower and Fire Pledge do deal damage, so he just has to use those moves creatively.
• 9th Match: Garbodor vs Pignite- Garbodor wins. I'm not gonna let the Gym Leader's ace go down without at least one win. The fight is probably identical to canon, honestly.
• 10th Match: Garbodor vs Pikachu- Pikachu wins. Also identical to canon... you know what, outside of the bizarre decision of making it a 3v6, the battle itself is actually pretty okay... but yeah, it was still dumb to make it 3v6 and I stand by that.

Spoiler

Next up is Ash vs Hapu, which a lot of you have already mentioned. I do want to make the addendum that the problem with that battle wasn't just that Pikachu beat Mudsdale with a callback to a Gym win that is already controversial and used archaic methods of victory due to early installment weirdness that honestly had zero business being referenced, but because it's honestly disappointing that Ash's last Kahuna battle is a 1v1 where he uses only Pikachu. I think this battle should have been a 4v4 so Ash could use his then-whole team. I would also make Torracat the star player here because I thought it was dumb how he learned Fire Blast an episode prior only for him to have to wait until the League to show it off. This battle was one of the worst instances of Pika-hogging. The matches would go as follows:

• 1st Match: Gastrodon vs Rowlet- Rowlet wins. Hapu's Gastrodon would know Ice Beam, so it wouldn't be as clean and easy a win for Rowlet as the type matchups might suggest, but it'd still be a victory for the round birb.
• 2nd Match: Flygon vs Rowlet- Flygon wins. Flygon's Levitate mitigates Rowlet's aerial advantage, and being part Dragon nullifies the weakness to Grass. These traits combined with Rowlet having already taken heavy damage from Gastrodon's Ice Beam means this battle's over very quickly.
• 3rd Match: Flygon vs Lycanroc- Lycanroc wins. A tough fight due to Lycanroc being at a type disadvantage, but the doggo ultimately wins by using Counter.
• 4th Match: Golurk vs Lycanroc- Golurk wins. Lycanroc does manage to deal heavy damage to Golurk before succumbing, but having already withstood damage from the battle against Flygon combined with this still being a fight against a specialist whose type is super-effective against Rock means Lycanroc ultimately loses after a hard fight.
• 5th Match: Golurk vs Pikachu- Pikachu wins. payback for being one-shotted by High Horsepower the first time Ash and Hapu met.
• 6th Match: Mudsdale vs Pikachu- Mudsdale wins. I thought it was pretty stupid that Pikachu was able to live through so many of Mudsdale's super-effective STAB attacks (including a freaking Tectonic Rage) without fainting and then win by using outdated Kanto series logic. Instead Pikachu takes and L.
• 7th Match: Mudsdale vs Torracat- Torracat wins. Yeah, gonna make Torracat the star because the kitty never got to participate in a single Kahuna battle. Torracat's victory is actually easier to justify because Fire Fang could burn Mudsdale and cut their Attack stat in half (thereby making Torracat surviving a Tectonic Rage more believable compared to Pikachu doing it), while Fire Blast ignores Stamina's Defense boosts due to being a Special Attack.

Spoiler

Finally, Ash vs Hau at the Alola League. Now for this one I actually decided to change not just the battle itself, but Rowlet's character arc altogether. First, to make the fight a lot more meaningful, I'd make it so that Rowlet actually lost twice to Decidueye before when they were a Dartrix to better justify Rowlet's determination to win. And the reason for Rowlet's loss at the last rematch despite getting Bloom Doom back is precisely because the little owl succumbed to its narcolepsy and Hau and Dartrix simply took advantage of that to finish him off. So Rowlet tries to train extensively to prevent ever unwittingly falling asleep in battle again... but nothing he does works, because narcolepsy isn't something he can "get over" just like that. He has to live with that condition. At first, Rowlet is devastated, but then his Pikipek/Trumbeak/Toucannon family comes to help Rowlet out and teaches him Sleep Talk to help mitigate his condition somewhat. This way, while Rowlet still falls asleep during his match against Decidueye, Ash immediately realizes what happened and calls for Sleep Talk before Nanu can finish declaring Rowlet to be knocked out, and from then on Rowlet wins the match in a way that doesn't feel like a cruel prank to Hau.

And that's all I can come up with for now. Maybe I'll remember more stinkers to rewrite later. This show has been on air for over two decades, after all.

 

[GrookeyFan77]

NımOk Imma Rewrite 2 More Battles: Ash vs Ritchie and Ash vs Hapu
Ash vs Ritchie
First Team Rocket Woldn't Interrupt! The Battle Starts With Butterfree vs Bulbasaur. The Two Attack Each Other Until Butterfree Uses Sleep Powder And Bulbasaur Uses Whirlwind To Deflect It. Bullshit I Know But Who Cares? Ritchie Sends Out Charmander Who Defeats Bulnasaur With Flamethrower. Next Up is Squirtle vs Charmander. After A Tough Battle Squirtle Beats Charmander With A Crit Bubble Beam. Then Spark Thundershocks Squirtle To Defeat It. And Then Pikachu vs Pikachu. Sparky Wins After Enchanging The Same Attack's Sparky Learns Mega Kick To Defeat Pikachu.
Ash vs Hapu
3v3 Rowlet Lycanroc Torracat. First Rowlet vs Gastrodon. After A Close Battle Rowlet Wins With Razor Leaf. And Then Golurk vs Rowlet. Ash Uses Tackle and It Phases Through It. And Then Golurk 1 Shots Rowlet With Flash Cannon. Ash Sends out Lycanroc and After Another Tough Battle Lycanroc Wins With Splintered Stormshards. Hapu Sends Out Mudsdale And It Defeats Lycanroc By Sending It To The Air With High Horsepower And Then Using Double Kick To Launch It Into The Water. Lycanroc, Weakend By Golurk Cant Take 3 Super Effective Attacks And Faints. And Then It's Down To Torracat vs Mudsdale. Ash's Torracat Never Participated In A Grand Trial So Why Not Make It Win?(like everyone else ın the thread said) Mudsdale Takes Advanteage Of Torracat's Fire Weakness And Uses Buldoze and High Horespower To Put It Into A Tough Situation. Hapu Uses Mudsdale's Z Move To Defeat It But Torracat Dodges It And Uses Fire Blast and Hits It With Revenge, Making It Stronger Defeating Mudsdale.
Now Let's Rewrite The ENTIRE ALOLA LEAUGE.
I Didnt Like How They Used 1 Pokemon For Most Of The Leauge Then 2 Then 3 For 1 Round Each. I Would Make Them Use 2 Than 3 Than 4.
Ash vs Faba
I'll Have Rowlet Battle. Rowlet Would Beat Alakazam But Lose To Hypno. The Battle Goes The Same After That.
Illima vs Guzma
I'll Have Scizor Ruthelesly Grab Eevee With It's Pinsir's And Repeately Spam Bullet Punch While Eevee Is Screaming In Pain Until Eevee Faints. This Will Show How Rutheless Guzma Is. The Battle Goes The Same After That. The Fact That He Beat 2 Mons With 1 Shows How Strong He Is.
Samson Oak vs Hau
I'll Have Decidueye Beat Komala and Then Switch Into Raichu To Beat Vulpix.
Mallow vs Lana
The First Round Is Shaymin vs Sandy Which Ends In A Tie. Then The Battle Is Same
Mina vs Sophocles
I'll Have Togedemaru Do Something And Defeat Wigglytuff With Pin Missile. The Match Is The Same After That.
James vs Jessie
The Battle Starts Of With Meowth (On James'S Side) Losing To Wobbufet Cuuz It's Fury Swipe Got Countered. James Send's Out Mareanie And The Battle Is The Same. Then Jessie Sends Out Mimkyu Who Doesn't Wanna Battle So Jessie gets Disqualified.
Kiawe vs Acerola
I'll Make Turtonator Lose To Mimikins and Then Make Marowak Defeat Mimikins. The Battle Is The Same After That.
Lillie vs Gladion
The Battle Is The Same. Lillie Has 1 Pokemon
James vs Gladion
The Battle Starts With Lycanroc Counter 1 Shoting Meowth Sending Him Blasting Off. Rest Is Same.
Ash vs Hau
ROWLET WILL NOT SLEEP. The Battle Starts Pikachu vs Raichu and Obviously Chuuster Wins After Getting Rekt By Decidueye. Then The Battle Is Same But Instead Of Sleeping Rowlet Gets Up When Nanu Is About To Declare Hau Winner.
Kiawe vs Sophocles
The Battle Starts With Marowak Defeating Togedemaru In A Comedic Battle and Then Losing To Zap Cannon From Vikavolt. Rest Is Same
Guzma vs Lana
This Battle Already Showed How Ruthless Guzma Was. So Why Not Make Him Do The Same Thing He Did To Illima's Eevee to Sandy? After That He Switches and Reks Primarina.
Kiawe vs Gladion
The Battle Starts With Charizard Losing To Umbereon. Marowak Defeats Umbereon Who Was Weakend By Chrizard And Then The Battle Is Same
Ash vs Guzma
The Battle Starts The Same With Gollisopod Switching Torracat Fire Blast Stuff Like That. And Then Gollisopod Battles Rowlet and Just As He's About To Get Hit By Brave Bird He Switches Into Pinsir Who Rowlet Defeats With Brave Bird. This Causes Guzma To Downright ABUSE Gollisopod and Then The Battle Goes Same With The Pikachu Shit
Ash vs Gladion
The Battle Starts With Torracat vs Umbereon Which Ends In A Tie and Then The Battle Is Same.

 

[Enzo]

I think I would rewrite the final battle between Dawn and Zoey and the Grande Festival

Spoiler

There is not a lot I would change, but I do think I need to point some things out. They purposefuly didn't count a LOT of stuff in Dawn's performance.

Like, in the battle between Zoey and Nando, in the PRIOR (!) episode, she started by immediatly combining Energy Ball and Shock Wave, and gained points for that. But then Nando counters said combo, and gained points over that. Fair, right?

Then in the NEXT episode, Dawn starts out by combining Aura Sphere and Bubble Beam. But for some reason, they didn't counted her any points, but Zoey gained her points for countering that. I MEAN WHAAATTT? Why did she not gained points by doing exactly what Zoey did and earned points for in the previous episode??????

And it doesn't ends there. You see, at the begginning of the season, Dawn fought Ursula at a Contest. She made a combo, but then Ursula's Plusle and Minun locked her mons into Encore, and since repeating the same moves over and over again in a Contest is VERY bad, she was in trouble. So Dawn ordered Cyndaquill and Mamoswine to attack each other to break the Encore, and she obvioulsy lost points for that, so it's been established that hurting your OWN pokemon in a Contest is frowned upon, and you lose points for that. A simple in-universe rule, right?

Then we came back to the final battle. In the final act, as Dawn's Sky Attack and Peck combo is coming down full force at her mons, Zoey orders for them to combine Glameow's Thunderbolt with Gallade's Psycho Cut. BUT, in the process, Glameows uses Thunderbolt on Gallade, clearly damaging him, if his scream is any indicator. Oh, so Zoey loses points now doesn't she? NO, SHE DOESN'T.

How on Earth do you estabilish a rule a few eps prior and then just balantly ignores that????? And to make matters worse, if Dawn already got penalised by doing that in a regular Contest, you would think Zoey would pay a even bigger price by doing that in the Grand Festival, let alone in the finals of all things. But that's not even mentioned. Then why did you make such a big deal out of it in a past episode.

If anything, I feel like this battle is a great example of them being like ''oh this character cannot win here'', and not even bothering of making it somewhat believable, especially in the DP anime. At least, it wasn't as bad as Ash VS Tobias. IIIshhh.

 

[KrspaceT]

I would personally tweak a fair amount of battles from Gen 5 onward to get past the 3-3 thing that seemed to become all but standard.....

If I had full freedom I'd not only tweak the battle with Gary so the knock outs were not near concentrated at the end as tey were, but I'd give one of Infernape's wins at Lily Valley Paul to another mon (say Torterra) and set it as the finals. Same outcome, but somehow that just works for me.

 

[Johtohfiller]

I'd make Ash's battle with Paul at the lake less one-sided.

 

[Nicolas721]

Ash vs Ritchie (Kanto League)
Butterfree (Ash's, comes back after saving him from Team Rocket) vs Charmander: Butterfree wins.
Butterfree vs Fearow: Fearow wins.
Squirtle vs Fearow: Squirtle wins.
Squirtle vs Sparky: Sparky wins.
Charizard vs Sparky: Charizard is disqualified (it's part of its development, there isn't much I can do).

Ash vs Nanu (Grand Trial)
Poipole vs Sableye: Poipole wins.
Poipole vs Krookodile: Krookodile wins.
Rowlet vs Persian: Persian wins but Rowlet masters Razor Leaf.
Lycanroc vs Persian: Lycanroc wins.
Lycanroc vs Krookodile: Lycanroc wins.
Also, the battle takes place at night BECAUSE HE'S THE FIRST DARK SPECIALIST TO BATTLE ASH HOW COULD THEY SCREW IT UP AND LEAVE THE NIGHT FOR HAPU. Ahem, sorry.

Ash vs Paul (Sinnoh League)
Get rid of Aggron and give us a Torterra vs Torterra battle where obviously Ash's wins.

 

[GrookeyFan77]

Let's Rewrite Ash Vs Elesa
The Battle Is The Same Until Palpitoad Loses, Then Ash Sends Out Snivy (HE DIDNT FORGET TO BRING 6 MONS) Who Gets Defeated By Emolga (No Attract Bs) Then Pikachu Wins And Then Beats Eelektrik

 

[Ghost Diplocaulus]

Ash vs Volkner. This one is honestly just a matter of letting Torterra have a win. Either make Pikachu the fall guy or just don't give Infernape two wins, I get that in every Gym that Infernape participated in (barring against Maylene) he beat two Pokemon, but that honestly didn't need to be a constant. Volkner is supposed to be the toughest Gym Leader in Sinnoh, after all, so having none of Ash's Pokemon get more than one win against his team could be a neat way to reflect that. Look, I get that Volkner's Electivire was the best equipped mon moveset-wise to deal with Torterra, but that's incredibly easy to fix: just have Luxray know the Elemental Fangs and/or Jolteon know Signal Beam. Bam. Done. Now the rest of Volkner's team has viable and believable options to defeat Torterra.

Personally, this is how I would have best liked the Gym battle against Volkner to go:

1. Electivire vs Pikachu- Pikachu wins
2. Jolteon vs Pikachu- Jolteon wins
3. Jolteon vs Torterra- Torterra wins
4. Luxray vs Torterra- Luxray wins
5. Luxray vs Infernape- Infernape wins

 

[FinnishPokéFan92]

Ash vs Cameron. Absolutely.

First off, let's get the obvious out of the way: Cameron should have lost. In the Indigo League, Ash's inexperience and overconfidence in his skills cost him his battle with Ritchie due to Charizard's disobedience. But does Cameron get any kind of comeuppance when he acts even more stupidly than Indigo League Ash? No. He brings five Pokémon to a Full Battle, goes all "Meh, doesn't matter, I'll manage", and ends up winning due to an unnaturally OP Riolu and an evolution ex machina? No. Just, no. He would've deserved to lose and get a similar lesson as Ash had gotten after losing the Indigo League.

And who should Ash have lost against? We all know it's Virgil, the guy who was introduced as a League rival and never once battled Ash. What a waste. What I would've done is have Ash battle him after beating Cameron, leave Eevee as Virgil's last Pokémon, and have it evolve into Sylveon during the battle and beat Ash's final Pokémon. Sure, it would've been a mid-battle evolution, but it also would've been a Pokémon Ash had never seen or battle against before, so a loss against it would've been more believable than a loss against that Lucario. Plus, it would've also been some nice XY foreshadowing, instead of relegating that job to a Pikachu short.

 

[GrookeyFan77]

unnaturally OP Riolu

Yes. It Beat An Unpleasant. (Altough That Unpleasant Sucked...)

 

[FinnishPokéFan92]

Yes. It Beat An Unpleasant. (Altough That Unpleasant Sucked...)

It's written "Unfezant". Or did you write it wrong on purpose?