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Rumour thread (SPOILERS - ALLEGED LEAKS)

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You guys are missing something. It's perfectly plausible for them to exclude a second Eeveelution from the movie short when they apparently excluded a second Mewtwo Forme from the movie. While I want more Eeveelutions, I'm not really against the idea of Sylveon being the only one in this generation (and it makes more sense). However, I can easily see them hiding another one at this point.
 
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There being a second Eeveelution is less likely than there being a second Mewtwo form, I think. Mainly because we've barely gotten anything concrete regarding Newtwo (do we even have a name for it?), leaving the possibility that another form is being hidden along with all the other info on it, but we've gotten a decent amount about Sylveon, including how there's eight Eeveelutions now. I don't think they'd be announcing the number if there was another one waiting to be revealed.
 

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I'd love Dive to return, they're is a large enough sea space plus all the rivers etc. looks like they're could be a good handful of secret places, and hopefully another underwater City! I loved the one in Hoenn!

Also, RSE Remakes CONFIRMED!?!?

there* and there*

Anyways, Fennekin's move is called Glow Punch and people fear that Fennekin *might* become another Fire/Fighting-type.

And I'm supposed to be an English Language student *slaps self*

Actually, Mordicuno is dead wrong XD you were already correct; 'there' is the correct word. (I'm assuming you weren't being sarcastic haha.)

But on topic, I'm glad that it seems Dive will be used once again. And Lol at the Fire/Fighting discussions/worries that have now been brought to the table.

I think s2daam just edited their post and fixed it.

Yeah I did haha XD

Lol, nevermind then! XD Back on topic.

It's very interesting to me that Fennekin gets Glow Punch. It does seem to be a Fighting type move since it sounded like it was super effective against Litleo. While another Fire/Fighting starter would be bat s*** crazy ridiculous, I wouldn't mind seeing people's reactions XD This definitely makes the WPM rumors seem a bit hazy on the starter typing subject (more so)
 

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You guys are missing something. It's perfectly plausible for them to exclude a second Eeveelution from the movie short when they apparently excluded a second Mewtwo Forme from the movie. While I want more Eeveelutions, I'm not really against the idea of Sylveon being the only one in this generation (and it makes more sense). However, I can easily see them hiding another one at this point.

I'm honestly pretty skeptic about a second Mewtwo form, but considering that we have little details on the form we have, I think that it's more possible that they're hiding a second Mewtwo form than hiding a second Eevee evolution from the short. Considering how they showcased every other Eevee evolution in that short and have been promoting the evolution line like crazy with the short, the anime and merchandise, I find it really difficult to believe that they would leave out an Eevee evolution from the short. I wouldn't mind another Eevee evolution, but I think it makes more sense that it is the only one for this generation.

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There being a second Eeveelution is less likely than there being a second Mewtwo form, I think. Mainly because we've barely gotten anything concrete regarding Newtwo (do we even have a name for it?), leaving the possibility that another form is being hidden along with all the other info on it, but we've gotten a decent amount about Sylveon, including how there's eight Eeveelutions now. I don't think they'd be announcing the number if there was another one waiting to be revealed.

I think that the form is called the Awaken form. We still don't really know anything more about it. I think that they would have included a second form in the movie if there was one, but because of the serious lack of information we have on the Awaken form, the idea that they're hiding another form isn't outside the realm of possibilities. We know a bit more about Sylveon at least with being a Fairy type and a couple of attacks it uses. If there was another Eevee evolution, I still think it would have been revealed along with Sylveon or not too long afterwards and it definitely would have been in the short. I don't think that they'd announce the number of Eevee evolutions if there was another one unrevealed for this generation either.
 

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If there is a form where Mewtwo "awakens", then what is this second form supposed to be?
 
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I've no idea, though one idea I've seen is that the forms are supposed to be related to dominant and recessive genes... no idea which of those would be the "Awakened" form, but I'd guess recessive.
 

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I've no idea, though one idea I've seen is that the forms are supposed to be related to dominant and recessive genes... no idea which of those would be the "Awakened" form, but I'd guess recessive.

I doubt it. I agree that this form looks like it would be recessive. Although if it were true, you'd think the dominant form would come first. LOL
 

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The "awakened" form is Mewtwo using it's hidden powers. Why would Mewtwo limit its powers?

The dominant and recessive gene theory makes me think about Metal Gear Solid.
 

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On the Eeveelution thing again...another reason I see it unlikely is all the merchandise. They've been releasing sets of plushies, figurines, 3DS pens, coin purses, cellphone straps, and even chopsticks all containing Eevee with all of the others, even Sylveon. Why leave the new one out of so much merchandise?
 

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On the Eeveelution thing again...another reason I see it unlikely is all the merchandise. They've been releasing sets of plushies, figurines, 3DS pens, coin purses, cellphone straps, and even chopsticks all containing Eevee with all of the others, even Sylveon. Why leave the new one out of so much merchandise?

Then why is there only one Mewtwo Forme getting products if we're supposed to get two?
 

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On the Eeveelution thing again...another reason I see it unlikely is all the merchandise. They've been releasing sets of plushies, figurines, 3DS pens, coin purses, cellphone straps, and even chopsticks all containing Eevee with all of the others, even Sylveon. Why leave the new one out of so much merchandise?

Then why is there only one Mewtwo Forme getting products if we're supposed to get two?
I've only seen merchandise for normal Mewtwo, not Newtwo. Even if he does have merchandise, the eeveelutions are steadily being advertised as a group. Excluding one makes no sense.
 

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I'm really confused though...why would GF introduce another eeveelution so late? Unless I missed something or if it's already been discussed in this thread, wouldn't it have made more sense to advertise a second eeveelution along with Sylveon? o.o I don't see any other eeveelutions that absolutely need to be made at this point (though honestly this is just me, I have a feeling that there's probably going to be eeveelutions of all 18 types eventually).
 

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I'm really confused though...why would GF introduce another eeveelution so late? Unless I missed something or if it's already been discussed in this thread, wouldn't it have made more sense to advertise a second eeveelution along with Sylveon? o.o I don't see any other eeveelutions that absolutely need to be made at this point (though honestly this is just me, I have a feeling that there's probably going to be eeveelutions of all 18 types eventually).

I imagine that they'll have Eevee evolution for every type eventually too. They're just too gimmicky and marketable to do otherwise, but I really can't see them introducing another one in this generation. Excluding one from all of the merchandise that the current Eevee evolutions have really wouldn't make any sense. If there was another evolution, it would have been promoted right along with Sylveon.
 

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Am I the only who caught this?
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^ A youtuber I watch caught that, I can't remember which one though. All observations I can find indicate that it's the DNA symbol on the Japanese box art.
 

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If the second Eevee evolution is an event Pokémon, it could make sense why it hasn't gotten any marketing yet.
 

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I think that the form is called the Awaken form.
It is referred to as "Awakened Mewtwo" in the anime-related promotional material, but it's obvious that its actual name is different considering that it is still listed as "???" on the XY website. The movie just used a placeholder name that ties into the title (which has no connection to the actual plot, but I digress).

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If the second Eevee evolution is an event Pokémon, it could make sense why it hasn't gotten any marketing yet.
Why would an Eeveelution be event-exclusive? If anything it could be introduced (alongside other Pokémon) via DLC and/or a separate game much later into this generation.
 

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If the second Eevee evolution is an event Pokémon, it could make sense why it hasn't gotten any marketing yet.
It would, but what kind of event could prevent you from simply evolving one yourself? An item/location based evolution? That's been done already, and more importantly, it could easily restrict said Eeveelution from any metagaming if you could only get one.
 

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If the second Eevee evolution is an event Pokémon, it could make sense why it hasn't gotten any marketing yet.
It would, but what kind of event could prevent you from simply evolving one yourself? An item/location based evolution? That's been done already, and more importantly, it could easily restrict said Eeveelution from any metagaming if you could only get one.
I don't know, mostly just pointing out a possibility. Maybe rather than event, it's a method that's not available at the beginning, but added later as downloadable content or through an event. Or maybe it'll be introduced as an event, but the evolution method will only appear in Gen 7.
 

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I don't think there will be another eveelution, I don't see a reason for them not promoting it, if they had another one.

What I meant was that I don't see any reason that wouldn't be incredibly contrived, so, there may be one...
 
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