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Rumour thread (SPOILERS - ALLEGED LEAKS)

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The means to evolve the Eevee could be an event location, that I could see happening. IE - The Dragon Stone or Dragon Forest or whatever only being dlc. I mean, we never thought a non-Legendary would be an event Pokemon, but then we got Zorua and Zoroark. So . . .
 

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I believe PokeBeach rumours at 100%, but remember that this player played the game in early February when the game isn't complete. GF is free to do changes between that and the release.

There are things planned early (main city, player characters, basis of the region, box art legendaries, the diecisio of Fairy type) but another are planned during the developement.

I will put in bold my opinions on that matter. Don't complain, please.

Pokebeach said:
Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it. (WPM Note: Fairy is confirmed, super effectiveness against Dragon is confirmed.) The type is real, I fully belive his Dragon immmunity. However, the type chart appears to be incomplete.
Sylveon is Fairy-type. Some older Pokemon will be reclassified to Fairy, such as Mawile (Steel/Fairy). (WPM Note: Sylveon being Fairy and old Pokemon being reclassified is confirmed.) I think that this details are true (Sylveon is real)
Mewtwo has two new formes, not just one. Both are activated via items. I think that the two Mewtwo form was scrapped for the movie and because that for the games.
The professor’s English name is Patrice. It was a beta name. The real proffesoor is Sycammore
The Starter final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting. (WPM Note: Two days later [on Monday], the source informed me he had mixed up the secondary types of Chespin and Froakie’s final evolutions. This bullet point reflects the correction.) I believe them 100%
The first Gym is Bug, the second is Fairy, and the fourth is Fighting. (WPM Note: First Gym being Bug is confirmed.) I'm almost sure that the types are confirmed that two of them could be in the wrong order. Exist the risk of the dates being true fro one version. And I think that the Fairy Gym are the 8th but in Lumiose. The leaker believed that is the second Gym because the leaker knew that is the Lumiose City Gym (the second city with gym). I'm sure that CLemont and Grant 1) are the second gym kleaders in one of the version, or 2) are the 2nd and 3rd Gym Leaders).
A few attacks will be dual-typed. (WPM Note: Many people are interpreting this as an attack shooting out two types at once, but it could just be that the attack switches types under certain conditions or something like that.) I don't see it fake; but there's of the type of eature that has to be released on the E3 for now. Probably GameFreak attempted to do that but scrapped it.
There will be a new type of battling style that Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can participate in. (WPM Note: Confirmed. He also specifically named them “Sky Battles” but I missed putting that into the original post.) Confirmed
You will be able to see a Pokemon’s EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs. (WPM Note: Gamefreak confirmed there will be greater visibility of EVs.) Very hinted at the E3 and I believe that.

Pancham evolves into Pangoro in the early level 30s. In order to evolve Pancham into Pangoro, you need to have one other Dark-type Pokemon in your party. Pangoro’s type is Fighting/Dark. The evolution method is not confirmed but is hypoed that is news and I bleive the statement.
A Pokemon named Inkay evolves into Malimar. To evolve it, you have to hold your 3DS upside-down when it levels up (the 3DS has an accelerometer and gyroscope, so it can detect that). Malimar’s type is Dark/Psychic. Same here.
A Psychic-type Pokemon named Espurr (ESP + purr) evolves into Meowstick (Meow + mystic?). (Sounds like Psychic-type cats. Meowstick’s name sounds too similar to Meowth to me though.) I believe for the moment that this pokemon exist.
Like in B/W you have two rivals – one is friendly and the other is competitive. Your rival that is more friendly gives you his/her fully evolved starter Pokemon after you beat the game. Apparently there 4 of them. But 1) 4 is too many and 2) not all appears to be rivals. Also, remember that the played on February.
Another professor named Sycamore gives you either Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle. Sycamore is true, and the Kanto Starters, seeing APFF I fully believe that.
Even though it shows the player riding on a Gogoat in the new trailer, players can’t ride on their own Pokemon. What was shown is just an alternate way of getting around Lumiose City and it only works with Gogoat. Works with olther pokemon but the leaker didn't see it.
HMs still exist but there’s a lot less of them. Remmeber, he see some things, not the entire game. The game is probably not fully rprogrammed.
Players will be able to see their Pokemon’s EVs (probably through the same in-game facility mentioned in the other post).
A new move, Belch, is a Poison-type attack that has a base power of 120. The user must consume a held Berry to perform it. It could be true and I don't see any problem.
Draining Kiss is a Fairy-type attack that heals the user for the same amount of damage performed. It has a base power of 60. Confirmed.
If the previously revealed forme of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly similar to Mewtwo’s original design, the second supposed form of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly/vaguely similar to Mew‘s design. I don't think that the second forme exists because Mewtwo 's purpose is the movie.
In case you missed our correction the other day, the Starters’ final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting.

I think that Mewtwo and dual-typed attacks are scrapped at this point. The rest of the things could be either way.
 

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Unlike the majority, I believe the rumors of the new Eeveelution.

The fact it isn't in the Eeveelution short doesn't mean it doesn't exist. People are making it seem as if Gamefreak doesn't have the ability to promote this new Eeveelution without being featured in the short.

There is SO much we don't know about this game. There is no reason to simply write off a possible Eeveelution because it wasn't featured with Sylveon.

Maybe Gamefreak wanted to promote Sylveon by itself and save the other Eeveelution for future endeavors.
 

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I like everything here, except the starter evolution types. Froakie I guess I'd accept as Fighting, but it's still meh. Fennekin I'd prefer to stay Fire, but I honestly don't care if it's Fighting or Psychic. Chespin is the biggest problem. Dark is such a bad choice! I'd rather have Steel or Ground! Maybe even Rock! That'd pertain to the whole chesnut/armor thing AT LEAST!
 

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Unlike the majority, I believe the rumors of the new Eeveelution.

The fact it isn't in the Eeveelution short doesn't mean it doesn't exist. People are making it seem as if Gamefreak doesn't have the ability to promote this new Eeveelution without being featured in the short.

There is SO much we don't know about this game. There is no reason to simply write off a possible Eeveelution because it wasn't featured with Sylveon.

Maybe Gamefreak wanted to promote Sylveon by itself and save the other Eeveelution for future endeavors.

I still don't see a reason as to why they would exclude another Eevee evolution from all of the merchandise than Eevee and all of its evolutions have been getting lately. I could see them wanting to promote Sylveon by itself, but I still think it would have been in the short along with Eevee's other evolved forms.
 

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Unlike the majority, I believe the rumors of the new Eeveelution.

The fact it isn't in the Eeveelution short doesn't mean it doesn't exist. People are making it seem as if Gamefreak doesn't have the ability to promote this new Eeveelution without being featured in the short.

There is SO much we don't know about this game. There is no reason to simply write off a possible Eeveelution because it wasn't featured with Sylveon.

Maybe Gamefreak wanted to promote Sylveon by itself and save the other Eeveelution for future endeavors.

I still don't see a reason as to why they would exclude another Eevee evolution from all of the merchandise than Eevee and all of its evolutions have been getting lately. I could see them wanting to promote Sylveon by itself, but I still think it would have been in the short along with Eevee's other evolved forms.

You don't see the reason because you don't call the shots. Gamefreak does. You don't know what they have planned, none of us do. If there is another Eeveelution in the shadows, I'm sure they took all of this into consideration and decided what's best for their company and franchise.

Judging by the rumors of the second Mewtwo form, another Eeveelution that has yet to be revealed isn't surprising at all.

And btw, Gamefreak is always capable of making merchandise of the new Eeveelution. This Eeveelution short isn't the only chance they have at promoting anything relating to Eevee and its evolutions.
 

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I find another Eeveelution unlikely now, just cause they've released them in a pair twice dosen't mean they will continue to do so, introducing Sylveon by itself seems unusual yes, but there is a first time for everything and I think this may be the time they introduce a sole Eeveelution.
 

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It wouldn't make any sense if Game Freak, after heavily advertising one new Eeveelution (Sylveon) for several months and including it with the previous Eeveelutions in a Pikachu Short, would reveal a new Eeveelution. What would be the point?
 

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You don't see the reason because you don't call the shots. Gamefreak does. You don't know what they have planned, none of us do. If there is another Eeveelution in the shadows, I'm sure they took all of this into consideration and decided what's best for their company and franchise.

Judging by the rumors of the second Mewtwo form, another Eeveelution that has yet to be revealed isn't surprising at all.

And btw, Gamefreak is always capable of making merchandise of the new Eeveelution. This Eeveelution short isn't the only chance they have at promoting anything relating to Eevee and its evolutions.

First of all, please calm down. I'm not saying that I'm calling the shot or that I know what they have planned and nothing I said indicated that I did feel that way. I don't appreciate the attitude I'm getting from that. I just said that I don't see why they would exclude an Eevee evolution from all of this promotion. They could make more merchandise for a new evolution, but I don't really see a reason to exclude it from the rest of the line in all of this promotion. If there was another Eevee evolution, it would honestly make a lot more sense to include it with the rest of the evolutions, instead of not including it for months on end. Another Eevee evolution just seems extremely unlikely to me right now.
 

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You don't see the reason because you don't call the shots. Gamefreak does. You don't know what they have planned, none of us do. If there is another Eeveelution in the shadows, I'm sure they took all of this into consideration and decided what's best for their company and franchise.

Judging by the rumors of the second Mewtwo form, another Eeveelution that has yet to be revealed isn't surprising at all.

And btw, Gamefreak is always capable of making merchandise of the new Eeveelution. This Eeveelution short isn't the only chance they have at promoting anything relating to Eevee and its evolutions.

First of all, please calm down. I'm not saying that I'm calling the shot or that I know what they have planned and nothing I said indicated that I did feel that way. I don't appreciate the attitude I'm getting from that. I just said that I don't see why they would exclude an Eevee evolution from all of this promotion. They could make more merchandise for a new evolution, but I don't really see a reason to exclude it from the rest of the line in all of this promotion. If there was another Eevee evolution, it would honestly make a lot more sense to include it with the rest of the evolutions, instead of not including it for months on end. Another Eevee evolution just seems extremely unlikely to me right now.

Just for clarification, I'm perfectly calm. I'm sorry if you feel as if I'm giving you an attitude when that's totally not the case, nor my intentions.

I understand exactly where you're coming from, but if I were to ask you anything in regards to the new Pokemon that have yet to be revealed, you wouldn't be able to answer any of my questions because you don't know what Gamefreak has planned.

That's my stance on this debacle. I respect your opinion on this matter, I simply disagree and believe that there is a new Eeveelution.
 

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I could understand thinking there might be a second new Eeveelution sitting around unrevealed. There's no evidence and it flies in the face of the publicity that we've already seen, but hey, never say never ever. It's not 100% yet, so it's somewhat reasonable.

What I cannot understand, however, is saying that you believe that there will definitely be another one. I mean... why? There's no reason to believe that to be the case based on the evidence that we've already seen. Don't get me wrong, you're allowed to hope for another, but there is zero quantifiable reason or evidence supporting a hidden Eeveelution. At all.
 

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I could understand thinking there might be a second new Eeveelution sitting around unrevealed. There's no evidence and it flies in the face of the publicity that we've already seen, but hey, never say never ever. It's not 100% yet, so it's somewhat reasonable.

What I cannot understand, however, is saying that you believe that there will definitely be another one. I mean... why? There's no reason to believe that to be the case based on the evidence that we've already seen. Don't get me wrong, you're allowed to hope for another, but there is zero quantifiable reason or evidence supporting a hidden Eeveelution. At all.

I'm not sure if you're addressing me, but if you are, can you please direct me to the post where I stated "there will definitely be another one", because I don't recall ever saying that.
 

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Just for clarification, I'm perfectly calm. I'm sorry if you feel as if I'm giving you an attitude when that's totally not the case, nor my intentions.

I understand exactly where you're coming from, but if I were to ask you anything in regards to the new Pokemon that have yet to be revealed, you wouldn't be able to answer any of my questions because you don't know what Gamefreak has planned.

That's my stance on this debacle. I respect your opinion on this matter, I simply disagree and believe that there is a new Eeveelution.

I do appreciate the clarification and I'm sorry that I misunderstood your tone. The whole not calling the shots and that I don't know what Game Freak has planned gave the impression that there was a bit of an attitude, especially when nothing I said before gave that impression, but I also might just interpret that as more confrontational than it actually was due to how sensitive I am. Of course I wouldn't have the answer about new Pokemon yet to be revealed. Few people would be able to provide answers for something like that. I don't think that means that a secret Eeveelution is any more likely to happen though. I personally don't really see the point in keeping a new Eeveelution secret. It would seem like a huge waste marketing wise to keep one evolution secret for months instead of including it with the rest of the line when they've been promoting the Eevee evolution line like crazy for months. It would make a lot more sense to include it instead of keeping it a secret. They could just make more merchandise for a new evolution later, but given how much focus the entire line has been getting for the past few months, it would make more sense to bring them all together for the pre-release season. I wouldn't say that it's impossible, but it does seem highly unlikely that they would introduce another evolution in this generation at this point and I don't really see why they would keep it a secret.
 

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I mean, we never thought a non-Legendary would be an event Pokemon, but then we got Zorua and Zoroark. So . . .
And the event was solely for BW1; in BW2 Sage Rood just up and gave you N's.

Draining Kiss is a Fairy-type attack that heals the user for the same amount of damage performed. It has a base power of 60. Confirmed.
NOT confirmed 100% -- the move itself confirmed, but its details (base power, exact amount healed) are still unknown. Speculation says that it should heal for half the damage dealt, just like every other HP-draining attack in the series.

Remember, he saw some things, not the entire game. The game is probably not fully prrogrammed.
If they were releasing playable versions for internal testing in February, the game probably was "fully" programmed already and any differences between then and two months from now will range from cosmetic to minor.
 
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Drain-type moves that dealt 60 base damage in the past now deal 75 base damage, so I'm not sure if Drain Kiss deals 60 base damage.
 

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I'm honestly 50/50 when it comes to this whole debate of whether or not there is a second Eeveelution this generation. My reasoning for both these theories are primarily based on what Sylveon's evolution method might be, also this is just my opinion so no harsh judgement. The first theory leans more to the side that there is only one Eeveelution this generation but because of that it evolves via a similar method as the last two Eeveelutions Leafeon and Glaceon which is to level up in a certain area. Now some of you may ask why? Well the three of them are very similar to one another in terms of their Japanese names...

1- Leafia (Leafeon)
2- Glacia (Glaceon)
3- Nymphia (Sylveon)

As you can see all three of them have a name that ends with the suffix -ia. But not only that they have a very similar design as well...

Glacia-Nymphia-Leafia.png

They have a boot looking coloration at the tips of their legs, kind of like the first generation Eeveelutions Vaporeon, Jolteon, and, Flareon all had collars and also shared an identical evolution method which was via stones. Now how will Eevee evolve into Sylveon if it has a similar evolution method to Leafeon and Glaceon? Well I'm sure some of you have already probably seen me post this once before but I'll do it again anyway, I think that Eevve will evolve into Sylveon if it is leveled up inside a Fairy Ring...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_ring

I can see this as a very probable evolution method to evolve Eevee into Sylveon.

The second theory is pretty silly and it just maybe has to do with my OCD-ish tendencies XP, but if Sylveon does get an alternate evolution method to all the other Eeveelutions then I'd beg to differ that there would maybe just maybe with the teeny tiniest glimmer of hope be another Eeveelution with an evolution method that is similar to Sylveon's.

Overall I'm staying true to my first theory and I'm also sticking with the majority of the community that there just might only be one Eeveelution this generation as much as it pains me to say it. But hey at least we got one, so no complains from me :D
 
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Am I the only who caught this?
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Upon further inspection, I've discovered that this is a move. In the E3 coverage video on the Eshop, it shows PSS battles, which have the same background as the screenshot.
 
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Am I the only who caught this?
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No, it was mentioned in other threads. It's just that people can't shut up about the possibility that Fennekin might be a Fighting type because it used a punching move....even though its called Glow Punch and not all punching moves are Fighting moves, and not all Pokemon that punch are Fighting type.
 

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Pretty sure most people are joking when they're freaking out over that proving it's Fire/Fighting.

If anything this suggests it may becomes bipedal at some point which is, imo, not something I want to see.
 

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Cyndaquil becomes bipedal, and the entire Charmander line are. Yet none of them are Fire/Fighting. Being bipedal doesn't indicate a thing.
 
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