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Rumour thread (SPOILERS - ALLEGED LEAKS)

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Jeff

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I'm honestly 50/50 when it comes to this whole debate of whether or not there is a second Eeveelution this generation. My reasoning for both these theories are primarily based on what Sylveon's evolution method might be, also this is just my opinion so no harsh judgement. The first theory leans more to the side that there is only one Eeveelution this generation but because of that it evolves via a similar method as the last two Eeveelutions Leafeon and Glaceon which is to level up in a certain area. Now some of you may ask why? Well the three of them are very similar to one another in terms of their Japanese names...

1- Leafia (Leafeon)
2- Glacia (Glaceon)
3- Nymphia (Sylveon)

As you can see all three of them have a name that ends with the suffix -ia. But not only that they have a very similar design as well...

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They have a boot looking coloration at the tips of their legs, kind of like the first generation Eeveelutions Vaporeon, Jolteon, and, Flareon all had collars and also shared an identical evolution method which was via stones. Now how will Eevee evolve into Sylveon if it has a similar evolution method to Leafeon and Glaceon? Well I'm sure some of you have already probably seen me post this once before but I'll do it again anyway, I think that Eevve will evolve into Sylveon if it is leveled up inside a Fairy Ring...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_ring

I can see this as a very probable evolution method to evolve Eevee into Sylveon.

The second theory is pretty silly and it just maybe has to do with my OCD-ish tendencies XP, but if Sylveon does get an alternate evolution method to all the other Eeveelutions then I'd beg to differ that there would maybe just maybe with the teeny tiniest glimmer of hope be another Eeveelution with an evolution method that is similar to Sylveon's.

Overall I'm staying true to my first theory and I'm also sticking with the majority of the community that there just might only be one Eeveelution this generation as much as it pains me to say it. But hey at least we got one, so no complains from me :D

Interesting. I've had a hunch lately that maybe Eevee evolves into Sylveon when you level it up with a fairy type in your party. It would showcase a new evolution method, and technically wasn't available in past generations since the fairy type didn't exist yet. It could be argued that fairy-type pokemon existed (such as Jigglypuff and Gardevoir), it just wasn't known at the time that they were part fairy, which is the only thing going against that theory.

The common design element that you pointed out does make me lean more to the belief that Sylveon is a location based Eeveelution as I had thought originally. I never saw the location as being a fairy ring (although that's a possibility). Based on how they've seemed to be treating fairy types (girly, based on sweet smelling/tasting things, etc.) it would make sense if the location was a flower-filled route with a rock such as the moss rock or ice rock in it.
 

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Bipedal vs. quadrupedal is generally identified by whatever pose the Pokemon is seen using to stand in place. Typhlosion may run faster on all fours, but when it's standing in place, it's standing upright, not on all fours like Quilava.

Bipedal vs. quadrupedal manifests itself in the individual's body proportions, too: Bipeds have really long hind legs (typically longer than the torso), while quadrupeds have short hind legs (shorter than torso length).

Not true, bipedalism and quadrupedalism are defined by the form of locomotion, not resting pose. For example Swampert, who is often seen standing on two legs, is a quadruped as it moves on all fours.

Until we get confirmation that Glow Punch actually involves fists rather than being an energy attack or something similar, there is no evidence that Fennekin will become bipedal.
 

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Interesting. I've had a hunch lately that maybe Eevee evolves into Sylveon when you level it up with a fairy type in your party. It would showcase a new evolution method, and technically wasn't available in past generations since the fairy type didn't exist yet.
It's not entirely a new evolution method when you consider Mantyke -> Mantine.

Not true, bipedalism and quadrupedalism are defined by the form of locomotion, not resting pose. For example Swampert, who is often seen standing on two legs, is a quadruped as it moves on all fours.
Yeah, you're correct, though through G5 we only have sprites of a Pokemon to go by, which don't exactly show how they naturally behave in motion. E.g. Typhlosion's HGSS walking animation is bipedal.
 
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As for that method, there's also the Pokebeach rumor that says Pancham evolves into Pangoro with a Dark type in your party.
 

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Not true, bipedalism and quadrupedalism are defined by the form of locomotion, not resting pose. For example Swampert, who is often seen standing on two legs, is a quadruped as it moves on all fours.
Yeah, you're correct, though through G5 we only have sprites of a Pokemon to go by, which don't exactly show how they naturally behave in motion. E.g. Typhlosion's HGSS walking animation is bipedal.
Pikachu also walks on two feet, but runs on all fours. I'd imagine that's how Typhlosion does it (though its not like they'll make completely unique sprites for running and walking)
 

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They sort of show the Typhlosion thing in the 3D games. If you notice how when Typholosion gets attacked, it simply walks back into place on two, but when it goes to attack it runs on all fours.
 

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It's not entirely a new evolution method when you consider Mantyke -> Mantine.

It wouldn't be entirely, but it would be a kind of evolution method impossible to do in previous Gens because of lack of Fairy typing then, thus Game Freak would still be able to retain a kind of 'continuity' that way.

Although I'm just saying. I don't think that will be Sylveon's evolution method. It seems a little too easy to do.
 

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The rumored Flip evolution for Inkay also seems too 'easy' to do. Then again, so are evolutionary stones and items....
 

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On the Eeveelution thing again...another reason I see it unlikely is all the merchandise. They've been releasing sets of plushies, figurines, 3DS pens, coin purses, cellphone straps, and even chopsticks all containing Eevee with all of the others, even Sylveon. Why leave the new one out of so much merchandise?

Then why is there only one Mewtwo Forme getting products if we're supposed to get two?

We're not 'supposed' to get two. There's only confirmation of one. Until a second is confirmed, we can't suppose to know we're getting a second one until GameFreak announces its confirmation and we're currently waiting on it.
 

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The rumored Flip evolution for Inkay also seems too 'easy' to do. Then again, so are evolutionary stones and items....

Flip doesn't count because we don't know if that's true.

Evolution stones are rare items. So it's still not very 'easy' to do.
 

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Considering how the rumor apparently got even the kanto starters being in right, flip is real too. Even not, after gen 5, something tells me GF is gonna make the game carts leak with new evo methods.

And I said it before guys, 2 mewtwo formes and Kanto starters need to be considered and accepted on the same level, and that is on possible plot reasons and not how iconic they are.
 

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The rumored Flip evolution for Inkay also seems too 'easy' to do. Then again, so are evolutionary stones and items....

Every Flip Evolution rumour I've seen says that the Pokemon needs to be at X level in order to evolve
 

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Yeah, and it makes more sense that way - it has to reach a certain threshold first and the Flip is a secondary requirement (like how Riolu -> Lucario requires not just high friendship, but during the day).

Considering how the rumor apparently got even the kanto starters being in right...
Any bonafide confirmation about that, or is it still just educated speculation?

Evolution stones are rare items.
Celadon had quite the monopoly going, didn't they?
 

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Still an educated guess, but the zukan set cements it. You can have all your doubts about the leak but one way or another everything will be in the games.
 

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Well, I guess I am following a strict definition of "confirmed" in order to avoid unnecessary spoilers....
 

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Still an educated guess, but the zukan set cements it. You can have all your doubts about the leak but one way or another everything will be in the games.

Agreed. I don't need to hear it directly from Gamefreak when it's blatantly obvious. And if this was stated in the rumors Pokebeach posted which included various information that was proven true, then there is no reason to constantly doubt it.
 

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Still an educated guess, but the zukan set cements it. You can have all your doubts about the leak but one way or another everything will be in the games.

I have to agree, not to mention everything else those leaks mentioned came true
 

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On another note, I was wondering about the second Eeveelution if there's a second Eeveelution.

I know the rumors stated Fairy is weak against Poison, Steel, and Fighting. So I was wondering what name they could choose for any of those types?

Someone posted a long list of potential Dragon names that had names that actually sound pretty cool. I'm not sure what they would name a Poison, Fighting, or Steel Eeveelution.

Titaneon = Steel
Miasmeon = Poison
Vitaleon= Fighting

I'm sure someone can come up with something better lol
 

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Steel would likely be Steeleon, Mineon, Graneon, and so forth. Poison toxeon, Fumeon, Smogeon, Polluteon, and then you have fighting with stuff like Traineon, Champeon, etc.
 

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On the Eeveelution thing again...another reason I see it unlikely is all the merchandise. They've been releasing sets of plushies, figurines, 3DS pens, coin purses, cellphone straps, and even chopsticks all containing Eevee with all of the others, even Sylveon. Why leave the new one out of so much merchandise?

Then why is there only one Mewtwo Forme getting products if we're supposed to get two?

We're not 'supposed' to get two. There's only confirmation of one. Until a second is confirmed, we can't suppose to know we're getting a second one until GameFreak announces its confirmation and we're currently waiting on it.

I will answer the part on bold: as incredible as you think, the new Mewtwo form (only the form, normal Mewtwo is) is getting zero merchandise for the upcoming movie.

Which means that GF could have been scrapped the second form from the movie. i remembered Mew merchandise from a set with said 2013 in late 2012 and even a toy on mid-February (important) had Mew in it. The descriptuion of the second Mewtwo form says that is like Mew.

Answer: Mew was planned to appear in the movie (early merchandise that had Mewtwo and Mew related to the movie but indirectly) but scrapped it later. The secnd Mewtwo form could be the samething (scrapped).

Why Mewtwo's new form hasn'0t got merchandise? The reason why Mewtwo and Genesect event doesn't have tie-ins, the same one of why we don't know anything about Mewtwo form, etc.

The reason is because BW and XY are incompatible without an app. GF have to released the app with XY or the games will be incompatible. In fact, GameFreak can't promise compatibility with Gen V (in Gen IV and Gen V compatibility was nnounced at the start of coverage; we have 4 months, more info than usual and no trace of compatibility until now).

the solution apparently is an app but because it wasn'0t announced, they can't inform about it. Also, there's the risk that the app will be released after the release of XY having a period with no compatibility.


And I said it before guys, 2 mewtwo formes and Kanto starters need to be considered and accepted on the same level, and that is on possible plot reasons and not how iconic they are.[/QUOTE]
I agree with the Kanto starters (they have merchandise for October after but I'm unsure witht the new Mewtwo forme. Remember that the keaks was made in February.
 
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