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Rumour thread (SPOILERS - ALLEGED LEAKS)

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@TakuyaDrini; I'm with you on that. Goodra is fine and all, but it just doesn't click with me either. Pseudo-legendary Pokemon are generally better with a dual type. While, yes, it can limit weaknesses, it also limits offensive abilities (as stated since forever, Dragon is only super-effective against itself, even if it packs a punch). Plus if it does evolve at Lv 70, that's way too far. So I'm with you. Goodra is nice and such, but I feel ones like Garchomp are better, since they can actually maximize their abilities and power better.

Yeah i like him too but was disapointed with his typing and lack of quality. He is pretty much like Haxorus and Haxorus wasn't considered a pseudo-legendary.
 

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The thing that I'm most happy about this gen is GF finally come to their senses. According to Josh, I think, Hawlucha can't sky battle, which probably means that Gyarados, Mantine, Doduo and Dodrio can't as well.

While Volcarona and Beedrill can't either? I don't know, this looked like a Sky battle.


@CynthiaLover;

Your rival had a Goodra much earlier. It's likely there's an unknown requirement for its evolution.
 

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Yeah, I'm with everyone on the new pokemon in the next games wavelength. You either buy the next games whole, or as DLC for XY, with X2Y2/Z as a separate save slot.
 

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Aegislash wouldn't be a bad pseudo, and seems to meet the criteria most people are comparing former pseudos.

Dual type, has a 3 stage evolution, etc

We just need some confirmation on the BST range for it (if it has been posted, I must've missed it).

On a side note--I had Goodra pegged as a pseudo. Regardless of anything else, if it hits the 600 mark, it still counts. While I do agree that dual types are the way to go, perhaps GF wanted to try something else. From a gameplay perspective, Hydration is a good ability (I already see Goodra spammed to death on rain teams). Sap Sipper is probably more situational in use, depending on the type of team you are facing. Overall, I wager Hydration will be the way to go.
 

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So that means only Pokemon that can actually fly can be used in Sky Battles. Makes perfect sense to me. And while they said some Pokemon with Levitate can partake int them as well, I'm guessing only ones like Haunter and such can, since we saw it do so in a trailer (I can hardly imagine a Claydol in a Sky Battle). Glad to see GF wised up there.
 

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Dual-typed or not Goodra is the pseudo-legendary. Before Hydreigon, all the pseudo-legends had Attack as their highest stat - Hydreigon's is Sp. Attack. If they broke one of the traditions last Gen, I don't see why they can't do it again.
 

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The thing that I'm most happy about this gen is GF finally come to their senses. According to Josh, I think, Hawlucha can't sky battle, which probably means that Gyarados, Mantine, Doduo and Dodrio can't as well.

While Volcarona and Beedrill can't either? I don't know, this looked like a Sky battle.


@CynthiaLover;

Your rival had a Goodra much earlier. It's likely there's an unknown requirement for its evolution.

That the battle with Lysandre. Vocarona and Beedrill, I'm going to test it out once I can my hand on my copy.
 

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Aegislash wouldn't be a bad pseudo, and seems to meet the criteria most people are comparing former pseudos.

Dual type, has a 3 stage evolution, etc

We just need some confirmation on the BST range for it.

Smogon estimated its stats to be around 530 but depending on how clever you are with stance changes, it can effectively be over 600.
 

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One of the tradition that had not yet been broken in Pseudo is the fact that they evolve by level alone, and GF just stack them up again this gen.
 

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@The Outrage; I knew about that, but it wouldn't be the first time an underleveled Pokemon appeared (Lance's Dragonites in the Johto games are prime examples). But I was saying that IF the Lv 70 bit was a genuine evolution placement, then that would be the most discouraging part of Goodra. But, like you, I doubt the Lv 70 bit is the real deal. It was just a general observation because we don't know the whole deal with Goodra's evolution at this time. So, most likely, it'll evolve with either high happiness or in a certain situation, and the Lv 70 bit was just coincidence.
 

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Aegislash wouldn't be a bad pseudo, and seems to meet the criteria most people are comparing former pseudos.

Dual type, has a 3 stage evolution, etc

We just need some confirmation on the BST range for it.

Smogon estimated its stats to be around 530 but depending on how clever you are with stance changes, it can effectively be over 600.

Thank you for clarifying for me.

Now that would be interesting....I mean, maybe not a starting 600 BST but could potentially become (and even surpass) with its ability.

Would it be able to be classified as a pseudo? I know the benchmark for getting that status is relatively cut and dry, but--as with anything in life, there are always exceptions to the rule. Aegislash being able to achieve the 600 BST doesn't come from a stat boosting move, but from its own set ability to change dynamics for battle.

Hmm.....interesting.
 

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I don't think about the DLC will be made unless Game Freak confirms this.
Plus only Kanto Starters beside Blaziken who can Mega Evolve is just no fair.
What is worse is that Kanto had been overfocused since Mewtwo, but atleast Hoenn got some attentions.
That what I worried the most about the leaks.
 

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Aegislash wouldn't be a bad pseudo, and seems to meet the criteria most people are comparing former pseudos.

Dual type, has a 3 stage evolution, etc

We just need some confirmation on the BST range for it.

Smogon estimated its stats to be around 530 but depending on how clever you are with stance changes, it can effectively be over 600.

If the one we've seen so far has low IVs and low EVs it might as well be closer to the 600 BST mark...
 

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He should had been Fairy, even if it was only Fairy. The immunity to Grass is kind worthless as he already resisted the "Basics" types. If he could be more resistent to Water, Eletric and Fire aswell (maybe take 25% damage from all these types) it would be better as it would increase his use. Maybe his type is different because this wasn't an actual full version (i can dream).
 

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Aegislash wouldn't be a bad pseudo, and seems to meet the criteria most people are comparing former pseudos.

Dual type, has a 3 stage evolution, etc

We just need some confirmation on the BST range for it.

Smogon estimated its stats to be around 530 but depending on how clever you are with stance changes, it can effectively be over 600.

If the one we've seen so far has low IVs and low EVs it might as well be closer to the 600 BST mark...

Well, either way, Aegislash is definitely going to be a prime-time battler. And a royal headache to all who face it. I can see it very easily one competitive teams with what it possesses.
 
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