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Rumour thread (SPOILERS - ALLEGED LEAKS)

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Have to say, I really like the character portraits for each Trainer Class, have to say I prefer that to low-res models being used.
 

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We knew about this move since Aurorus was first revealed. Nothing new. Flying Press is more impressive since it actually does Flying X Fighting damage....though not sure if there's anyone that gets a x4 or higher weakness from it.

That's such an alarmist analysis for Freeze Dry. Dragons have way more stacked up against it this generation (a new SE, an immunity, some weird mist thing), yet no one seems ready to retire them yet.

Abomasnow?

grass=2x
ice=2x

its 4x
 

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I'll have to hunt down the review later, but one did mention that Clefairy is now Fairy-type.
 

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because alot of dragons are part flying/levetating/are useful on weather teams (goodra)
Because water Pokemon don't have an entire weather condition devoted to them and many abilities that exploit it, right? And you know, x4 weakness and the high frequency of Ice beam has soooo hindered dual Dragon types that now using any water type for fear of being weak to one move is out of the question.
Yes. If Freeze Dry is a TM move it will be worse than Stealth Rock.
 

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I haven't been able to track all the new info, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but how do we know that there are only 69 new pokemon while there are still 30 empty spaces in the dex? Any clarification would be highly appreciated.
 

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also anyone know where i can find a chesnaught avatar?

besides that, thunder teams are so op, 1 weakness.
 

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Yes. If Freeze Dry is a TM move it will be worse than Stealth Rock.

So, water types, with its two types plus one move weakness is suddenly going to cower in fear of Freeze Dry even though very few of these Pokemon are going to get a x4 weakness, and a couple that do already manage fine with one?

Freeze Dry is going to be worse than Stealth Rock, an entry hazard that can cut a Pokemon's HP by 50% for even thinking about switching in? I question whether you even know what Stealth Rock does.
 

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I haven't been able to track all the new info, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but how do we know that there are only 69 new pokemon while there are still 30 empty spaces in the dex? Any clarification would be highly appreciated.
I think it's because the leakers obtained the National Dex. Chespin was 650, Xerneas 716 I think. Everything between Chespin and Xerneas was already revealed.
 

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I haven't been able to track all the new info, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but how do we know that there are only 69 new pokemon while there are still 30 empty spaces in the dex? Any clarification would be highly appreciated.

Because Zygarde's National Dex number is #718. A leaker has already obtained the National Dex. 718 - 649 = 69. Of course, their are probably event legendaries, but as of now, all of the non-legendary 6th Generation have been found.
 

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Anyone else noticed that if we get a Dragon/Steel pokemon it will have two Weakness (Ground and Fighting), 4 Normal Damages (Fairy, Fire, Ice and Dragon) and 12 Resistances? That ignoring it could have levitate being immune to Ground. It would be OP, now i know why it won't happen.
 

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I haven't been able to track all the new info, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but how do we know that there are only 69 new pokemon while there are still 30 empty spaces in the dex? Any clarification would be highly appreciated.

Everyone's assuming that because Chespin is #650 and Zygarde is #719 that the National dex can't pull a Sinnoh dex in Platinum (AKA having regular Pokemon AFTER the legendaries, with more legendaries to follow) Victini already broke the mold and we've had countless other examples of regular 'mons and other legendaries being sprinkled in weird places at the end of a regional dex (Dragonite +Tyranitar lines, Phione, Victini, etc.) That being said, I don't think we're getting anymore non-DLC event Pokemon, besides one more regular 'mon to meet the 70 new Pokemon. And that'll most likely be the Ground/Fairy everyone's been looking for. (The Mew of this generation will probably be DLC like Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Shaymin and Victini were before it...)

Also, could the OP get updated with every Kalos-mon's National dex #, please?
 

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Anyone else noticed that if we get a Dragon/Steel pokemon it will have two Weakness (Ground and Fighting), 4 Normal Damages (Fairy, Fire, Ice and Dragon) and 12 Resistances? That ignoring it could have levitate being immune to Ground. It would be OP, now i know why it won't happen.

Nearly anything shoved in with Steel becomes OP because of all its resistances. Combine Steel with any other typing that has a decent offensive moveset, and we've got a top tier Pokemon barring crap stats.
 

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So... if the rumour of 70 previously reported would be exactly 70, then there's of course still room for two more Pokémon.... Event Legendaries I suppose...
 

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Anyone else noticed that if we get a Dragon/Steel pokemon it will have two Weakness (Ground and Fighting), 4 Normal Damages (Fairy, Fire, Ice and Dragon) and 12 Resistances? That ignoring it could have levitate being immune to Ground. It would be OP, now i know why it won't happen.

Nearly anything shoved in with Steel becomes OP because of all its resistances. Combine Steel with any other typing that has a decent offensive moveset, and we've got a top tier Pokemon barring crap stats.

bar bisharp, have no clue why its not even uu
 

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I haven't been able to track all the new info, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but how do we know that there are only 69 new pokemon while there are still 30 empty spaces in the dex? Any clarification would be highly appreciated.

Everyone's assuming that because Chespin is #650 and Zygarde is #719 that the National dex can't pull a Sinnoh dex in Platinum (AKA having regular Pokemon AFTER the legendaries, with more legendaries to follow) Victini already broke the mold and we've had countless other examples of regular 'mons and other legendaries being sprinkled in weird places at the end of a regional dex (Dragonite +Tyranitar lines, Phione, Victini, etc.) That being said, I don't think we're getting anymore non-DLC event Pokemon, besides one more regular 'mon to meet the 70 new Pokemon. And that'll most likely be the Ground/Fairy everyone's been looking for. (The Mew of this generation will probably be DLC like Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Shaymin and Victini were before it...)

Also, could the OP get updated with every Kalos-mon's National dex #, please?

They will wait for fans reactions. We would never get Dusknoir and Gliscor without it.
 

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I haven't been able to track all the new info, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but how do we know that there are only 69 new pokemon while there are still 30 empty spaces in the dex? Any clarification would be highly appreciated.

Everyone's assuming that because Chespin is #650 and Zygarde is #719 that the National dex can't pull a Sinnoh dex in Platinum (AKA having regular Pokemon AFTER the legendaries, with more legendaries to follow) Victini already broke the mold and we've had countless other examples of regular 'mons and other legendaries being sprinkled in weird places at the end of a regional dex (Dragonite +Tyranitar lines, Phione, Victini, etc.) That being said, I don't think we're getting anymore non-DLC event Pokemon, besides one more regular 'mon to meet the 70 new Pokemon. And that'll most likely be the Ground/Fairy everyone's been looking for. (The Mew of this generation will probably be DLC like Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Shaymin and Victini were before it...)

Also, could the OP get updated with every Kalos-mon's National dex #, please?

They will wait for fans reactions. We would never get Dusknoir and Gliscor without it.

What do you mean? Dusknoir and Gliscor were already around in D & P. They were added to Platinum to expand the Pokedex, weren't they?
 

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I haven't been able to track all the new info, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but how do we know that there are only 69 new pokemon while there are still 30 empty spaces in the dex? Any clarification would be highly appreciated.

Everyone's assuming that because Chespin is #650 and Zygarde is #719 that the National dex can't pull a Sinnoh dex in Platinum (AKA having regular Pokemon AFTER the legendaries, with more legendaries to follow) Victini already broke the mold and we've had countless other examples of regular 'mons and other legendaries being sprinkled in weird places at the end of a regional dex (Dragonite +Tyranitar lines, Phione, Victini, etc.) That being said, I don't think we're getting anymore non-DLC event Pokemon, besides one more regular 'mon to meet the 70 new Pokemon. And that'll most likely be the Ground/Fairy everyone's been looking for. (The Mew of this generation will probably be DLC like Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Shaymin and Victini were before it...)

Also, could the OP get updated with every Kalos-mon's National dex #, please?

They will wait for fans reactions. We would never get Dusknoir and Gliscor without it.

Who said that there will be DLC anyway? No one confirms this yet from what I heard all the way!
 

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I haven't been able to track all the new info, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but how do we know that there are only 69 new pokemon while there are still 30 empty spaces in the dex? Any clarification would be highly appreciated.
Everyone's assuming that because Chespin is #650 and Zygarde is #719 that the National dex can't pull a Sinnoh dex in Platinum (AKA having regular Pokemon AFTER the legendaries, with more legendaries to follow) Victini already broke the mold and we've had countless other examples of regular 'mons and other legendaries being sprinkled in weird places at the end of a regional dex (Dragonite +Tyranitar lines, Phione, Victini, etc.) That being said, I don't think we're getting anymore non-DLC event Pokemon, besides one more regular 'mon to meet the 70 new Pokemon. And that'll most likely be the Ground/Fairy everyone's been looking for. (The Mew of this generation will probably be DLC like Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Shaymin and Victini were before it...)
Also, could the OP get updated with every Kalos-mon's National dex #, please?
They will wait for fans reactions. We would never get Dusknoir and Gliscor without it.
What do you mean? Dusknoir and Gliscor were already around in D & P. They were added to Platinum to expand the Pokedex, weren't they?
They are part of the Platinum Expansion. Pretty sure they were only added to the game after an update.
 
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