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Rumour thread (SPOILERS - ALLEGED LEAKS)

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Ninja-Mage

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I did some digging and apparently the recent rumors came from some guest commenter on PokeJungle, who is claiming that he/she is a game tester for Nintendo?

At least they didn't say their dad works for Game Freak. lol.

Well my dad doesn't work for them but my aunt Cookie is married to the CEO John GameFreak. Her name is Cookie GameFreak though you may want to try her maiden name Cookie-Mage if you're trying to look her up.

Back to the eevee discussion as Silktree put it this really is the first time they announced an eevee evolution prior to the games release. With the past four they were mostly just suppose to be a surprise. And I thik that's what this new evolution is intended to be also.
 

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I suppose there could be another Eeveelution waiting. Sylveon is special because of it's new type. I'm thinking if there is one, it may either be Dragon or or one of whatever types Sylveon is weak to.
 

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I will just put it simply, do NOT trust leakers, most of the information they put is just information they make up at the top of their head to mass-troll people, if anything is accurate to the information they make up is purely coincidence.

I've heard many people say that Mewtwo may have another forme, but if it did, we would have probably seen it already given the recent movie, so it would be pointless.

I suppose there could be another Eeveelution waiting. Sylveon is special because of it's new type. I'm thinking if there is one, it may either be Dragon or or one of whatever types Sylveon is weak to.

If anything, it will most likely be a Steel type Eeveelution, possibly robot based. Eeveelutions always come in pairs that match each other, Espeon and Umbreon were day and night, Leafeon and Glaceon were summer and winter, this pair can be magic (Sylveon) and technology (Steel Eeveelution), or natural and artificial, because having it be good and evil would just seem too corny for the franchise.
 

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I will just put it simply, do NOT trust leakers, most of the information they put is just information they make up at the top of their head to mass-troll people, if anything is accurate to the information they make up is purely coincidence.

I've heard many people say that Mewtwo may have another forme, but if it did, we would have probably seen it already given the recent movie, so it would be pointless.

I suppose there could be another Eeveelution waiting. Sylveon is special because of it's new type. I'm thinking if there is one, it may either be Dragon or or one of whatever types Sylveon is weak to.

If anything, it will most likely be a Steel type Eeveelution, possibly robot based. Eeveelutions always come in pairs that match each other, Espeon and Umbreon were day and night, Leafeon and Glaceon were summer and winter, this pair can be magic (Sylveon) and technology (Steel Eeveelution), or natural and artificial, because having it be good and evil would just seem too corny for the franchise.

I'm pretty sure that if there was another eeveelution it would have been revealed and shown in the "Pikachu and Eevee Friends" short.
 

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I'm sure that if there was another Mewtwo form, then it would've been shown in the movie.
 

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I'm sure that if there was another Mewtwo form, then it would've been shown in the movie.
Same could be said for Deoxys....

That's because Pokémon Emerald wasn't released yet. In this case, we are receiving two games, only one form was shown, and the rumor implies that there will be an "X" type because he called the one we were shown the "Y" type. He also said that Mewtwo would have two forms. It wouldn't be new if he meant the regular form; he was talking about another form. It's similar to another rumor and it is likely to be false.
 
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I'm pretty sure that if there was another eeveelution it would have been revealed and shown in the "Pikachu and Eevee Friends" short.

I'm sure that if there was another Mewtwo form, then it would've been shown in the movie.

I'm sure that if there was nutella in my sandwich right now it'd be delicious! ..oh are we not doing a running thing with this? Cause it looked like you and the above poster had some.. oh nvm..

If anything, it will most likely be a Steel type Eeveelution, possibly robot based. Eeveelutions always come in pairs that match each other, Espeon and Umbreon were day and night, Leafeon and Glaceon were summer and winter, this pair can be magic (Sylveon) and technology (Steel Eeveelution), or natural and artificial, because having it be good and evil would just seem too corny for the franchise.

A robotic Steel Eevee evolution would be awesome. I never thought about how awesome that could be but if it looked like a junk robot or a toy robot even it'd be fantastic. I'd love it even if everyone else didn't. ROBO EEVEE SENTAI GO!
 
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It's because, in my opinion, Eeveelutions don't work that way. Also, wouldn't robots require electricity?
 

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If this were true, then Fairy Wind being doubly super effective against Hydreigon would mean that Gardevoir would OHKO it with Fairy Power (the minimum damage would be 192, which is well above 152HP). In the trailers, the damage dealt was 96 and then 100. The only way this can rumor could be accurate is if Gardevoir were significantly disadvantaged by way of lowering its level.
While it's true we don't know Gardevoir's level, Hydreigon was shown at Lv.50 which is impossible (Zweilous doesn't evolve until Lv.64) without level scaling in effect, strongly implying Gardevoir is Lv.50 too.

Now according to Smogon's damage calculator, under these given conditions:
- Lv.50 Gardevoir with absolutely minimized Sp.Atk (117)
- Lv.50 Hydreigon with absolutely maximized Sp.Def (156)
- STAB move with 60 base power
- Assumed double weakness (customized as: Psychic vs. Poison+Fighting)

Then expected damage output is 100-124, but the above conditions fail to replicate the 96 damage shown in the English trailer.
 

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How exactly would Eevee, a living organism, evolve into a robot? Oh I get it, maybe if you drop it's friendship to zero, then release or kill it, and afterwards you feel bad because you didn't work on your relationship with your Eevee, and then you make a robot Eevee due to your massive depression and that's your Steel type Eeveelution.
 

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Robots, at least in Pokémon, are living organism as well, so I wouldn't see the problem in Eevee evolving into one. That said, I think the only Eeveelution left is a Dragon-type one, that might still be revealed in Generation VI or in some other future generation.
 

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How exactly would Eevee, a living organism, evolve into a robot? Oh I get it, maybe if you drop it's friendship to zero, then release or kill it, and afterwards you feel bad because you didn't work on your relationship with your Eevee, and then you make a robot Eevee due to your massive depression and that's your Steel type Eeveelution.

Is it wrong that I liked and took joy in this description? But yah idk just seems wrong not to keep making more eevees at this point. Everyone loves them, this is clear. And they already have half the types covered.
 

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Are they? So if you opened up a Magnemite or any other robot Pokemon there would be like organs n' blood n' stuff? Though I get what you mean, Pokemon is dumb and has no logic or has just a little logic. I guess Steel Eeveelution could resemble a robot, but I just find it silly that a furry little dog thing suddenly evolves into a chunk of metal, like how does that evolution actually happen? Do you use a stone? Do you give your Eevee to some kind of a scientist and it will modify your Eevee into a Mechaeon though actually that would be pretty cool. Though I just think a Steel-type Eeveelution would just be a grey dog with metal spikes or whatevs.
 

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A robotic Steel Eevee evolution would be awesome. I never thought about how awesome that could be but if it looked like a junk robot or a toy robot even it'd be fantastic. I'd love it even if everyone else didn't. ROBO EEVEE SENTAI GO!

I actually made a robot Eeveelution about two years back called "Roboteon", here's a picture of it if you are curious. I'm thinking of redesigning it though, but it's how I imagine one would look like.

How exactly would Eevee, a living organism, evolve into a robot? Oh I get it, maybe if you drop it's friendship to zero, then release or kill it, and afterwards you feel bad because you didn't work on your relationship with your Eevee, and then you make a robot Eevee due to your massive depression and that's your Steel type Eeveelution.

I think that would be considerably too dark for a Pokemon game, especially since the franchise has a major concept on bonds between Pokemon and their trainers. I believe in a more lighthearted method of evolution for a robotic Eevee.

Robots, at least in Pokémon, are living organism as well, so I wouldn't see the problem in Eevee evolving into one.


Agreed, given Pokemon like Magnemite, Porygon, and Klink exist, it would make sense to have a robotic Eeveelution, even if the concept of mechanical Pokemon (especially among the fact that the Steel type exists) is rather rare.
 
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