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Rumour thread (SPOILERS - ALLEGED LEAKS)

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Garren

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Re: Rumour Discussion and Speculation

The PokeDex in the games more or less implies it can create illusions though, it's not something the Anime pulled out of thin-air:

The curved antlers subtly change the flow of air to create a strange space where reality is distorted.
 

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Stantler Pokedex entries:

The curved antlers subtly change the flow of air to create a strange space where reality is distorted.

Those who stare at its antlers will gradually lose control of their senses and be unable to stand.

The round balls found on the fallen antlers can be ground into a powder that aids in sleeping.

Stantler's magnificent antlers were traded at high prices as works of art. As a result, this Pokémon was hunted close to extinction by those who were after the priceless antlers.

Staring at its antlers creates an odd sensation as if one were being drawn into their centers.

Honestly Fairy or Psychic, it could go either way, really. Psychic abilities are generally attributed to the mind in pokemon and Stantler's abilities are mostly attributed to their antlers, so I'm a little inclined to lean more towards fairy, though. If anyone didn't already know, though, Stantler's antlers are shaped like eyes which does tend to represent psychic powers..
 

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Eh, they aren't exactly that spoilery of rumors, are they? Nothing really outlandish in there.
Yeah, we already know Xerneas is the Life Pokemon and Yveltal the Destruction/Death one.

Honestly Fairy or Psychic, [Stantler] could go either way, really.
If it were Psychic, Stantler would have already been Psychic, right?
 

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The rumor doesn't suggest Stantler is fairy or psychic, just that it gets an evolution that is fairy. Stantler itself has somewhat mystical leanings, but they aren't anything big or specific enough to give it an additional type. An evolution, however, might be. Truthfully, I do think that if Stantler was going to be Psychic, they would have made him such from the beginning, and since it's not, Stantler itself is unlikely to be given the Psychic type now, but that really isn't even part of the question really, so I don't see why it's being discussed. Stantler could just as easily gain an evolution with the fairy type added, attributing it to 'it's powers maturing after being exposed to a special stone' or whatever, something else. Not saying it will, just saying it's not like it's out of the question.

Though truthfully, I rather doubt that will happen, since one fairy-type deer is probably enough for one gen. We don't need a Stantler evolution on top of Xerneas, so I'm rather skeptical of that particular part of the rumor.
 

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You could tell sometime what types an evolution of an older Pokémon will be by looking at the abilities of the previous Pokémon. I could make an argument comparing Golduck to Stantler about how they are attributed to Psychic powers and the likelihood of their evolutions being retyped to Psychic.

Also, that last Pokédex entry you displayed points toward a Stantler evolution being a Psychic-type the most. It is saying that Stantler is causing others to enter a trance by manipulating the air.
 

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@LimitCrown; Manipulating the air with the shape of it's antlers, which are always shaped like that, not it's mind. Also, I stand by my "It's Antlers look like eyes," suggestion.

Stantlerstare.gif <--- Click for GIF.
 

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Why weren't those pokemon retyped earlier, since they date from 1st and 2nd generation? In so many years nobody spotted it but now? I don't think so. The only pokemon with justification to be retyped are those who will gain Fairy. Re-typing a pokemon is in fact an insult to the creator.
 

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Is there any word about an other Dream World with the new Global Link? Or will Dream World feature be gone forever?
 

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Can you explain Chimecho's powers, then? Also, Stantler is based on a reindeer. With what are reindeer commonly associated and which instrument is associated with that?
 

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Dream World was a big hit. We have dates for when BW/Unova stuff will stop being supported, but not a lot of word on what will be replacing it, if I recall correctly. I'm of the mind that it will be continued in an even more awesome form!
 

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In the anime, you can fry a Rhydon by 'aiming for the horn'.

And guess what ability Rhydon can have now that deals with this? The anime isn't completely non-canon.

FFS

Smogon said:
Lightningrod

All Electric-type attacks, even those from the wielder's ally in multi battles, hit the wielder with 100% accuracy regardless of the intended target, and give a Special Attack boost of one stage instead of doing damage. If the wielder and a Pokemon using Follow Me are out at the same time, and a Pokemon uses an Electric-type attack targeted at the Follow Me user's team, Follow Me will take precedence. If Hidden Power is Electric-type, it will be redirected and absorbed as well. If the wielder is already immune to Electric-type attacks (such as Marowak), the natural immunity takes precedence, and the wielder does not receive any Special Attack boost. If a Pokemon with Mold Breaker uses an Electric-type attack, it will be redirected but not absorbed by Lightningrod. If two Pokemon have Lightningrod in a multi battle, the faster Pokemon will draw the attack. In the event of a speed tie, the Pokemon who has been on the field longest will draw the attack.

Yes it has Lightningrod. No it is not affected by electric attacks. It also does not gain a Sp.A boost as the immunity takes precedence. It has the ability lightningrod because its horn acts as a lightning rod. Much the same as Seaking's and Zebstrika's horns, but no, not all pokemon with horns have lightningrod, nor do all pokemon with lightningrod have horns. It also does not magically lose its immunity to electric simply because it has a horn.

Not all pokemon that learn some psychic moves, such as imprison or zen headbutt, are psychic. If they wanted Stantler to be Psychic, it would have been from the outset. I very highly doubt they will retcon any pokemon to include an existing type, but they have shown us that they will retcon to Fairy. The 'rumour' hints that Stantler will get an evolution anyway, so it may not even be Stantler that gains the Fairy type itself, but an evolution of it. It's also worth remembering that these 'cryptic' rumours are not from a known source, therefore their authenticity is untested.
 

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So many rounds of rumours seem to have come out in the past few days, I don't know what to believe (at the moment none of them anyway, except PokeBeach). They all seem to be trying a little too hard.

But the rumour with the whole "Lustre" thing I could believe, kind of makes sense. I'd like it - not sure how it would work in conjunction with friendship though, if it did.
 

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Does any one know where IAMTHELEAKER mentioned only Marill, Gardevoir, and Jigglypuff become Fairy and nobody else, I only see this aspect mentioned here: http://i.imgur.com/pJxf5Yx.jpg

Does it have a cite somewhere?
 

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Kanto: 7th gym leader, fire type, named Blaine
Kalos: 7th gym leader, fire type, named Blaise

lmao.
 

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Guys, this isn't the place to talk about the anime's er..."logic".

The whole Flip Evolution thing makes me laugh, honestly. I know GameFreak occasionally likes to do somewhat-unique things regarding evolving (Karrablast and Shelmet, anyone?), but flipping the 3DS upside down to evolve? That's a bit too Farfetch'd to me. xD
Actually, that one seems pretty likely. Inkay is known as the "Revolving Pokémon", whereas Malimar is the "Overturning Pokémon". If you look at the two, Malimar does have features of an upside down Inkay. With the 3DS' gyroscope, it is possible. It was also mentioned in PokéBeach's leak, along with the names of the Pokémon.
 

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@Infinity Edge;
Electric/Normal to Electric/Dragon might sound crazy, but think of normal being used as a base that Helioptile has yet to uncover all its type prowness, much like litleo could well evolve into fire/(dark,poison) from fire/normal.
Also ffs guys arguing about stantler of all mon for a rumors credibility? Man I'm dying here!
 

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@Neptune's Disciple My point was that the anime isn't completely non canon in order to counter those saying that I shouldn't use the anime as an example. You missed the entire point of my argument. Also, I said that Stantler's abilities, as described by the Pokédex, makes a Stantler evolution more likely to be a Psychic-type.
Also, how is retyping a Pokémon an insult to the creator?
 

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Ih there's a second Eeveelution, I hope they reveal it soon. I have two shiny Eevees waiting for an evolution.
 
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