- Oct 15, 2015
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That one new Pokémon will probably be another new Ultra Beast. Maybe it'll be the Ice Beast that everyone keeps speculating?
I think it's safe to assume burst is at least part fire due to the name and theme (fireworks/candle hands) It may even be fire/ice for all we know. UBs tend to go for rare typings usually (except xurkitree) - steel/flying, grass/steel, bug/fighting , dark/dragon, rock/poison are all either unique typings or typings that belong to like 1-2 other pokemonCould we expect fire as well or fairy ?
Would be good to see a beast of any of those types
For Gamesweek, my money's on a new Z-Move, just like they revealed Breakneck Blitz last year. Though new customization options will probably be shown too, they just won't be a focus.I think it's safe to assume burst is at least part fire due to the name and theme (fireworks/candle hands) It may even be fire/ice for all we know. UBs tend to go for rare typings usually (except xurkitree) - steel/flying, grass/steel, bug/fighting , dark/dragon, rock/poison are all either unique typings or typings that belong to like 1-2 other pokemon
We are talking about Gamesweek in Milan which is 29th sept. -1st October. Ohmori and Iwao will be there and the only info we know is that they will showcase a battle from USUM for everyone there. It's unknown whether it will be a random wifi battle or anything else but with the demonstration being a battle, we can get the following:
-new pokemon/alolan form/new ub being used by somebody in the battle
-showcase a new battle facility to show the battle (last year they showed battle royal) e.g. the rumored gym simulator or something
-show new clothing/hairstyles/ new moves/z moves
Furthermore, Pokeshopper expects 1 new reveal on the 29th, which is likely to be a pokemon in the powerful category (e.g. pseudo and up). Last I checked, it was a picture with 3 mysteries. Paul Ryan said 2 of them are most likely necrolion/necrobat, but the third might be new. If it would showcase the new UBs, it wouldnt make sense to choose 1 over the other, if not, it can be something new
On the 22nd is Tokyo Game Show, which never has anything, nor does it have pokemon in its schedule, that was part of Phillyguy's bsing for the Nth time, so disregard it
Just wanted to point this out, but the section you're referring to talks about things that happened in SM. It's not even talking about USUM at all since it's titled "The Role of Solgaleo and Lunala in Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon"and most of them are so bad they haven't even checked the pokemon website to see that Lillie still stole Nebby from Aether and that Lusamine is still crazy
Isn't it being assumed the figure is Dusk Lycanroc, though? I'll grab the tweets in a sec.So here's things to look out for
The 29th - a new figure of something
October 1st- Live battle with Ohmori and Iwao.
That's also what I thought at first about the website, but on the other hand, under the Cosmog blurb there's a screenshot with the USM protagonist. So that seems to support the information and scenes contained on that page remaining true in USM. The specific wording is:Just wanted to point this out, but the section you're referring to talks about things that happened in SM. It's not even talking about USUM at all since it's titled "The Role of Solgaleo and Lunala in Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon"
That said, it's possible Lusamine has different motivations and the reason Lillie has Nebby is different.
Isn't it being assumed the figure is Dusk Lycanroc, though? I'll grab the tweets in a sec.
I see now, the page is quite confusing then... Don't really understand why they talk about SM there, yet show pictures from USUM, unless they're trying to show differences between them somehow, which doesn't really help.That's also what I thought at first about the website, but on the other hand, under the Cosmog blurb there's a screenshot with the USM protagonist, which seems to support the information and scenes contained on that page remaining true in USM. The specific wording is:
"Cosmog first met the player on the bridge of Mahalo Trail, where it was being attacked by Spearow."
The use of the past tense, combined with the previous mention of its role in Sun and Moon that you brought up seems to imply that this is just what happened in SM and not necessarily what will happen in USM, but that screenshot suggests otherwise.
On the other other hand though, that same section shows some scenes that are strongly suggested to go down differently in USM. Specifically, it states:
"Cosmoem evolved into Solgaleo or Lunala! Showing off the true power that was hidden within it, it lent its aid to the hero."
It also shows this image and a corresponding one for Lunala carrying Lillie and the protag into Ultra Space at the Altar of the Sunne/Moone, despite us knowing from the recent trailer that Necrozma appears and confronts the legendary before they can enter Ultra Space.
Both these seemingly contradictory screenshots appear in the series of blurbs that is described as summarizing Cosmog in the original SM, yet they seem to be a conglomeration of events from different games. So I'm just really confused by all of this, and while I very much hope you're right I'm not setting my expectations too high for a major change in Lusamine's role.
Though while maybe I'm interpreting the events at the altar in USM wrong, it does give me some faith that the only screenshot we can be certain is from USM is one of the least important ones in terms of plot. I'm pretty confident that Nebby won't enter Ultra Space the exact same way as in SM, and that opens the possibility of certain other info from that page not holding true for USM.
Side note pertaining to Cosmog on the bridge - we know the beginning of the game will be pretty different at least in terms of how you get your starters, so the bridge scene also stands a non-negligible chance of being altered. The Z-Ring scene at the Iki Town festival seems mostly the same, though, so I'd expect that you still get the Z-Power Ring from Tapu Koko at some point.
sorry the long post, but I have a lot of questions about that page of the website
Oh now that is something that I hope USUM can shed further light on. Lillie does have a vague resemblance to Nihilego but I personally don't buy how Lusamine could be that bad at copying Nihilego given how obsessed she is with it.Even if it is a mistake, it proves that USUM Lillie still starts out wearing her Nihilego dress (an artifact of Lusamine's obsessions and overbearingness stemming from grief over the disappearance of Mohn) and is still harboring Nebby. So that one screenshot alone, even when divorced from everything else, still suggests that quite a lot about her storyline is the same as it was before.
Lusamine would have only had whatever notes and descriptions Mohn left behind to work off of. She'd never actually seen a Nihilego herself until that one appeared at Aether Paradise after the Akala Trials. So if the paper just described something with a wide-rimmed "hat," draping tentacles, and glass-like transparencies, she'd put together something resembling Lillie's outfit.Oh now that is something that I hope USUM can shed further light on. Lillie does have a vague resemblance to Nihilego but I personally don't buy how Lusamine could be that bad at copying Nihilego given how obsessed she is with it.
Mine and like the entire fandom's presumption, because it's so blindingly obvious that almost everybody noted it as soon as we saw UB-01. Lillie's hat is straight-rimmed, Nihilego's is a bit wavy, so what? It's still a distinctly wide-rimmed hat and it's kind of absurd to think that Game Freak are going for precise imitation. Their history with symbolism has always been to be "indirect and subtle-but-not-really." Like Colress, for example. He doesn't have any explicit links to Team Plasma anywhere on his uniform, but we all guessed he would be affiliated with them because he looked slightly untrustworthy and was wearing the same white/black/cyan color scheme. It feels rather like skipping the headline when nitpicking details about straight rims or wavy rims when the two - Lillie and Nihilego - share widely-acknowledged visual similarities and are more directly related to Lusamine than anybody else in the narrative, and are very clearly paralleled as objects of her affection and obsession.I read that entire thread where you discussed this with someone else. Generally, I don't find your arguments convincing as it is premised on the presumption that she had no clue what Nihilego ~REALLY~ looked like. Their silhouette isn't that similar imo. The "hat" is completely different. It's such a loose translation that it is just a vague resemblance to me.