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SPOILERS: Rumours/Fakes/Leaks Discussion Thread (V2)

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Now i think if lance will come back,i really need his theme remixed xd


Also...Let's hope that they will ot pull an ORAS for the legendary and the old boss themes
Man I love Lance's theme. Although Red has the same theme and it got remixed for the battle tree.
 
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the only problem is that the only thing the leak has "right" is the Rainbow Rocket stuff, which is somewhat tenuous considering that the USUM wishlist person beat them to it (and actually has verified info). there's zero indication that the game takes place in a world where you move a year later (Lillie is still fleeing Aether, we still have the OG encounter with Nihilego at Aether, Hau is still doing his island challenge; none of these being things you directly influenced), the league being built already is independent of a time jump, and if it were to be true that champion must be so mysterious that they haven't been revealed or promoted at all. Lillie surprising me/you is subjective.

that leak is definitely fake, if not lucky.
True but the wishlist list has 1 miss and I find the last one unlikely especially when before the league the Hau battle will likely be the same, but no one knows though so its still up in the air if that leak was right or got some hit/misses atm its possible they guessed 2 right although you are right this "Mysterious person" wasn't shown or promoted at all in any trailers and its close to release so that's very likely fake but at least 3 and 4 of the leak were right.
 
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If we can get new Pokemon, I want more ice types, like an actual non alolan ice type.
someone told me that there is a rumor about ice type ultra beast
 
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Hmm...the original USUM leak with "RR Giovanni" said he was "dad af".

The player's mom is from Kanto and has a Meowth...

...

But I'd like to point out the mom is pretty young looking (late 20s?) while judging by Red Giovanni would be far older. I don't know if they'd do a Giovanni gets a teenager pregnant and abandons her plot though.
 
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I don't remember a rumor about an ice type Ultra Beast. I just wanted new non Ultra Beast Pokemon.
 
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Hmm...the original USUM leak with "RR Giovanni" said he was "dad af".

The player's mom is from Kanto and has a Meowth...

...

But I'd like to point out the mom is pretty young looking (late 20s?) while judging by Red Giovanni would be far older. I don't know if they'd do a Giovanni gets a teenager pregnant and abandons her plot though.
Maybe dead AF is related to silver?

Man I love Lance's theme. Although Red has the same theme and it got remixed for the battle tree.
Just a few seconds got remixed,also...im still disappointed that they missed the chance to remix the theme xD

I really hope they will remix Red and Blue theme,same for the leaders themes
 
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someone told that there is a rumor about ice type ultra beast
Oh yeah, I think I know the leak you’re referring to, but it’s pretty crazy (says there will be tons of new Mega Evolutions like for Girafarig and Farfetch’d lol). It also claims the existence of three more Ultra Beasts, whereas our current evidence suggests that there will be only two more.

That being said, I really want to see an Ice-type Ultra Beast.

But I'd like to point out the mom is pretty young looking (late 20s?) while judging by Red Giovanni would be far older. I don't know if they'd do a Giovanni gets a teenager pregnant and abandons her plot though.
Where is Silver’s mom?

Uh-oh.

Or maybe Giovanni is Lillie’s true father. Who worked with Lusamine’s brother, Mohn (which more logically explains their shared physical traits, rn the idea of Papa Mohn seems kinda incesty), many years ago, and let Mohn take all of the credit for their research because he didn’t want to draw attention to himself. Until one day, they ran an experiment during which they both fell into an Ultra Wormhole...

Notice how SM never actually outright state that the Aetherkids’ dad was Mohn... :eek:

And people always talk about how similar Gladion is to Silver... :eek::eek::eek:

And why else would Giovanni suddenly want to abduct Lusamine????? Open your eyes, BMGF!!! And lay gaze upon the truth!
 
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Hmm...the original USUM leak with "RR Giovanni" said he was "dad af".

The player's mom is from Kanto and has a Meowth...

...

But I'd like to point out the mom is pretty young looking (late 20s?) while judging by Red Giovanni would be far older. I don't know if they'd do a Giovanni gets a teenager pregnant and abandons her plot though.
I think it was a typo for dead. Dead af meaning, dead as f***

Since it's strongly hinted but not made clear outright that he jumped off the waterfall at the end of the celebi event in hgss
 
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Oh yeah, I think I know the leak you’re referring to, but it’s pretty crazy (says there will be tons of new Mega Evolutions like for Girafarig and Farfetch’d lol). It also claims the existence of three more Ultra Beasts, whereas our current evidence suggests that there will be only two more.
yeah, that's the one.
i think it was ub-freeze, ub-pet ,and ub-eyelashe.
 
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I don't know if Ho-Oh and Lugia are connected to any boss, but the others could be.
Wait, if Zygarde's there... does that mean we're teaming up with Zygarde against Rainbow Rocket? Or is Game Freak just gonna stuff it in some random wormhole? I really hope it's the former, especially since the latter would be worse than not given a proper conclusion to the Zygarde Cell quest.
 
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The hell does Rainbow Rocket even mean?
Literally Rainbow Rocket. The logo is a Rainbow R, and the multiple team boss factors in the multiple colors they use. And you know, 7 colors, 7 gens, 7 Trials, 7 everything this gen, Rainbows go with everything.
Wait, if Zygarde's there... does that mean we're teaming up with Zygarde against Rainbow Rocket? Or is Game Freak just gonna stuff it in some random wormhole? I really hope it's the former, especially since the latter would be worse than not given a proper conclusion to the Zygarde Cell quest.
Lysandre coming back would mean the Ultimate Duo are gonna be featured in some way, so I can see Zygarde being needed for the post game plot as well.


Seriously crazy thought, but what if Rainbow Rocket is the core feature of everything in the post game? This goes back to an idea I had about post game Ultra Trials, but retrofitted to the RR plot. What if Episode Rainbow features 7 Legendary Trials. Not exactly trials per say, but I can see them using 7 of the Bosses as "Trial Captains", with the Legendary as the "Totem Pokemon". "Trial" sites would be classic dungeons of the series, and they would even have a "league" with the top 4 admins as the E4 and Giovanni as the "Champion".
 
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yeah, that's the one.
i think it was ub-freeze, ub-pet ,and ub-eyelashe.
If anybody is curious, I think this is the rest of it:

1: New Mega Evolutions: Mega Delcatty (Fairy Type), Mega Beartic, Mega Ninjask (Ninjasknite is exclusive to Ultra Sun), Mega Chimecho (Chimechonite is exclusive to Ultra Moon), Mega Farfetch'd (Fighting/Flying Type) and Mega Girafarig (Ice/Psychic)

2 - In Ultra Sun, the elite four is Hala, Olivia, a dragon specialist names Ryuki and a new Ice Type specialist named Nebis.
In Ultra Moon, it is a new Psychic Type specialist named Akira, Ryuki, Acerola and Kahili.

3 - Alolan Oddish is the only new Alolan Form.

4 - Now, Battle Tree looks like a World Tournament (Probably PWT) and it presents even more characters. Option "Final Roun" can let you connect with old games and battle old heroes. You also can build their team from the Hall of Fames of the following games: VC Red and Green, VC Yellow, VC Gold and Silver and also HGSS, ORAS, DPPt, BW and also B2W2 and XY.

5 - There are six new UBs tho two of them are mythical Pokémon.
Bahjakizo is a Fire/Ghost and Codename is UB: Burst
Dibwalln is a Rock/Steel and Codename is UB: Lay
KawaET is a Poison type and Codename is UB: Poison
Jintoburubu is a Ice/Water and Codename is UB: Freeae
Matsugenega is Fairy/Ground and Codename is UB: Eyelashes (Matsuge means Eyelash and Nega means Wish)
Chisakaiju is UB: Pet and is Normal Type. (Literally a kana corruption "Small Monster")

This seems to be the thread that started it, but the OP doesn’t provide any source for the information.

Some problems: If we’re taking the more recent leaks as confirmed, then we know Molayne is one of the Elite Four so it’s wrong about that. And then as I said previously, the TCG seems to imply that there will be only two more UBs, not three. And there’s Megas, lol, not to mention the wank that is the “connect with old games” feature. Plus, crobatair told us that there were talks on the Chinese forums about there being more Alola Forms than just Oddish.

So take all of that for what you will.

Wait, if Zygarde's there... does that mean we're teaming up with Zygarde against Rainbow Rocket? Or is Game Freak just gonna stuff it in some random wormhole? I really hope it's the former, especially since the latter would be worse than not given a proper conclusion to the Zygarde Cell quest.
I think they probably just threw Zygarde on that cover because it’s the counterpart to Rayquaza, Kyurem, and Giratina, not because it’s now got something to do with the wormholes. I don’t see why they wouldn’t simply retain the Cell hunt from SM; it gives the game an extra bit of content and makes use of the existing assets for it.
 
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I can't see how they could only have Alolan Oddish. Surely Alolan Oddish would also require it's evolved forms. Would be very odd to have an Alolan Oddish evolve into a regular ordinary Gloom
 
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I think they probably just threw Zygarde on that cover because it’s the counterpart to Rayquaza, Kyurem, and Giratina, not because it’s now got something to do with the wormholes. I don’t see why they wouldn’t simply retain the Cell hunt from SM; it gives the game an extra bit of content and makes use of the existing assets for it.
Keeping the Cell quest for obtaining it is fine. I'm just wondering if they're going to give it some spotlight in the post-game story and delay the cell quest until the post-game story is done with. At the very least, let us talk to Sina and Dexio one more time after collecting all of the Cells and Cores and tell us why Zygarde is in Alola.

I can't see how they could only have Alolan Oddish. Surely Alolan Oddish would also require it's evolved forms. Would be very odd to have an Alolan Oddish evolve into a regular ordinary Gloom
It'll most likely have Alolan Oddish evolve into Alolan Gloom and have that evolve into Bellossom naturally. They'll probably do something different with evolving into Alolan Vileplume. That's my best guess.
 
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They could keep the Cell quest as it is (maybe change some locations) but make it compulsory to progress in the post-game. So there will come a point during the post-game where you will need to have completed it.
 
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