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Rumours/Fakes/Leaks Discussion Thread (V2)

Remember this leak:
  • Ultra Sun/Moon are like Platinum; most is basically the same but with a few details redone and the store progressing towards Necrozma.
  • Necrozma has been circulating Earth to gather enough energy to go back to Ultra Space, since it was summoned to Earth by accident by AZ thousands of years ago. It has become partially a Pokémon for living on Earth for thousands of years, so it wants to contact it’s co-Ultra Beasts in Ultra Space to invade Earth and make it a part of Ultra Space.
  • Since Solgaleo/Lunala are the only ones that can open portals, Necrozma infects either and controls them against their will to use them to gather all Ultra Beasts to Earth for an invastion.
  • Lillie does not go to Kanto at the end of the game and Lusamine doesn’t end up unconscious.
Gameplay
  • Gyms are now present in the open lots in the original games and are needed to complete the main story.
  • Island Trials are now post-game quests. The Trial sites are still there, excluding Ilima’s trial site which is now on Ten-Carat Hill. The Jungle is now a legendary site for one of the beast trio. Other trials are still there along with Mina and Acerola.
  • The Pokémon that appeared in the trailer (such as Mimikyu and Togedemaru) are not Island Trials, they give exclusive Z-Crystals.
  • Kahuna’s are still in the game and hold their Grand Trials post-game.
  • You’ll have to battle Aether grunts/admins to collect Zygarde Cells and Cores. Collecting these is now required to finish the main story.
  • There’s cutscenes for Zygarde vs Guzzlord, Solgaleo/Lunala vs Necrozma, and Ultra Beasts vs Island Guardians.
  • The Island Guardians will be required to catch through the main story.
  • You will have to defeat Aether Admins on give islands with Ultra Beasts: Faba/Kartana on Melemele, Helga/Pheromosa on Akala, Lest/Xurxitree on Ula Ula, Wicke/Buzzwole on Poni, and Aris/Celesteela in Aether Paradise.
  • The National Dex is present ingame from the start. The original SM dex is expanded.
  • Mega Stones can be bought and move tutors are present in the Battle Frontier.
  • All Aether Admins (except Aris) can be battled post-game, just like Plumeria, Kukui, and Guzma. Gym Leaders and Trial Captains are available in the Battle Tree, Battle Cave, and the Battle Frontier.
Locations
  • There are more places to visit, but no new island. The recurring islands have an expanded layout and have more new areas to explore.
  • Victory Road is expanded through Lanakila Mountain's interior passage.
  • The golf course is now open to public and has a mini golf game with Kahili.
  • The guy from the Fossil Restoration Center has built his park, called Archaic Grove. You can mine for fossils in a cave in it and restore them.
  • Lanakila and the volcano are further expanded with interior maps and Pokémon.
  • There’s a portal to Ultra Space in Resolution Cave and we get to explore more of Ultra Space (an expanded version like the Distortion World).
  • We don’t return to Kalos and the S.S. Anne also doesn’t come back.
  • Most routes and mountains have enhanced background details.
Features
  • There will be a smaller Battle Frontier, which will be similar to the BF of Platinum, only short by two Battle Facilities. It has a Battle Palace, Battle Hall and Battle Park, and also includes Battle Royale. It’s a sort of resort and it will have new characters
  • There will be a Battle Cave added alongside the Battle Tree. It’s exactly like the Battle Tree but is underground and rental battles have returned.
  • Mega Evolution does come back in a sense, in the form of Umbra Evolution. It’s a combination of Z-Moves and Mega Evolution, though Umbra Evolution is only applicable to Solgaleo and Lunala. A specific Z-Crystal which originated from Necrozma is given and activates when the Z-Crystal is twisted. Solgaleo and Lunala then Umbra Evolve into Ultra Solgaleo/Lunala by letting Necrozma attach itself to its host through the Z-Crystal.
  • When Solgaleo and Lunala Umbra Evolve, Prism Armor is distributed to both, stats are upgraded, and they get their own Z-Moves (Ultra Sunsteel Strike and Ultra Moongeist Beam). They must have the moves Unstreel Strike or Moongeist Beam in their moveset to trigger the Z-Crystal.
  • Poké Pelago is now added to the Rotom Dex as an option on the bottom screen, and Rotom replaces the position of Mohn.
  • We can still defend our Champion title.
  • Walking Pokémon does not return.
  • Festival Plaza is not improved aesthetically but more items will be available through it.
  • The Pikachu Park is merely a commemoration for Pikachu. It’s a place where you can leave your Pikachu and its happiness and level will increase once. It’s like a daycare exclusive for Pikachu. There are also minigames you can play in it for items.
  • Customization is further enhanced with more clothing options. There are version exclusive clothes, like a Solgaleo tee for Sun and Lunala tee for Moon. There’s also a few new clothing options similar to past protagonists, like May’s bandana, Red’s FRLG top, Team Aqua/Magma shirt, etc.
  • The Poké Finder has not changed but more Pokémon will appear in certain places that were not native in the original games.
Characters

Changes to Sun/Moon characters:
  • Most character from Sun and Moon are completely similar, except for Lillie, Plumeria, Guzma and Lusamine.
  • Lillie’s role in the game is quite similar, the only difference being that she finds Cosmog herself and hasn’t run away from Aether Paradise with it. You can battle her now, during the main story once with the third starter and an Alolan Vulpix, and again with her full team at the Aether Foundation post-game.
  • Guzma has left Team Skull to Plumeria and is now a Pokémon Trainer on his own. He’s sort of a spy between the two teams.
  • Gladion’s role is exactly the same as it was in the original (part of team skull, runaway from his mother). He gets a redesign and helps you tackle Ultra Beasts in the later game.
  • Mohn now plays a role in the story.
  • Sina and Dexio are undercover for the Aether Foundation and return in their Heroes of Kalos outfits. They’re the ones who help you throughout the Aether Foundation raid and give info on Zygarde and where to get its cores.
  • Ryuki is a Dragon-type user and is the last Gym Leader in the game. He plays in a band with a few other members and disbands it right after you defeat the Gym. He goes solo to challenge the Elite Four after this and you battle him again soon after you defeat the Champion, defending your title. He becoming a Dragon-type Trial Captain postgame.
  • Colress is still in the Battle Tree and retains his role in the main store by giving you Flame Charge. He now stays at the hotel on that route afterwards.
  • Most Gym Leaders are are old Trial Captains.
Returning old character:
  • A new feature called the Battle Cave will feature new returning characters: Eusine, Karen, Zinnia, Steven, Phoebe, Crasher Wake, Cheren, Bianca, Az, and Diantha.
  • Diantha is redesigned with a coat and glasses, and Cheren and Bianca not wear summer outfits. Crasher Wake does not get a redesign.
  • Characters that do not return: Lance, Cyrus.
  • The Elite Four retains the same members, but the League now has a champion, a returning female character.
New characters:
  • The Aether Foundation has some new Admins: Lest, Helga, and Aris. Lest and Helga are twins, one with pink hair and the other with blue hair.
  • One of the Gym Leaders is Petunia, a Bug-type specialist. She’s the second Gym Leader.
  • Another Gym Leader is Akamu, a Ground-type users.
Pokémon
  • The Johto starters don’t get any special treatment.
  • We don’t get starters, but we do get Lugia, Ho-oh and the beast trio post-game.
  • There are no new Megas.
  • Necrozma does not get a third form.
  • Gloom now appears in Lush Jungle, Zorua in Paniola Ranch, Krabby in those sand whirls where Sandygast usually appears.
  • Buizel is in the game.
  • Rare Pokemon such as Dhelmise and Mimikyu are still rare, encounter rates are not changed.
Alola Forms
  • Wobbuffet (Psychic/Ghost). It’s purple in color, with the black thing on its back now completely taking control. The black thing is ‘hugging’ its host.
  • Smoochum/Jynx (Grass/Fairy)
  • Remoraid/Octillery (Water/Fire). Alolan Octillery is a slimmer and taller Octillery with blue and yellow colors. It has fins on the side of its head like the handles of a turret (?). Remoraid is colored red and yellow.
  • Ursaring (Normal/Psychic). It has cape-like fur on its back ans is mainly beige in color, with purple tattoo-like symbols on its chest, like a sort of face.
  • Phanpy (Grass), Donphan (Grass/Steel). Phanpy is colored light yellow, almost faded yellow and has pigtails for ears, which are colored brown with a green tip. Donphan is light green colored with faded gray trunks. It has a huge dent on its back for riders. Its ears are larger than before and half of it is covered in leaves, dragging them across the ground. Alolan Donphan is significantly taller than the regular one.
  • Marill/Azumarill (Water/Psychic). Azumarill is very light blue in color while its tummy and inner ears are light pink. It uses its tail as a ‘staff’ and releases water orbs from it. The tail glows in different light colors.
  • Shuckle (Bug/Grass). Resides in an old green-colored coconut with brown patches. Shuckle itself is colored white. When it retracts its head and arms, vines and leaves fill the coconut holes instead to secure protection.
  • Ponyta/Rapidash (Water). They now have mermaid tails, similar to a Hippocampus, and is used as a Ride Pokémon. It’s also a signature Pokémon.
  • Dunsparce (Dragon/Fairy)
  • There are no other Alola Forms.
It got some credibility with that leaked screenshot. It said that the walking with your Pokemon feature isn't coming back.
Has no credibility to me, because gyms aren't coming back and the screenshot's building looks like a pokefinder-related thing. There is no gym sign and yet there's a shop sign outside, and some obvious camera-related things on the window. Also, they are NOT gonna retcon island trials, which are the core of Alolan culture, into some postgame side thing
 
So I just did this little thing here:
HoqVS8k.png


Comparision with this: http://i.imgur.com/j7zdAX0.png
 
Well, I'm now considering it fake then. And same with all other leaks that say that gyms are coming back.
Well, I mean, gyms can still come back in some form, but:
1. They don't replace the empty lots
2. They are not the main challenge in Alola, maybe some postgame thing somehow, if at all
 
Can you please move Anonymous 4chan Leak and John Gamefreak III Esq. Leaks to the fake leaks section? They said that gyms are coming back and they aren't.
 
Can you please move Anonymous 4chan Leak and John Gamefreak III Esq. Leaks to the fake leaks section? They said that gyms are coming back and they aren't.
While I absolutely agree those leaks are fake, it's technically not right to move them yet since we still don't know what the whole games hold for us, and every real leak always hides fake information in it
 
"Looks like the Hau Plu city empty lot but that aint a gym. Looks like a theater. Fucking empty lots aret gyms, but really an old feature from the past games!
Cinema=Pokestar
Training Dojo=Pokeathlon
Music Hall=Pokemon Musicals
Content Hall for contests
Battle Hall=Battle Frontier
World Tournament Building
And a final new Alola sidequest."

omg this would be so much beter than gyms tbh
 
So are we definitely getting a video tonight (that's what the screenshots are right?)

And it will be at 9 Am in California mid day on the east coast and 5 PM in the UK?
 
Looks like "A New light Shines on Alola!" is going to be VERY literal this time.

I was trying to type in a fake leak on 4chan and this was literally my first sentence when I was writing it, before scrapping it since I'm bad with making things believable.

I could've just posted it and become a creditable leaker
 
So I just did this little thing here:
HoqVS8k.png


Comparision with this: http://i.imgur.com/j7zdAX0.png
Ula Ula has been hit by a major drought, whoa. That could be a cool plot thing, I guess ultra beasts are cauing havoc.


Looks like the new building is Pokefinder related, definitely intrigued now. After a restaurant sidequest, a major revamp to the Pokefinder is excellent. My prediction:
- Pokefinder Clubs all around the region. Sells upgrades, lure tools and special quests are available from NPCs depending on rank.
- All 802 Pokemon or near that many can be phographed.
- Legendaries and Ultra Beasts only found in post game after photo quest being accepted.
- Can be used to find shinies and hidden abilities as well.

I probably an expectinf too much but if there are gonna be 8 different buildings then its gotta be a huge upgrade.
 
THAT ROCKRUFF-


Pokémon following player confirmed?

Also...that place where riyuki is...Gym?

Also,if this will be that trailer for the worlds...many disappointed people xD
 
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