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Rumours/Fakes/Leaks Discussion Thread

Do you like fakes/leaks season?

  • I love it!

    Votes: 227 52.2%
  • Yeah

    Votes: 81 18.6%
  • Doesn't bother me

    Votes: 76 17.5%
  • No

    Votes: 20 4.6%
  • Hate it.

    Votes: 31 7.1%

  • Total voters
    435
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I don't want any kind of form for the starters. One is enough. True, it would be game changing but I rather they keep some traditions and not ditch every single one of them.

Totally fair. To me, it honestly would be the only reason for anyone to believe split ego starters aren't real life. But I'm excited for it. The only thing I'm even a bit clueless to is if they all share the same things. The designs are all super similar as far as the known starters typing. You could make the arguments that certain types make way more sense for the Sun designs, however. Either way, I think the fans will love it even if perception may be cold to them now.
 

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I'm also against version-exclusive split starters, but can't you trade it to your friend to evolve it and then trade it back?

That's assuming its form is based on where it evolves though, not where it's created. So I guess we don't know.
Because some of us might not have a friend we trust enough and/or a friend into Pokemon to do it for us.

It's not fair...? Huh. I mean.. how? Because the version you bought happens to have three separate designs ridiculously easy to obtain in our wireless world? I wish people would look at it more in the way of adding to the total available talent pool than taking away from their game. It only adds content and flavor, not at all subtracting. GameFreak knows people will complain about anything at all, even when more cool features are added to the game. I would be blown away if there is not some in game way once you get post-game to obtain your starters opposite form.
Some of us have a problem with version exclusive evolutions because we want to raise our Pokemon from the start ourselves, not get a "finished" one off the GTS (which might have a stupid nickname we can't change, bad stats/nature/ability, etc.). We would be stuck with an evolution we might not want and without a way to raise the one we want, the way we want.
 

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Because some of us might not have a friend we trust enough and/or a friend into Pokemon to do it for us.


Some of us have a problem with version exclusive evolutions because we want to raise our Pokemon from the start ourselves, not get a "finished" one off the GTS (which might have a stupid nickname we can't change, bad stats/nature/ability, etc.). We would be stuck with an evolution we might not want and without a way to raise the one we want, the way we want.

Thank you for answering my thoughts exactly.

Again, I'd like to emphasize the emotional attachment we have to the starters, which is not shared by any other Pokemon caught. Yes, we can have perfectly bred version of any of them, and all Pokemon in general, but one can't simply trade away your very first Pokemon.

Anyway, this is getting a bit off thread..

I'm a kinda intrigued with the leak the riddler shared.. It seems that the reason why he posted it is because it's partly true.. but the only one that has been partly confirmed was the rugby gorilla, though it got mixed up a bit.. Not part ground, nor a gorilla, but a rugby lemur that is fighting type, which is close enough.

It also mentions that there's no split evo form for the starters. So I'm somewhat inclined to believe it. But then, the other argument about the leaked starter evo being somewhat moon related also makes sense a little. I don't know what to believe anymore. lol
 

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I think for Gen7 starters, split evo is unlikely to happen. Only Z-form or Mega is possible.
Split evos is too difficult to advertise for starters, which are the mascots of a generation.
We already had 3 choices. If you don't wanna one of them, you can choose others.
Why does anime let Ash get all 3 starters in RBY/GS and also Ash and fellows get all starters in other generations?
They don't wanna let children be disappointed by protagonists not using their beloved starters.
If there are split evos, it will be more difficult to balance that.

From the leak of starters' final evos, it seems SM will be the new RBY, in which the fire starter evolved fast into the final stage.
If there were split evos, then those kids who love the other final stage of Litten would say we hate LuchaLitten! we wanna Ash' Litten to evolve into the BadassLitten and then abandon the series..
 

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That tumblr image would be fake anyway. If someone had the access to the Sun starter silhouettes, why would they use the concept art for the Moon starters?

And if it were a Riddler kind of deal, it definitely wouldn't have that much editing.

I know it's proven fake already, but these were just my thoughts since I wasn't here when it was still discussed.
 

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If there were split evos, then those kids who love the other final stage of Litten would say we hate LuchaLitten! we wanna Ash' Litten to evolve into the BadassLitten and then abandon the series..
Why does anime let Ash get all 3 starters in RBY/GS and also Ash and fellows get all starters in other generations?

Ash dosne't fully evolve ALL his starters either. If that would be the case, then ALL children would have abandoned the Johto, and Unova sagas, because Ash did not fully evolve ANY starter at all. Same for the Kalos saga. If children love Delphox and then get Greninja from Ash, then they would leave the series, according to you.

In the anime perspective, its the same, just with more choices.

And I guess this message is more fit for the Pokemon Evolution/Capture/Release thread, instead of Rumors and Leaks.
 

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Did someone see that pokemon Agatha used in Pokemon Generations? that squid like pokemon before Gengar, that lost to Rhydon , it was not : Arbok, Tentacruel, Frillish, Jellicent Malamar or Octilery??? what could it be?

Could that be a new pokemon, alolan form or megaevolution?

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why not having 2 forms one for day one for night? in future both could get megas with type and ability change.
Lets have more choice, you can play on weekends longer or change the clock in your game if you want a diffrent day/night. I think that pokemon moon will be that during day you will have night and during night it will be day, something like that. I think we will be abble to get the forms in both games but you will need to adjust the clock.(maybe they will allow us to set the clock ???)

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If the anime and games would be more acurate with Dragon Tail, moves and abilities it would be better.
I think rather the anime and games are seperate things but they could try to have the same mechanics work better and rather show more better rivals with all starters to better show they potential and powers.
 

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Version exclusive splits for starters just sound bad to me. Like I've said before, you already have to choose between the starters at the beginning of the game. That's your choice of exclusivity right there (at least for the story playthrough) there doesn't need to be further limitations on them by them having version exclusive evolutions too.

I'm still not convinced they will do day/night split forms. As much as I would love them to do it just for the change, I think something relating to Z-Moves or an Ash-Greninja deal is more likely for the starters. That way they get something special without locking people's starters into one or the other. And since Rockruff is version day/night rather than 3DS time day/night I don't think the starters would be different to it, if they were going to do it, so not sure I support it if that's how it will be handled.
 

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Did someone see that pokemon Agatha used in Pokemon Generations? that squid like pokemon before Gengar, that lost to Rhydon , it was not : Arbok, Tentacruel, Frillish, Jellicent Malamar or Octilery??? what could it be?

Could that be a new pokemon, alolan form or megaevolution?
What? It's obviously Arbok..
 

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Is that dolphin rumour credible?

I keep seeing it mentioned like it's a matter of fact but it doesn't seem to be something the Chinese leak or the Riddler mentioned.
 

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That tumblr image would be fake anyway. If someone had the access to the Sun starter silhouettes, why would they use the concept art for the Moon starters?

And if it were a Riddler kind of deal, it definitely wouldn't have that much editing.

I know it's proven fake already, but these were just my thoughts since I wasn't here when it was still discussed.
It was obvious that it was from a fan video. It was obvious that it wasn't the Sun Evolutions but in fact it was fan art. If you want to know how to tell Fan Art from real Pokemon it's absolutely easy. The Fan Art always looks bad.
 

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Is that dolphin rumour credible?

I keep seeing it mentioned like it's a matter of fact but it doesn't seem to be something the Chinese leak or the Riddler mentioned.

I mean the Chinese Leak does speak of a Dolphin Pokemon if the rumor is that there will be a Dolphin Pokemon.

There will be new dolphin, rugby monkey (=Passimian), snowman, sea cucumber (=Pyukumuku), mushroom (=Morelull)
 

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I mean the Chinese Leak does speak of a Dolphin Pokemon if the rumor is that there will be a Dolphin Pokemon.

Woops. I just double checked the Chinese leak and the dolphin is the first one it mentions. Completely missed it.
 

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Another thing from 4chan -
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Link /vp/ - Pokemon SunMoon - Pokémon - 4chan
 

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Another thing from 4chan -
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Link /vp/ - Pokemon SunMoon - Pokémon - 4chan

Thanks for sharing! :) although I'm not sure if its gonna be legit since Tapu Koko's name is sort of like an onomatopoeia sooooo I guess we'll see! Although the information does sound cool
 

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The create-your-own-legaue was taken from the Chinese leak. I also don't see a Water/Fairy Guardian since I see the Guardians matching the types of Oricorio. (Ghost, Psychic, Electric and Fire with all of them with Fairy-type)
 

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The four guardians are almost definitely associated with Electric, Fire, Psychic and Ghost. The island colors and Oricorio forms all but confirm it.

130+ new Pokemon and a 50+ hour story scream fake, too.
I could definitely see the main game being long especially if there's a lot of Trial Captains for every type and Team Skull/Aether Foundation stuff in it, the amount of Pokemon can vary with currently no exact number, the guardians type is most likely based on Oricorio.
 
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