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Rumours/Fakes/Leaks Discussion Thread

Do you like fakes/leaks season?

  • I love it!

    Votes: 227 52.2%
  • Yeah

    Votes: 81 18.6%
  • Doesn't bother me

    Votes: 76 17.5%
  • No

    Votes: 20 4.6%
  • Hate it.

    Votes: 31 7.1%

  • Total voters
    435

Jolty94

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Most of the ones that say stuff about split forms are mostly fake. Oh well can't expect every pokemon to meet your expectations.

I'm only betting on split forms because Rockruff's 'secret' it supposedly shares with the starters, is day/night evolution variation imo. Unless there's some blurred lines I completely missed.
 

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I'm only betting on split forms because Rockruff's 'secret' it supposedly shares with the starters, is day/night evolution variation imo. Unless there's some blurred lines I completely missed.
From what I heard from legit translators, nothing really links them together. Corocoro just went like "Hey Rockruff has a secret. Oh yeah the starters have one too.". Didn't say it exactly like that, but that's basically what they said. So nothing really points towards day and night evos as of now, other than these apparent "secrets" were bought up at the same time.
 

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From what I heard from legit translators, nothing really links them together. Corocoro just went like "Hey Rockruff has a secret. Oh yeah the starters have one too.". Didn't say it exactly like that, but that's basically what they said. So nothing really points towards day and night evos as of now, other than these apparent "secrets" were bought up at the same time.

The entire page when it leaked that month had them all together, and they stated that the starters and Rockruff shared a secret. It could be either or. I get what you're saying as it could be something completely irrelevant to them both, but why link them so closely if nothing will come of it?
 

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I guess the starters' secret is Z-Forms. Or it could be as simple as time-based evolutions.
 

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The entire page when it leaked that month had them all together, and they stated that the starters and Rockruff shared a secret. It could be either or. I get what you're saying as it could be something completely irrelevant to them both, but why link them so closely if nothing will come of it?
Cause corocoro is known for overhyping, especially when we know something like split final forms won't come out in corocoro before the games release. And we know Type: Null is going to be the main focus next issue. While I still accept the possibility for split forms mainly because it'd be interesting, it looks like it might not be the case as of now. Not only that, if it was, we can't guarantee that the alternate designs are any better then the ones we know now, especially if they take Rockruff's route of split forms when there's not too big of difference between them.
 
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It's definitely possible that we'd get split evolutions for the starters, particularly with what Desdar300 has brought to light with the translation of the second quote, but it's still best not to rely on it. For now, treat the concept art starters as the only final evolutions that the starters have for certain, feel free to speculate on them having forms (and personally, I do hope they have it), but don't assume for certain that they will come to pass.

Now about Z-forms, while I'm not the biggest fan of the idea, I'm surprised that they haven't gotten around to talking about it yet. After Z-Moves were revealed, I was pretty sure they'd follow not too long after since they would've had enough time to let the concept sink in before revealing the next step of it, yet they've been abnormally quiet about it for the past two months. Even with Ash-Greninja we haven't gotten much on it other then the "Bond Phenomenon" thing, and even that was just a name and it being special. I'm wondering when they're going to go into detail about it as I'm sure a big mechanic like that they wouldn't keep in their pocket until release, but they're starting to cut it kind of close since we're almost a month away.
 

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The two Lycanrocs are pretty wildly different in my opinion; enough to merit being different pokemon



Neither am I
Try to recolor midnight form to midday's coloring and make his eyes blue instead of red, and they'd look like the same pokemon accept one is standing on two legs. They got the same body shape and face, just different colors and white fur things.
 

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Try to recolor midnight form to midday's coloring and make his eyes blue instead of red, and they'd look like the same pokemon accept one is standing on two legs.
Ignoring the colors and the fact one is bipedal and other is not, here are some other differences:

- Midnight Lycanroc has clearly bigger front paws.
- The positioning of rocks on their body is completely different. On Midday form they are larger and form the shape of sun around its neck whereas in Midnight form they are much smaller and placed far below the neck.
- The fur on Midnight Lycanroc's head forms a crescent shape which is a huge difference from Midday Lycanroc.
- Midday Lycanroc has a bushy tail whereas Midnight Lycanroc has a significantly smaller tail.
 

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It was obvious that it was from a fan video. It was obvious that it wasn't the Sun Evolutions but in fact it was fan art. If you want to know how to tell Fan Art from real Pokemon it's absolutely easy. The Fan Art always looks bad.

...There was no fanart in that image. There were only silhouettes. How can you even tell anything from silhouettes, and cropped silhouettes and that.

I was only speaking as if it had been a gray case. Of course it's fake.

Ignoring the colors and the fact one is bipedal and other is not, here are some other differences:

- Midnight Lycanroc has clearly bigger front paws.
- The positioning of rocks on their body is completely different. On Midday form they are larger and form the shape of sun around its neck whereas in Midnight form they are much smaller and placed far below the neck.
- The fur on Midnight Lycanroc's head forms a crescent shape which is a huge difference from Midday Lycanroc.
- Midday Lycanroc has a bushy tail whereas Midnight Lycanroc has a significantly smaller tail.

Exactly. I've drawn both, so I've noticed these things as well. Midday and Midnight forms are, pun intended, different as night and day.

Also, sorry about the double post, but I literally just cannot get the multiquote thing to work.
 
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Zeb

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It's definitely possible that we'd get split evolutions for the starters, particularly with what Desdar300 has brought to light with the translation of the second quote, but it's still best not to rely on it. For now, treat the concept art starters as the only final evolutions that the starters have for certain, feel free to speculate on them having forms (and personally, I do hope they have it), but don't assume for certain that they will come to pass.

Now about Z-forms, while I'm not the biggest fan of the idea, I'm surprised that they haven't gotten around to talking about it yet. After Z-Moves were revealed, I was pretty sure they'd follow not too long after since they would've had enough time to let the concept sink in before revealing the next step of it, yet they've been abnormally quiet about it for the past two months. Even with Ash-Greninja we haven't gotten much on it other then the "Bond Phenomenon" thing, and even that was just a name and it being special. I'm wondering when they're going to go into detail about it as I'm sure a big mechanic like that they wouldn't keep in their pocket until release, but they're starting to cut it kind of close since we're almost a month away.

Well they didn't reveal exclusive Z-moves until this month. So it seems like they could be going for a slow drip feed rather than just dropping it all on us at once. Aug - Z-Moves itself, Sept - exclusive Z-Moves, October - Maybe they will cover Z-moves that cause certain form changes? I'm sure the Chinese leak is right about Ash-Greninja being in the game with the amount of other things it has right and knowing what we know about Z-Moves the big Water Shuriken move it has should end up a Z-Move for Greninja.

I just hope the forms aren't too over the top. I don't like Ash-Greninja (or the concept of the whole "synchro" lark) at all and I don't particularly want my Pokemon to grow hair out of their face and other such things when I want to use their moves. People can say ignore it but if I want to use their exclusive Z-Moves then it'd be hard to.
 

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...There was no fanart in that image. There were only silhouettes. How can you even tell anything from silhouettes, and cropped silhouettes and that.

I was only speaking as if it had been a gray case. Of course it's fake.
Wait so silhouettes of fan art is not fan art?
 

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...There was no fanart in that image. There were only silhouettes. How can you even tell anything from silhouettes, and cropped silhouettes and that.

I was only speaking as if it had been a gray case. Of course it's fake.



Exactly. I've drawn both, so I've noticed these things as well. Midday and Midnight forms are, pun intended, different as night and day.

Also, sorry about the double post, but I literally just cannot get the multiquote thing to work.
I can tell that's fanart, cause I saw them on deviantart. I recognize the shapes.
 

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The two Lycanrocs are pretty wildly different in my opinion; enough to merit being different pokemon
Except that they are not different pokemon. They are the same. Just two different forms of Lycanroc. As for starters, I don't mind if the evolutions are not reveal until after the games are released.
 

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If this:
Aug - Z-Moves
Sep - Exclusive Z-Moves
Oct - Z-Forms

Then:
Nov - ??? (I hope that they reveal a big mystery for us to ponder till the 18th/23rd)
 

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I mentioned the riddler leak to a youtuber, and he made video on it. There is a lot of interesting interpretations in the comments.
aDrive, is the youtuber.
 

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I don't want to sound like a profane donkey, but the fact that you have to pose Popplio and Rockruff in such an unnatural way (you even have to flip its ears up) in a state where most players won't even see them like that, to get their proposed alchemical symbols to even vaguely resemble them, just seems really stretchy.

Not to mention that it loses most of its steam when they all evolve, as Rowlet becomes a defined shape and Popplio's ears either sink into its body or are hidden, as well as the fact you'd probably have to break several of Lycanroc Midday's bones just to get it into the elemental pose.
 
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