i agree i'm loving all the new designs they actually have originality and life to them!!!People say this every gen, and it never ends up being true. Game Freak is if anything growing more and more creative with their designs each passing generation.
I don't think Eevee has ever been version exclusive. In games where it was available, you always picked up one and then evolved it into one of 3 (now 8) forms depending on the game you were playing (or if you wanted to even use one in the first place).rockruff's evo are version exclusive similar to Eevee's.
I can't see why its such a hassle for people not to breed/train their starters' final evolutionary forms in their respective versions and trade with someone else that has the opposite in today's society? Sure, in the NDS and earlier days, trading was a hassle, I agree, but these days, with the N3DS, this should be a thing of the past. No longer does someone need to get outside literally and trade. They can do all their stuff right in their very homes through the internet.
(of course, it sucks for those that don't have/or don't use the internet)
But some people hold sentiments with the starters. A player is mostly Forms a 'bond' or an emotional attachment with their starter Pokemon.
The players want to raise their OWN Pokemon and not get their fully evolved/trained/bred stage from the GTS. They want to see it grow before their own eyes. This is the spirit which encourages players to keep their starter at comparatively higher level than the others.
So, if people raise their starter Pokemon, they should have full right to control its evolution.
The best way to do split starters, if we get them at all, is to do a Day Form and a Night Form. Makes no sense for them to be tied to Secret ID like Wurmple is and definitely not country of origin like Vivillon is.One thing it makes an enourmous difference about this Version Exclusive evo is: How it works. Is the evolution result triggered by game of origin (like Wurmple, for exemple, whose evolution is fixed anyway, and you can't change if it will evolves to Cascoon or Silcoon), or will it be triggered by the game of evolution (like Vivilion, whose pattern depends of the game it is evolved on)
In the first case, for the starters I feel it is bad, you will not be able to get that form with your ID/OT, will not be able to evolve your own starter to that form. But in the second case (that is what I am hoping for), if I own moon and trade it to a friend with sun, they could evolve me the form I want. And it will still have my ID/OT and stuff. Althought I don't like Version Exclusive evolution, in this second case it will be not that hard for people to get the form they want.
That's not what I said. I compared them to Wurmple and Vivilion, but not in the means of evolution but how it was defined to which form/pokémon it evolved in the case of them being Version Exclusives.The best way to do split starters, if we get them at all, is to do a Day Form and a Night Form. Makes no sense for them to be tied to Secret ID like Wurmple is and definitely not country of origin like Vivillon is.
Umm...not really. The translation states they don't share the secret in terms of differences, but its still very possible for the secret itself to be the same in nature, just with differences between them and Rockruff. As such, I expect, for the starters, who have two evolutionary stages at all times, they will have type changes to reflect the Day or Night theme.
Rockruff had no type change, because he was more or less, I think, a preview for the starter's true power, being the first to demonstrate the concept of "Version Exclusive Evolutions", which is pretty much a new Evolution Method added to the many we already have.
Differences between Rockruff and the Starters' secret:
Rockruff:
1. Has one Evo (for what we know so far)
2. Does not change or gain a additional type
The Starters:
1. Each Alolan Starters has two evolutionary stages
2. May change/gain a additional type to their primary one
There you have their differences, yet the secret they have, is the same, but is not shared because of said differences. Also, I tend to believe this rumor as true, because if anyone paid attention to this E3's Treehouse Live segment, Gamefreak mentioned that the reason they picked the titles "Sun" and "Moon" was because of Alola having a life-theme/being full of life. Now, what is Life associated with a lot? Evolution. And Rockruff, I believe, was just serving to be a preview for the Starters' hidden evolutionary power.
I think you might be looking to far into it. To limit one pokemon's potential to make the starters look better in comparison seems unlikely. I'm pretty the the biggest difference between the form would be just looks abilities and stats.
If you ever seen TheOneIntegral's theory video about the theme of Sun and Moon being beat vs humanoid, making the concept starters we see as the moon version forms, and the sun version forms being more beastial, or in which case 80% percent of the communities personal tastes in pokemon. Last night I actually did come up with designs for the supposed beastial forms last night, and while I personally think they don't have nearly as much personality as the concepts, these are probably what you would expect from sun version forms.
View: http://imgur.com/a/pDUUD
I think you might be looking to far into it. To limit one pokemon's potential to make the starters look better in comparison seems unlikely. I'm pretty the the biggest difference between the form would be just looks abilities and stats.
If you ever seen TheOneIntegral's theory video about the theme of Sun and Moon being beat vs humanoid, making the concept starters we see as the moon version forms, and the sun version forms being more beastial, or in which case 80% percent of the communities personal tastes in pokemon. Last night I actually did come up with designs for the supposed beastial forms last night, and while I personally think they don't have nearly as much personality as the concepts, these are probably what you would expect from sun version forms.
View: http://imgur.com/a/pDUUD
It was suppose to be a jester themed sea lion.Popplio3 Midday form looks more like it's dressed up at night going to sleep. Suitable for a Midnight form.
And these forms look fit for a mid-evo, not final. Props for the effort and creativity.
"Vivillon" case: The Starter will evolve to the form of the version it evolved on. Exemple: Popplio was catch in Moon, and it will evolve to Moon form if you don't trade it, but if it was trade to a Sun version, it will evolve to Sun form there. The form will be tied to where it evolved, like Vivillon patterns that are definited by the country of the game it evolved on, and non from the game it originated from.
It was suppose to be a jester themed sea lion.
Meh I had a feeling this is what people wanted, but staying in the realms of being recognizable as the same pokemonI got that, but the pyjama idea seems fitting too, now that I think about it.
The design seemed a bit underdesigned to me, though. Which is still way better than overdesigned, but it did seem a bit... nondescript. Don't get me wrong though, the silhouette was good.
Meh I had a feeling this is what people wanted, but staying in the realms of being recognizable as the same pokemon