Rumours/Fakes/Leaks Discussion Thread

[ijustwantleakpics]

Anyone know what the character on the red x is?

 

[GojiWright]

I'm really curious about the hint about Lunala's dex number. Which was the hint given?

Might be back a few pages ago, but Lunala might be (possibly, not sure) 820 from the dimension sizes of an image (which I don't remember where it is. (But take that part with a grain of salt, we could have 80-100, it's unsure if he was hinting at 100 with the dimensions of the picture)

 

[StephenNParker]

I'm not gonna post what he said, just his analysis. Maybe you will know something from there.

Kanto:​

Normal: 22(14. 6); Fighting: 8(5. 3); Flying: 19(12. 6);

Poison: 33(21. 9); Ground: 14(9. 3); Rock: 11(7. 3);

Bug: 12(7. 9); Ghost: 3(2. 0); Steel: 2(1. 3);

Fire: 12(7. 9); Water: 32(21. 2); Grass: 14(9. 3);

Electric: 9(6. 0); Psychic: 14(9. 3); Ice: 5(3. 3);

Dragon: 3(2. 0); Dark: 0(0); Fairy: 5(3. 3).

Johto​

Normal: 15(15. 0); Fighting: 3(3. 0); Flying: 19(19. 0);

Poison: 4(4. 0); Ground: 10(10. 0); Rock: 7(7. 0);

Bug: 10(10. 0); Ghost: 1(1. 0); Steel: 4(4. 0);

Fire: 10(10. 0); Water: 18(18. 0); Grass: 10(10. 0);

Electric: 8(8. 0); Psychic: 10(10. 0); Ice: 5(5. 0);

Dragon: 1(1. 0); Dark: 6(6. 0); Fairy: 8(8. 0).

Hoen (37/135 = 27% Pokemon reveal before release)​

Normal: 18(12. 8); Fighting: 7(5. 0); Flying: 12(8. 5);

Poison: 5(3. 5); Ground: 13(9. 2); Rock: 12(8. 5);

Bug: 14(9. 9); Ghost: 6(4. 3); Steel: 9(6. 4);

Fire: 7(5. 0); Water: 29(20. 6); Grass: 17(12. 1);

Electric: 4(2. 8); Psychic: 23(16. 3); Ice: 7(5. 0);

Dragon: 9(6. 4); Dark: 10(7. 1); Fairy: 5(3. 5).

​

Sinnoh (31/107 = 29%)​

Normal: 17(12. 8); Fighting: 8(6. 0); Flying: 17(12. 8);

Poison: 9(6. 8); Ground: 12(9. 0); Rock: 8(6. 0);

Bug: 12(9. 0); Ghost: 10(7. 5); Steel: 13(9. 8);

Fire: 7(5. 3); Water: 16(12. 0); Grass: 17(12. 8);

Electric: 13(9. 8); Psychic: 10(7. 5); Ice: 8(6. 0);

Dragon: 8(6. 0); Dark: 8(6. 0); Fairy: 3(2. 3).

Unova (50/156 = 32%)​

Normal: 18(11. 0); Fighting: 16(9. 8); Flying: 21(12. 9);

Poison: 7(4. 3); Ground: 12(7. 4); Rock: 10(6. 1);

Bug: 18(11. 0); Ghost: 9(5. 5); Steel: 12(7. 4);

Fire: 16(9. 8); Water: 17(10. 4); Grass: 20(12. 3);

Electric: 12(7. 4); Psychic: 16(9. 8); Ice: 9(5. 5);

Dragon: 12(7. 4); Dark: 16(9. 8); Fairy: 2(1. 2).

Kalos (41/72 = 57%)​

Normal: 8+4(10. 8+8. 0); Fighting: 4+7(5. 4+14. 0); Flying: 8+6(10. 8+12. 0);

Poison: 2+3(2. 7+6. 0); Ground: 2+5(2. 7+10. 0); Rock: 8+3(10. 8+6. 0);

Bug: 3+4(4. 1+8. 0); Ghost: 9+3(12. 2+6. 0); Steel: 4+6(5. 4+12. 0);

Fire: 8+6(10. 8+12. 0); Water: 9+6(12. 2+12. 0); Grass: 9+3(12. 2+6. 0);

Electric: 3+2(4. 1+4. 0); Psychic: 7+10(9. 5+20. 0); Ice: 4+2(5. 4+4. 0);

Dragon: 9+9(12. 2+18. 0); Dark: 6+6(8. 1+12. 0); Fairy: 14+5(18. 9+10. 0).

ORAS (100% mega evolution reveal)​

Normal: 6/8+4/4; Fighting: 2/4+5/7; Flying: 5/8+4/6; Poison: 1/2+3/3; Ground: 0/2+5/5; Rock: 4/8+2/3;

Bug: 3/3+1/4; Ghost: 2/9+2/3; Steel: 2/4+5/6; Fire: 5/8+5/6; Water: 4/9+5/6; Grass: 4/9+2/3;

Electric: 2/3+1/2; Psychic: 3/7+7/10; Ice: 2/4+1/2; Dragon: 3/9+9/9; Dark: 4/6+4/6; Fairy: 8/14+4/5.

Alola​

Normal: 5; Fighting: 1; Flying: 2; Poison: 1; Ground: 1; Rock: 1;

Bug: 5; Ghost: 2; Steel: 3; Fire: 2; Water: 3; Grass: 2;

Electric: 4; Psychic: 3; Ice: 0; Dragon: 1; Dark: 0; Fairy: 5.

​

 

[fireredburn1]

Why did he add a flame beside the toucan's box and a cross to the right of Magearna? Are those new Pokemons?

 

[StephenNParker]

Anyone know what the character on the red x is?

It's 封, mean ban/envelop etc.
封 - Chinese (s) to English Translation

 

[Ablaze]

Why did he add a flame beside the toucan's box and a cross to the right of Magearna? Are those new Pokemons?

Yes most probably. A fiery lava Pokemon I guess.
I can't say about the cross though. I don't know what is written on the cross.
Edit: Apparently it means ban/envelop. Thanks @ErikNguyen912

 

[Absolclaw]

R

It's 封, mean ban/envelop etc.
封 - Chinese (s) to English Translation

So we're getting a banhammer Pokemon? Awesome.

 

[Ablaze]

R


So we're getting a banhammer Pokemon? Awesome.

It may also be an Ultra Beast.

 

[Kevzo8]

Summary of Riddle's post:

1. Yuki and Rin riddle are about Silvally, it's just his own thought so it's hard to understand.
2. The monk staff is Kommo-o.
3. He said the image of toucan are what it will look like in game.
4. Explain those bottom Pokemon in his chart: colored Pokemon are Pokemon appear in news by someways, faded Pokemon are Pokemon appear in advertising like an accessory, etc.
5. He already hint the ordering number of Lunala in Pokedex.
6. Making a bet will GF make the same mistake in demo again.

So the riddler said it himself, it's Silvally for yuki and rin and the more obvious monk staff for jangmo line..

I don't get the toucan part though.. What it will look like in the game? Which image? The shirt or the flame? The shirt has the very generic toucan sketch though..and what's the hint with lunala dex no? I find these lines very vague..

So all these thoughts are from the riddler right? I really hope that they make the mistake too, I love spoilers. Lol

Anyway, there's a demo for yokai watch too. I wonder.. Has anyone datamined it? Though the yokais there are already revealed in Japanese, I don't think their English names have been revealed. It'd be a nice comparison if they commit the same mistakes.

 

[Jackalantyrn]

I'm not gonna post what he said, just his analysis. Maybe you will know something from there.

Kanto:​

Normal: 22(14. 6); Fighting: 8(5. 3); Flying: 19(12. 6);

Poison: 33(21. 9); Ground: 14(9. 3); Rock: 11(7. 3);

Bug: 12(7. 9); Ghost: 3(2. 0); Steel: 2(1. 3);

Fire: 12(7. 9); Water: 32(21. 2); Grass: 14(9. 3);

Electric: 9(6. 0); Psychic: 14(9. 3); Ice: 5(3. 3);

Dragon: 3(2. 0); Dark: 0(0); Fairy: 5(3. 3).

Johto​

Normal: 15(15. 0); Fighting: 3(3. 0); Flying: 19(19. 0);

Poison: 4(4. 0); Ground: 10(10. 0); Rock: 7(7. 0);

Bug: 10(10. 0); Ghost: 1(1. 0); Steel: 4(4. 0);

Fire: 10(10. 0); Water: 18(18. 0); Grass: 10(10. 0);

Electric: 8(8. 0); Psychic: 10(10. 0); Ice: 5(5. 0);

Dragon: 1(1. 0); Dark: 6(6. 0); Fairy: 8(8. 0).

Hoen (37/135 = 27% Pokemon reveal before release)​

Normal: 18(12. 8); Fighting: 7(5. 0); Flying: 12(8. 5);

Poison: 5(3. 5); Ground: 13(9. 2); Rock: 12(8. 5);

Bug: 14(9. 9); Ghost: 6(4. 3); Steel: 9(6. 4);

Fire: 7(5. 0); Water: 29(20. 6); Grass: 17(12. 1);

Electric: 4(2. 8); Psychic: 23(16. 3); Ice: 7(5. 0);

Dragon: 9(6. 4); Dark: 10(7. 1); Fairy: 5(3. 5).

​

Sinnoh (31/107 = 29%)​

Normal: 17(12. 8); Fighting: 8(6. 0); Flying: 17(12. 8);

Poison: 9(6. 8); Ground: 12(9. 0); Rock: 8(6. 0);

Bug: 12(9. 0); Ghost: 10(7. 5); Steel: 13(9. 8);

Fire: 7(5. 3); Water: 16(12. 0); Grass: 17(12. 8);

Electric: 13(9. 8); Psychic: 10(7. 5); Ice: 8(6. 0);

Dragon: 8(6. 0); Dark: 8(6. 0); Fairy: 3(2. 3).

Unova (50/156 = 32%)​

Normal: 18(11. 0); Fighting: 16(9. 8); Flying: 21(12. 9);

Poison: 7(4. 3); Ground: 12(7. 4); Rock: 10(6. 1);

Bug: 18(11. 0); Ghost: 9(5. 5); Steel: 12(7. 4);

Fire: 16(9. 8); Water: 17(10. 4); Grass: 20(12. 3);

Electric: 12(7. 4); Psychic: 16(9. 8); Ice: 9(5. 5);

Dragon: 12(7. 4); Dark: 16(9. 8); Fairy: 2(1. 2).

Kalos (41/72 = 57%)​

Normal: 8+4(10. 8+8. 0); Fighting: 4+7(5. 4+14. 0); Flying: 8+6(10. 8+12. 0);

Poison: 2+3(2. 7+6. 0); Ground: 2+5(2. 7+10. 0); Rock: 8+3(10. 8+6. 0);

Bug: 3+4(4. 1+8. 0); Ghost: 9+3(12. 2+6. 0); Steel: 4+6(5. 4+12. 0);

Fire: 8+6(10. 8+12. 0); Water: 9+6(12. 2+12. 0); Grass: 9+3(12. 2+6. 0);

Electric: 3+2(4. 1+4. 0); Psychic: 7+10(9. 5+20. 0); Ice: 4+2(5. 4+4. 0);

Dragon: 9+9(12. 2+18. 0); Dark: 6+6(8. 1+12. 0); Fairy: 14+5(18. 9+10. 0).

ORAS (100% mega evolution reveal)​

Normal: 6/8+4/4; Fighting: 2/4+5/7; Flying: 5/8+4/6; Poison: 1/2+3/3; Ground: 0/2+5/5; Rock: 4/8+2/3;

Bug: 3/3+1/4; Ghost: 2/9+2/3; Steel: 2/4+5/6; Fire: 5/8+5/6; Water: 4/9+5/6; Grass: 4/9+2/3;

Electric: 2/3+1/2; Psychic: 3/7+7/10; Ice: 2/4+1/2; Dragon: 3/9+9/9; Dark: 4/6+4/6; Fairy: 8/14+4/5.

Alola​

Normal: 5; Fighting: 1; Flying: 2; Poison: 1; Ground: 1; Rock: 1;

Bug: 5; Ghost: 2; Steel: 3; Fire: 2; Water: 3; Grass: 2;

Electric: 4; Psychic: 3; Ice: 0; Dragon: 1; Dark: 0; Fairy: 5.

​

I think he is just showing that gradually more and more pokemon have been released for each game before the game launched. I doubt we will see 100% revealed but perhaps 80% goin off kalos.

Is driving anyone else nuts that alola persian has not been released? There has to be a reason for it. Everything else showed almost immediately, so why hasn't persian? Does he have a secret that no one knows?

 

[Tente]

It's 封, mean ban/envelop etc.
封 - Chinese (s) to English Translation

So we're getting a banhammer Pokemon? Awesome.

It may also be an Ultra Beast.

Don't know if it's relevant but a red cross with that character on it is the Japanese animation for the move Imprison, right

 

[Soki]

Do you think we should update all his quick hint too? Like he just said something about Pokemon league and Olivia.

1 and 2 are about Salandit and starter. You already updated it in OP.
3 is about Pokemon hiding in Lillie's bag. He said that Pokemon in his updated chart.
4. He said that name of one of three Tapu left can be found in the design of Type: Null. It doesn't mean Type:Null and Tapu have any relation.
5 and 6 are in this post

Were 3 to 6 also said by him or Oct. 10 or recently?

So if I understand correctly:
3. The Pokémon hiding in Lillie's bag can be found on his Pokémon chart.
4. The name of one of the three Tapu's can be found in the design of Type: Null. This doesn't mean that Type: Null and the Tapu are related in any way.
5. Olivia's identity is exactly the same as someone else (so her being a Kahuna just like Hala is not enough to answer this riddle).
6. Who are forming the E4? Who is the Champion and how many are there?

Do correct me if I got something wrong here. I'll add the points in your recent summary of the Riddler's post too. Thanks for keeping us up to date with this stuff

Also, a question to everyone here: The pictures in the Gummy Leaks don't work anymore (probably because the 4chan thread seems to have been deleted) and I forgot to save the pictures Does anyone still have the pictures of the drawings somewhere so I can fix it?

 

[Tente]

4. The name of one of the three Tapu's can be found in the design of Type: Null. This doesn't mean that Type: Null and the Tapu are related in any way.

Tapu Nuru Nuru (lol)

I'm drawing up blanks on this one lol but I feel like when we all know the Tapu's names we'll be like "oh"

Or maybe not, I'm kind of disappointed the one about that actress and the character from Darker Than Black didn't make a lot of sense on my end

 

[BlindCaptainDrip]

I've been high on Azoth/Null connection of late, and I feel the Aristotle Mon will end up being a final evo/form/Mega of Silvally. This is due to the fact that although Paracelsus is credited with classification of first four (earth, fire, air, water) it was Aristotle who theorized the fifth and final necessary for Azoth; Aether. Aristotle was also credited for the first concepts of memory imprints, which would be a very neat tie in to the memory items used to alter it's typing.

I think Marshadow has a direct link to Azoth as well (as far as his clue concerns). Most pertinent quote to that clue via a very detailed explanation of Azoth:

Between legs of the alchemist dangles the Cubic Stone, which is labeled Corpus (meaning “body”). The five stars surrounding it indicate that the body also contains the hidden Fifth Element, the invisible Quintessence whose “inherent strength is perfected if it is turned into Earth” in the words of the Emerald Tablet

I do not currently have a detailed theory of what that would equate to, but really to me feels like a synthetic being achieving ascension, then descending back in a theoretically perfect form. I believe it will be linked closely to Zygarde. I'm feeling Zygarde cells are synonymous with vitriol.

I have attached the chart with the box and 5 stars to the post for your own perception. Source site:
The Seven Operations of Alchemy

Edit: Alla Persian/Breeding Cat. Quite frankly, I'm of the (extremely) unpopular opinion Giovanni returns, and that may be hold out for Persian AND Alola Nidos.

 

[Ablaze]

Also, a question to everyone here: The pictures in the Gummy Leaks don't work anymore (probably because the 4chan thread seems to have been deleted) and I forgot to save the pictures Does anyone still have the pictures of the drawings somewhere so I can fix it?

This is all I could find on the internet. Could not find Alolan Clefable, sorry about that.

 

[Zweilous]

Might be back a few pages ago, but Lunala might be (possibly, not sure) 820 from the dimension sizes of an image (which I don't remember where it is. (But take that part with a grain of salt, we could have 80-100, it's unsure if he was hinting at 100 with the dimensions of the picture)

Yeah, it was post 449 on this page, and the image on it was this:

I guess we could analyze the post and see what he said to better guess what he meant, it's definitely worth a shot.

 

[Esiouqrut]

A little bit late, but here's my thought on why that Darker than Black protag and Nakama Yukie is Silvally:

From what I read here, it seems that the protag develops emotion as the story progress, and so does Type: Null who evolve when it found a trustworthy (an emotion) partner. Nakama is a Japanese word for comrade(s), in this case, it's Silvally's partner.
So, in conclusion, Type: Null is evolving to Silvally because it develop a trust (emotion) to it's partner (nakama).

I dunno why, but Olivia reminds me of Olympia from Kalos. Idk, maybe it's just thier name. :/

 

[Absolclaw]

Looking at that recent Riddler image, are the pictures of the four different women (next to Salandit) supposed to indicate that each Oricario form gets an evolution? Or is this potentially a different group of four instead maybe

 

[Ablaze]

Another fake leak I found today. It is dated 14th Oct 2016. Artwork very similar to the Gummy leaks.
The image can be magnified to see the text.
Source - /vp/ - Are they real - Pokémon - 4chan

Spoiler

 

[Esiouqrut]

Looking at that recent Riddler image, are the pictures of the four different women (next to Salandit) supposed to indicate that each Oricario form gets an evolution? Or is this potentially a different group of four instead maybe

Salandit's evo is supposedly based on one of those 4 pictures: Kyuubi, Cleopatra, Medusa, or Siren.