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Rumours/Fakes/Leaks Discussion Thread

Do you like fakes/leaks season?

  • I love it!

    Votes: 227 52.2%
  • Yeah

    Votes: 81 18.6%
  • Doesn't bother me

    Votes: 76 17.5%
  • No

    Votes: 20 4.6%
  • Hate it.

    Votes: 31 7.1%

  • Total voters
    435

canisaries

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I guess that i found something HUGE

9pT8DBTh.jpg

An italian youtuber showed this pic in a video,and he said that he got a pic from one of is followers saying that this pic got quickly deleted from 4Chan,and the chat was on the video (sorry if this image is cropped,but other chat with names were on the screen so...i did this for privacy :c).

But the style...it's the SAME of the final leaked evolution

As absolutely kickass that design is, the drawings look a bit wonky and the front view doesn't look symmetrical enough. The starfish are also drawn differently.
 

MallowBloomDoom

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The fake popplio3 pic doesn't look clean and smooth around the edges was one of the obvious giveaways on the pic signing part we know Sugimori and co deleted people's tweets of the sent leaks images but they obviously know people know they're real and accept it funny that Musuda thinking in his mind to be prepare to find out the the secret everyone might not know which I'm definitely looking foward to.
 

Nintendokusou

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Ah, for me, I thought 50% form is based on Jörmungandr, and it's an example of the Ouroborus, which represents infinity and immortality, not to say, it also happens that the Ouroboros has a connection with alchemy as well. The idea of the beginning and the end as being a continuous unending principle. This concept might be shown off in battle with it's transforming when it's health reaches 50% or below, when you switch it out, it reverts back to its original form and you can start the process again. Well, that was my guess on how it's ability works

How does Complete Zygarde fit into this? Not only is it's based off of Hel, but it's design still gains many aspects that were found in the 50% form, such as the chest-plate eyes, a tail, the red and blue appendages forms into snakes, and it's cry sounds like a higher pitched version of 50% form in the Sun and Moon trailers. Also, there is a reason why in Japan it's called "Perfect Zygarde". The crown-like head is mostly the main control of the whole body. It has some sort of a third hexagonal shaped eye while the other two eyes don't have any pupils. It's as if 50% transformed into a perfect, ascended form. Even if the dog can transform into this, it felt better that 50% can transform.

First of all, although I give some credit to the Norse ideas because I thought they made sense at first too, I gotta say that Yveltal, Xerneas and Zygarde can all be explained with just alchemy and related concepts, you don't even need to bring Norse mythology into it if you don't want to.
You are right that 50% represents the Ouroboros and the cycles of nature and seasons on Earth, therefore Order, Infinity, Immortality, etc., because the cycle endlessly repeats itself over time and never ends. It also connects to aether in that sense, since it is a balance of the four elements in harmony, and balance is necessary to maintain the cycle, hence why Zygarde keeps "the Order".
To me, the other formes can be explained in the following ways.
The Cells seem to be a reference to the life force that exists in everything in nature.
The Cores are Red and Blue, representing the Ida and Pingala serpents, the watery inactive female energies and the fiery active male energies.
Both Cells and Cores are basically Planarian Worms, which are essentially immortal since they have amazing regenerative capabilities, and if you cut or divide them, each of the parts will just become its own individual or even meld back together, while retaining the memories and experiences of when it was whole. Moreover, their mouths are generally located around the region where the Zygarde Cores have their core, and all individuals are hermaphrodites, male and female at the same time. There are a few species who can do photosynthesis like the Red Zygarde Core, and some species who have a greenish coloration too. Finally, most of them can be found in dark and wet places, which the Terminus Cave seems to be.
Then 10% forme could be a reference to the dog and wolf symbolism of alchemy, since the Red Core can represent the metal antimony and the chaotic forces of nature of the wolf, while the Blue Core can represent the metal mercury and the benevolent forces of nature of the dog. Together they make the complete forces of nature.
The Perfect Forme is the hardest to explain, but could technically be the three-headed dragon, which sometimes represents the Philosopher's Stone itself, or in this case the body made spiritual and the spirit made corporeal, explaining the human-like shape. The "serpents" on each of its sides are a reference to each core, which you can understand above already, I guess. They can also be seen forming the other two heads besides the central one in various footage, and represent something equivalent to the two snakes on each side of the Caduceus staff or the Ida and Pingala serpents, for example. Moreover, the fact Zygarde’s head looks like a crown and has a third eye, also supports that it’s an ascended being, with the white "third eye" possibly referencing the Sushumna I talked about a couple posts above or so, which would equal the central staff of the Caduceus and the balance of elements. They could even be drawing from things like the Rainbow Man petroglyph, or Indalo, which can signify good luck and the grace of the creator, and has been found both in Spain and Hawaii, among other places. In summary, Perfect Zygarde is a sort of master of the Earth's nature, energy and elements, I guess.

For those worried about having only 80 pokémon, I think it's still a bit too soon to say for sure, even if calculations might partially support the idea.
There are currently 53 new pokémon announced, and at least 19 hinted at via various things, and another 2 mythicals theorized besides Marshadow and Magearna.
That puts us at 72, and there still should be some more evolutions coming, at least some 6 or 7, which when coupled with some possibly still hidden pokémon, could easily bring the total above 80 at least.
We also don't know if the Ultra Beasts will have a "pokémon forme" or not, which might make them catchable and essentially another 7 pokémon, I guess.
So all in all, excluding Alolan Formes, we might be looking at around 90 new creatures if we get lucky with it.
 

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The fake popplio3 pic doesn't look clean and smooth around the edges was one of the obvious giveaways on the pic signing part we know Sugimori and co deleted people's tweets of the sent leaks images but they obviously know people know they're real and accept it funny that Musuda thinking in his mind to be prepare to find out the the secret everyone might not know which I'm definitely looking foward to.
The secret is that there is no secret. :p
 

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I guess that i found something HUGE

9pT8DBTh.jpg

An italian youtuber showed this pic in a video,and he said that he got a pic from one of is followers saying that this pic got quickly deleted from 4Chan,and the chat was on the video (sorry if this image is cropped,but other chat with names were on the screen so...i did this for privacy :c).

But the style...it's the SAME of the final leaked evolution
You can tell this is fake, but I really like this design! If the starters' final evos do have two different forms, I hope the second form looks something like this.
 

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I guess that i found something HUGE

9pT8DBTh.jpg

An italian youtuber showed this pic in a video,and he said that he got a pic from one of is followers saying that this pic got quickly deleted from 4Chan,and the chat was on the video (sorry if this image is cropped,but other chat with names were on the screen so...i did this for privacy :c).

But the style...it's the SAME of the final leaked evolution
Pretty sure it's fake. But holy crap, I sure wish this thing was real because I'd definitely pick Popplio then. Not they I have anything against the mermaid.
 

Karamazov

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I guess that i found something HUGE

9pT8DBTh.jpg

An italian youtuber showed this pic in a video,and he said that he got a pic from one of is followers saying that this pic got quickly deleted from 4Chan,and the chat was on the video (sorry if this image is cropped,but other chat with names were on the screen so...i did this for privacy :c).

But the style...it's the SAME of the final leaked evolution
As much as I hate Poopmaid, at least her design had personality and creativity. I also don't get what it's supposed to be, because it doesn't look like a mermaid. Maybe a bubble juggler? I don't know?
 

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Magearna should be part of the Mememele Pokedex, since the QR code will make it obtainable early on.
 

Matoka

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Interesting things to note, Morelul is on Yellow as opposed to Pink along with the other grass types and jungle pokes.

Wimpod, Salandit, Pikipek and Morelul are supposedly getting evos like I imagined.

Being placed together on the same island next to eachother is giving me a butterfree / beedrill vibe from Vikavolt and Ribombee lines, pontentially a 3rd evo for Ribombee line? however the design does look kinda finished and I wouldn't be surprised to be wrong.

Rotom Pokedex form is listed as being obtained on red island, we know this isn't meant in the sense of you only get the pokedex there and then but possibly the pokemon? If rotom pokedex form is a thing I expect Steel/Electric type or Normal/Electric type and I have no clue what its form move would be.

Interestingly Drampa and Tortunator, despite being hinted at being version exclusives, are found on different islands. it's quite rare that version exclusives do not share the same area, such as shown with alolan Raticate like and Gumshoos line.

Alolan Meowth and Alolan grimer lines could potentially be version counter parts?

Ultra beasts, despite being shown to fight on yellow island against Tapukoko are not displayed island wise and neither is Ash Greninja, Ash Greninja is most likely because demo is N/A to this however...

The fact that they aren't listed on islands as when we first see them and are even on this list seems ot be hinting that they are catchable, afterall we first see both rotom pokedex and UB-02 in yellow island however Rotom is listed as catchable on red island.

Perhaps UB's are catchable later game or even on the 5th island, the Aether Foundation's paradise? who knows.

Also a mythical pokemon, Magearna is listed as being on the 4th island, odd.
 
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Riddle's speculation about orders of Pokemon this generation.

DBOHU5C.jpg

Still seems like there would be enough space for more (not announced) pokemon *hopeful*.

But I really hope you can catch Jangmo-o earlier than the fourth island. I know it is probably the pseudo, but I still want to have it earlier tbh.
Also, why should Wimpod be that late?
 

Matoka

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I just noticed, every other generation has had a 2 stage mushroom pokemon family...

Gen 1 - Paras / Parasect

Gen 2 - N/A

Gen 3 - Shroomish / Breloom

Gen 4 - N/A

Gen 5 - Foongus / Amoongus

Gen 6 - N/A

Gen 7 - Morelul / ???
 
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