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Rumours/Fakes/Leaks Discussion Thread

Do you like fakes/leaks season?

  • I love it!

    Votes: 227 52.2%
  • Yeah

    Votes: 81 18.6%
  • Doesn't bother me

    Votes: 76 17.5%
  • No

    Votes: 20 4.6%
  • Hate it.

    Votes: 31 7.1%

  • Total voters
    435

Dapper Rowlett

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One (probaly) Last leak before datamining /vp/ - Leakz - Pokémon - 4chan
 

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Another rumor that surfaced as well, supposedly during an autograph session Junichi Masuda hinted at the starter evolutions as someone had Masuda autograph a drawing of the player character and the leaked starters with Masuda saying "We haven't revealed these guys yet", probably hinting at them being real, or just might be coincidence

Speaking of, during that same session it was kinda hinted that Psyduck would have a Z-Move as well due to an art showing off Psyduck, kinda interesting considering it's one of Masuda's favorites, but who knows
 

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Another rumor that surfaced as well, supposedly during an autograph session Junichi Masuda hinted at the starter evolutions as someone had Masuda autograph a drawing of the player character and the leaked starters with Masuda saying "We haven't revealed these guys yet", probably hinting at them being real, or just might be coincidence

Speaking of, during that same session it was kinda hinted that Psyduck would have a Z-Move as well due to an art showing off Psyduck, kinda interesting considering it's one of Masuda's favorites, but who knows

"hinting at the starters being real" we know they're real though

The Psyduck part is interesting though! It'd be unexpected, but if Psyduck really is one of Masuda's favorites I can absolutely see it.
 

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Well real or not, let's not forget that the Starters apparently play a larger role in the games this time around. Or at least some say that, but given from the data we have, it's possible that Battle Bond is their "secret" after all. While I agree that, given the customization capabilities, it would be better if they would tap into our PCs "current" appearance, but I do understand that it would take hell of a lot to do that. Not impossible, but still would be quite the feat. I think that the reason behind that is that our "default" state is the state that our Starters met us in, and we stylized ourselves on the go. So it's more like our "natural" selves, the selves that we (as PCs) are underneath all that customization. Again, I'm not defending the fact that the "default" PC is the "best", as I agree that it should adapt to our own personal flair, but our "default" selves are the core, which is where the "bond" comes from. This is all assuming that the Battle Bond in the Starters is real, but given that the Ash-Greninja situation actually came to be in the games, it's not entirely farfetched. So if that's the starter's secret, then I accept it, and will probably love it. And if it's not, no big whoop.
 

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Problem is that it's gonna look like Ash-Greninja all over again plus people's BB starters will look the same black and blonde online with no other flair of uniqueness but it isn't possible for other hair colors since its a slight color change nothing drastic or obviously that this "4chan leak leak" isn't real.
 

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The thing with the rumor about what Masuda said is that he may have been hinting at the first stage evolutions as well. Even if they are real, and it seems very likely they are given by the info the first stage evolutions provide. I just hope they do share a day/night evolution line, though it seems highly unlikely at this rate.
 

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I just wanted to Point out, that in the most recent Trailer that for the Bounsweet and Jangmo-o it said "Watch Bounsweet/Jangmo-o evolve." But for Cutiefly it just showed it evolving without saying "Watch Cutiefly Evolve", it might be nothing... I just thought I'd point it out.
 

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"hinting at the starters being real" we know they're real though
I know that, what I meant is that the designs are being confirmed by Masuda himself, but we'll have to wait and see what happens

But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised about Psyduck having a Z-Move, look at Eevee, Pikachu and Snorlax getting Z-Moves, they are all well known Pokémon for completely different reasons and Psyduck is part of that
 

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Yeah, in the world of internet nothing is secret anymore :(
But hey, he handled it professionally! Now imagine if the whole story or something of the sort leaked. A few leaked pokemon are just a dent in their armor, nothing more.

Another thing I found -
http://is.*********/vp/1476634492534.png
I know I'm getting into this late, and I'm 100% sure the starter evolutions are real, but on the second image—

He/she's been taking Japanese for years and the only word he was able to pick out was "deru"? That's...convenient. Depending on the context the verb "deru" can mean different things...I guess only Masuda and the people that were present know for sure what happened.

Edit: even with the context, it wouldn't have sounded like that. The verb "come out" and "hasn't come out yet" would be conjugated differently, and depending on what was said, would not have sounded like "deru", as that is the present, positive form of the verb.
 
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Personally, I feel like the buzz that's come from him signing that is far too loud. I mean, I really didn't think anybody actually considered those evolutions fake. My question, and I assumed everyone's, was based on whether it would be mono or dual forms. This thing with the signature, it's just a very bland, expected, and human exchange under the circumstances. A light joke about something he obviously knows everybody is fully aware of already. Does it add negative points to the split starter supporters? Eh. I guess it hurts it more than helps, but not by any measurable margin, so as far as my thought process, the big (and only) mystery has still not been revealed.

Final guess before Leakgate2016: No split evolutions (hurts my soul to say), but a select, limited number get some sort of Z-form, starters most prominent. The twist: Starters can 'sync' with Solgaleo or Lunaala, combining to create a powerful Mega-esque ultra mon. These will be version exclusive, so two different forms depending on drawing from Sun or Moons power. It really kind of touches all bases with credible leaks; legends having vague prevo, split forms, bit truly only one stage 3 species for each. Rockruff draws power of either or to determine his evo, so there's the secret, all four interact with the rays of the Sun or moon to perfect their form, albeit in slightly different ways. Lore wise, it fits, and slides in quite nicely with Azoth speculation. RIng would need Zygarde and Marshmallows interaction, with the physical form constructed of the Earth, but the energy of Aether also necessary to act as conduit for solar and lunar rays to travel to Earth. A and Z (yes haha), from the Alpha to the Omega, and everlasting repetition. Would set A and Z up as Mythical counterparts, then Sun, Moon, and Mystery legend as trio. Azoth lore wise, could see that relating to the Dragon lurks g in darkness waiting to overtake the Sun King (bottom left corner of Azoth chart) or Tiki? I'm sure it's eclipse related, most think Marshmallow. It's relation to Z forms and the connections/counterbalance to Zygarde make me think that's not it, either. Regardless, I'm sure whichever is eclipse legend will have a handful that get their form through it. Probably Lycanroc honestly. Just thought of that, and way obvious. Werewolves, moon blocking sky, full moon transformation yada yada.

Hmm. Honestly, this is probably the most logical speculation I've ever made. Not a huge milestone, I tend to think more on the radical side of theories. But reading it over, I'm really now expecting this.
 
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He/she's been taking Japanese for years and the only word he was able to pick out was "deru"? That's...convenient.

From what I understand, it's his friend that speaks to Masuda, and his friend is not that great at Japanese.
Tough, you made a good point about the conjugation.
 

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So what does everyone think alola forms left will be?
Ex: i think diglett/dugtrio will be ground/fire.
Ponyta/rapidash: not sure
Golem line: either rock/fire maybe steel
Jynx: (doubtful) water
 

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If the demo is anything like ORAS and we get a ton of stuff datamined here are my hopes for new info:

At least 100 new Pokemon
20 Alola Forms
UBs are Pokemon
That damn snowman and dolphin
More than 7 trials
A fairly large pokedex to complete (comparable to Kalos)
 
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