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Rumours/Fakes/Leaks Discussion Thread

Do you like fakes/leaks season?

  • I love it!

    Votes: 227 52.2%
  • Yeah

    Votes: 81 18.6%
  • Doesn't bother me

    Votes: 76 17.5%
  • No

    Votes: 20 4.6%
  • Hate it.

    Votes: 31 7.1%

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Lapis Lazuli

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So what's the general consensus on the 25 Cameos leak? It got the number of Pokemon pretty close counting UBs and also says that UBs can be captured, which seems to be the case since they have shinies. However, it got 2/4 with the Alolan Forms they listed, missing Ekans and Dodrio.
 

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Question for those who have seen the data, since I want to know as little as possible from the main game:

1) How is Accelerock's move distribution: Is it only Lycanroc, or there are other Pokemon with this move? If the latter, do a lot of Pokemon learn it?
2) Any Generation 5 Pokemon get any nice moves that would help them become more viable? No need to name them all: just two or three will do.
3) Is there an Alolan Tangela? I don't expect there to be, but I just want to know this.

Thanks for reading.
 

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So what's the general consensus on the 25 Cameos leak? It got the number of Pokemon pretty close counting UBs and also says that UBs can be captured, which seems to be the case since they have shinies. However, it got 2/4 with the Alolan Forms they listed, missing Ekans and Dodrio.
Either:
- They mixed in phony info with real one for whatever reason
- They were a fake that got REALLY lucky
- There really is more new stuff that's locked behind National Dex

It's probably the first one imo.
 

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Yes, hahaha, I knew it. UBs are catchable. "Gotta catch'em all". I don't see why you people are so upset about this. The way I see it, since they are designed creatures based on some concepts, they should be catchable. Why waste your time designing otherwise? Also, if god is a catchable Pokemon, why can't these UBs be catchable?
 
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I actually think it is pretty cool to catch something other than pokemon. It be new and a great surprise for players especially the older ones who play pokemon since Red/Blue.
 

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Either:
- They mixed in phony info with real one for whatever reason
- They were a fake that got REALLY lucky
- There really is more new stuff that's locked behind National Dex

It's probably the first one imo.

There's another option - changes in pre-production that led to completely or near-completed designs being shelved for later games, like with Shellos and Mega Flygon.
 

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There's another option - changes in pre-production that led to completely or near-completed designs being shelved for later games, like with Shellos and Mega Flygon.
Yeah, that too.
 

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I just have this feeling that there's more to come. We haven't seen everything.

Even if we haven't seen everything, I am 100% certain that it's not because Game Freak were pulling some secretive double-bluff. It would certainly be due to a bad scrubbing job.

Tajiri: What have they done to my game...

Tajiri probably doesn't care, though if he did, well, that's what happens when you hand off your series to somebody else - you relinquish your input and concede it to somebody else's vision.

Yes, hahaha, I knew it. UBs are catchable. "Gotta catch'em all". I don't see why you people are so upset about this. The way I see it, since they are designed creatures based on some concepts, they should be catchable. Why waste your time designing otherwise? Also, if god is a catchable Pokemon, why can't these UBs be catchable?

If they were to function as traditional RPG bosses, as was the desire there, they would obviously still need designs... that's like asking why they give the Professors special designs even though we can't (typically) battle them.

"God" is catchable because it is, biologically speaking, still a Pokémon. Whereas if the Ultra Beasts are not biologically Pokémon, then Poké Balls shouldn't work on them, unless suddenly we can start catching humans, too. Of course, they could introduce some other kind of capture method... but I'm now thinking they might just be an eldritch race of Pokémon from another dimension. Which I admit, as a story premise, is also really cool. It's just not what I'd already been picturing in my head, but then, maybe I should exercise some patience there. This is completely uncharted territory after all.
 

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Question for those who have seen the data, since I want to know as little as possible from the main game:

1) How is Accelerock's move distribution: Is it only Lycanroc, or there are other Pokemon with this move? If the latter, do a lot of Pokemon learn it?
2) Any Generation 5 Pokemon get any nice moves that would help them become more viable? No need to name them all: just two or three will do.
3) Is there an Alolan Tangela? I don't expect there to be, but I just want to know this.

Thanks for reading.
1. And 2.) I could be wrong but I don't think there's stats on moves outside of the ones used in the demo and possible names for the signature starter moves.

3.) Nope.
 

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"God" is catchable because it is, biologically speaking, still a Pokémon. Whereas if the Ultra Beasts are not biologically Pokémon, then Poké Balls shouldn't work on them, unless suddenly we can start catching humans, too. Of course, they could introduce some other kind of capture method... but I'm now thinking they might just be an eldritch race of Pokémon from another dimension. Which I admit, as a story premise, is also really cool. It's just not what I'd already been picturing in my head, but then, maybe I should exercise some patience there. This is completely uncharted territory after all.

I actually don't think it has to be a Pokemon for a Pokeball to contain something. Aren't overworld items traditionally contained in discarded Pokeballs? That's the whole idea behind Voltorb and Foongus, after all.
 

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If they were to function as traditional RPG bosses, as was the desire there, they would obviously still need designs... that's like asking why they give the Professors special designs even though we can't (typically) battle them.

"God" is catchable because it is, biologically speaking, still a Pokémon. Whereas if the Ultra Beasts are not biologically Pokémon, then Poké Balls shouldn't work on them, unless suddenly we can start catching humans, too. Of course, they could introduce some other kind of capture method... but I'm now thinking they might just be an eldritch race of Pokémon from another dimension. Which I admit, as a story premise, is also really cool. It's just not what I'd already been picturing in my head, but then, maybe I should exercise some patience there. This is completely uncharted territory after all.
Well, Pokemon are not your traditional RPG. You mostly don't capture creatures in other RPG. Besides, most legendaries battles are akins to boss battle anyway, with music and all that. You just have the option of capturing the boss.

Biologically a Pokemon? What is considered "biologically Pokémon"? Living sludges, in animated object? Computer programs?
 

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I actually don't think it has to be a Pokemon for a Pokeball to contain something. Aren't overworld items traditionally contained in discarded Pokeballs? That's the whole idea behind Voltorb and Foongus, after all.

I always kind of assumed that there was sort of a difference there. The way I've always thought of it is, Pokémon are stored in Poké Balls by converting them into energy, whereas with items, you would physically pop the Poké Ball open and place the item inside it. I'm pretty sure there's no real exposition on this subject, however.

Well, Pokemon are not your traditional RPG. You mostly don't capture creatures in other RPG. Besides, most legendaries battles are akins to boss battle anyway, with music and all that. You just have the option of capturing the boss.

Yes, clearly. But the idea was, they could make the Ultra Beasts are more traditional affair as a change of pace. Indeed, Pokémon isn't your traditional RPG. So pulling a page out of their book would actually be something quite new and different for the series.

Biologically a Pokemon? What is considered "biologically Pokémon"? Living sludges, in animated object? Computer programs?

While Pokémon deviate into an incredibly diverse range of subspecies, they are all still within the same overarching genus - sentient creatures with measurable stats, a capacity for four battle techniques, the ability to breed with one another, and so on. Humans are obviously a different classification of beings because they have no stats, can't learn moves, can't breed with Pokémon, etc., and the Ultra Beasts could be a third class of beings with their own traits, distinct from these other two classes. Or they could be alien Pokémon. It remains to be seen.
 

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I don't know if anyone talked about this, but Nintendo confirmed you can catch Ultra Beast.

Nintendo Confirms You Can Catch Ultra Beasts in Pokémon Sun & Moon
I didn't really see that coming. I guess that means their power is just flavor text? Are they really Pokémon then?

Well, I was hoping that the Ultra Beasts couldn't be caught, but since they can, I actually hope that they *are* some sort of Pokémon now. It just think it would be very strange to be able to capture non-Pokémon in Poké Balls and then use them to fight actual Pokémon.

If they are Pokémon though, then I seriously wonder what's up with them. They're so delightfully bizarre, but we've seen Pokémon from other dimensions before, and they were never that odd.

One of the leaks said that Lillie's mom researches hyperspace Pokémon, so they could have gotten that way to adapt to the hyperspace lifestyle. Either that, or Ultra Beasts are native to the Distortion World and we'll see them again for the Sinnoh remakes.

Either way, I think that they will most likely be the Eldritch Abominations/Lovecraftian Horrors of the Pokémon world. OLD GOD POKÉMON FTW!
 

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Either way, I think that they will most likely be the Eldritch Abominations/Lovecraftian Horrors of the Pokémon world. OLD GOD POKÉMON FTW!
All aboard the canonized glitch pokemon hype train.
 

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I don't know if anyone talked about this, but Nintendo confirmed you can catch Ultra Beast.

Nintendo Confirms You Can Catch Ultra Beasts in Pokémon Sun & Moon
I think I accidentally deleted my post on this earlier, but there was no such confirmation. Ultra Beasts are confirmed to play a major role in the plot. That's all.
Polygon is the only prime newssource reporting this, and they have no citation. That is suspicious. They also have a track record of posting speculation and false information as fact.
Until a Nintendo, TPC, or Game Freak representative comes forward on a verifiable record, or the game comes out, nothing's confirmed.
 

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You know, I wanted Minior to evolve into something but, I don't want gimmick pokemon.
 

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Either:
- They mixed in phony info with real one for whatever reason
- They were a fake that got REALLY lucky
- There really is more new stuff that's locked behind National Dex

It's probably the first one imo.
In a dream world, there would be a sleeping Komala evolution hidden deep within those files. But yeah, more than likely this is all we're gonna get and the leaker through in some false info.
 

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o_O the idea of UBs being from an alternate dimension kind of freaks me out. It makes me think they are going to do a space based pokemon and thats an idea I do not want.
 

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I actually have a why and how theory about Ultra Beasts being capturable. What if the Aether Foundation found a way to capture Ultra Beasts, despite not being pokemon, using the research they had. It makes sense since they are a major threat that need to be stopped. What better way to do that than to imprison them? So they invent they're own pokeballs that you can use to catch them.
 
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