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Rumours/Fakes/Leaks Discussion Thread

Do you like fakes/leaks season?

  • I love it!

    Votes: 226 52.1%
  • Yeah

    Votes: 81 18.7%
  • Doesn't bother me

    Votes: 76 17.5%
  • No

    Votes: 20 4.6%
  • Hate it.

    Votes: 31 7.1%

  • Total voters
    434
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Also, Crystal WAS released exclusively for the GBC with Gold/Silver being playable on the vanilla Game Boy.
Yeah and they can always release Gen 1, 2 and 3 digitally. With some reworking they can even release Gen 4, 5 and 6.
 
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Elaborate on this. It would get that system some more sales closer to launch.

Why would the developers want to have to create new models and scenery while practicing with the new hardware? Using an expanded port for experiments lets them test the waters without having to start from total scratch. How is this not more convenient for the developers?

You also did not answer my question. If a new game is better for testing waters, then why would TWW HD be specifically stated in its announcement direct a few years ago to be a tool to help the Zelda devs test out the Wii U (in addition to being a stop-gap, that is)? And why would Pokémon be different in this regard?
No it wouldn't. It screws gen 7 up by separation between two handheld. Switch could end up falling in sales.

That's still not how test games work
Also YOU feel that cutting a gen in half isn't a good strategy. Nintendo and Gamefreak have another strategy in mind.
When the Switch launches they won't be trying to sell 3DSes and Wii Us. That install base growth has already slowed way down. Now it's onto the next product and to get people to move you don't give them reason to stay on the current old hardware by still releasing games on it. Trust me they say they'll support it until 2018 but believe me once Switch gets off the ground 3DS is done.
The only way I see Stars on Switch is if it is advanced far more than Sun and Moon. It has to be bigger with more content, post game and so on. It has to be more than just the standard third version game otherwise it is has no place on the Switch if it is the standard third version. But I prefer all of gen 7 on one handheld.
 
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Pokemon should go to the Switch, but not now. Gen 7 needs to be finished first on the 3DS. Then, Gen 8 will release for the Switch. That's what I want to happen.
 
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The only way I see Stars on Switch is if it is advanced far more than Sun and Moon. It has to be bigger with more content, post game and so on. It has to be more than just the standard third version game otherwise it is has no place on the Switch if it is the standard third version. But I prefer all of gen 7 on one handheld.
As I have stated several times, there is no reason to assume that Nintendo Stars ISN'T just that. I doubt Gamefreak is going to bring back third versions just to make them the same as other third versions. This will likely be the biggest third version we'll ever have had so far, if the rumours are real. Plus, having Stars on 3DS will not offer many new features at all. They have already had to remove features and SM already reached the limits of the 3DS (and before you argue, this is confirmed so denying it again will not do you any favours). There is not much of a point in creating Pokémon Stars if it is for 3DS and not Switch.
 
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Third versions typically add new content. Crystal got a new sidequest, Emerald got the Battle Frontier and an improved rematch system, and Platinum got a full Pokedex expansion as well as a new story involving the Distortion World, as well as the Battle Frontier. I'm just scraping the barrel as to what third versions have added. They are never straight ports of old games.
 
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No it wouldn't. It screws gen 7 up by separation between two handheld. Switch could end up falling in sales.
How does more games = less sales?


The only way I see Stars on Switch is if it is advanced far more than Sun and Moon. It has to be bigger with more content, post game and so on. It has to be more than just the standard third version game otherwise it is has no place on the Switch if it is the standard third version. But I prefer all of gen 7 on one handheld.
Who said it wasn't bigger than a normal 3rd version?
 
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As I have stated several times, there is no reason to assume that Nintendo Stars ISN'T just that. I doubt Gamefreak is going to bring back third versions just to make them the same as other third versions. This will likely be the biggest third version we'll ever have had so far, if the rumours are real. Plus, having Stars on 3DS will not offer many new features at all. They have already had to remove features and SM already reached the limits of the 3DS (and before you argue, this is confirmed so denying it again will not do you any favours). There is not much of a point in creating Pokémon Stars if it is for 3DS and not Switch.
Nope. 3DS has not reach it's limits so don't deny this. I am never in denial. Either make Stars better or keep it as 3DS game.

How does more games = less sales?



Who said it wasn't bigger than a normal 3rd version?
Because splitting a gen up when some want gen 7 to be their last gen would be disastrous in my opinion.
 
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How does more games = less sales?
Well, he thinks that Stars will have low sales because it would alienate 3DS players, forcing them to shell $300 for a new console on top of the new game. They would have to do that anyway sometime in the future. Also, there would be major compatibility issues between Stars and SM.
 
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Because splitting a gen up when some want gen 7 to be their last gen would be disastrous in my opinion.
But how does that affect the Switch's sales negatively? The thing you said would have sales fall was the Switch, not Stars. Are you saying people just won't be buying the console out of spite for this if they would have gotten it if there wasn't Stars on it?

Well, he thinks that Stars will have low sales because it would alienate 3DS players, forcing them to shell $300 for a new console on top of the new game. They would have to do that anyway sometime in the future. Also, there would be major compatibility issues between Stars and SM.
The quote was this:
Switch could end up falling in sales.
He was talking about the Switch's sales, not Star's.

That implies that putting Stars on Switch would somehow cause a net loss in potential Switch buyers, which makes no sense at all.
 
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Oh. I thought he was talking about Stars. Stars, if it exists, will be more of a benefit for the Switch than a dentriment. If Stars exists, I want it on the Switch.
 
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But how does that affect the Switch's sales negatively? The thing you said would have sales fall was the Switch, not Stars. Are you saying people just won't be buying the console out of spite for this if they would have gotten it if there wasn't Stars on it?


The quote was this:

He was talking about the Switch's sales, not Star's.

That implies that putting Stars on Switch would somehow cause a net loss in potential Switch buyers, which makes no sense at all.
It does because some might not buy any more games after gen 7. You cut gen 7 in half and those players would lose the chance to finish the whole gen 7. Not everyone would want to buy the Switch.
 
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I'm normally anti-Stars, but if it comes down to having it on the 3DS or the Switch, I want it on the Switch.
 
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Why do these topics always need to be flooded by arguments that just go around in circles over what console the next games should be on. Has anyone seen any interesting new rumors we could talk about here? We saw that interview with Junichi Masuda yesterday.
 
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Why do these topics always need to be flooded by arguments that just go around in circles over what console the next games should be on. Has anyone seen any interesting new rumors we could talk about here? We saw that interview with Junichi Masuda yesterday.
I did. I think that it is against Stars.
 
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Nope. 3DS has not reach it's limits so don't deny this. I am never in denial. Either make Stars better or keep it as 3DS game.
For the last time, it is already confirmed information. All you are doing is repeating my exact arguments against me. I tell you that this is confirmed and you are in denial, and all you do is spin it around and claim I am in denial. For the sake of your own credibility I suggest you stop what you're doing, or at least attempt a better argument.
 
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The 3DS has reached its limits. By 2018 it will be dead. The Switch is the future.
 
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For the last time, it is already confirmed information. All you are doing is repeating my exact arguments against me. I tell you that this is confirmed and you are in denial, and all you do is spin it around and claim I am in denial. For the sake of your own credibility I suggest you stop what you're doing, or at least attempt a better argument.
No it is not confirmed. I am not in denial and 100% correct. My arguments are solid that is it. It is you who is denying the truth in my opinion.
 
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It does because some might not buy any more games after gen 7. You cut gen 7 in half and those players would lose the chance to finish the whole gen 7. Not everyone would want to buy the Switch.
You still have yet to actually answer how less people would buy a Switch as a result of putting Stars on it.

There are some don't want to buy Switches on principle, regardless of what games are there, because they're not interested, they can't afford it, etc. That is true.

And it's also completely irrelevant to how the release of Stars would affect Switch sales, because they won't be buying the console either way. Similarly, people who are already 100% sold on the console for Breath of the Wild without hiccuping and framerate issues that appear to plague the Wii U version or Dragon Quest XI or something are also irrelevant to Star's impact, because they're buying it either way.

Now, the next group are potential buyers who are interested but unsure. They're perfectly free to skip the game, it's not like Game Freak or Nintendo is holding guns to people's heads saying, "If you buy this system, you must also buy this game." On the other hand, Stars can easily bring in some of these buyers.

How would the release of Stars dissuade some of these customers and turn them off from the system entirely?
 
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You still have yet to actually answer how less people would buy a Switch as a result of putting Stars on it.

There are some don't want to buy Switches on principle, regardless of what games are there, because they're not interested, they can't afford it, etc. That is true.

And it's also completely irrelevant to how the release of Stars would affect Switch sales, because they won't be buying the console either way. Similarly, people who are already 100% sold on the console for Breath of the Wild without hiccuping and framerate issues that appear to plague the Wii U version or Dragon Quest XI or something are also irrelevant to Star's impact, because they're buying it either way.

Now, the next group are potential buyers who are interested but unsure. They're perfectly free to skip the game, it's not like Game Freak or Nintendo is holding guns to people's heads saying, "If you buy this system, you must also buy this game." On the other hand, Stars can easily bring in some of these buyers.

How would the release of Stars dissuade some of these customers and turn them off from the system entirely?
Because a standard third version on the Switch doesn't cut it. It be better to keep it on 3DS. Who wants to buy a standard third version that is almost the same as SM?
 
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