This season will be done by a different dubbing company under a different director - so who knows, could be better. Hopefully, they'll have the good sense to go back to the more soft-rock type affairs of the earlier season intros rather than this rap nonsense. (And I actually like quite a lot of rap music - just not shit rap music).Bet the new opening is going to be comparable to Tauros manure. Like the Battle Frontier and D&P openings before it.
I like PUSA's dub well enough, but they seriously don't know anything about music and editing.
Also, as far as I understand it, Taj is no longer dubbing the series, so it's more than just where it's being dubbed - it's a different company.It's a different director, but it's not a different company. The same people are still in charge, they're just dubbing it at a different studio.
Yeah, the Battle Frontier theme was a lot worse, in my opinion. I mean, the words were catchy and I really liked the lyrics. So that part wasn't a problem for me. However, when the lyrics were sung, they just sounded....well, different. And I think that was because Pokemon USA hired a new singer.Was the 9th opening (TAJ's first) really worse than the 8th (4Kids' last)?
I always thought that was a time issue since they're not chopping seconds off episode scenes like 4kids did so they're chopping theme tune instead or am I wrong here.Well, I know how we could possibly find answers to those questions about the dub music.
Apparently, Tom Wayland is gonna be at New York Comic-con. Perhaps someone from Bulbagarden who's attending this could ask him some questions about the music direction, like what the new opening will be like for Season 11. And also, maybe Wayland can discuss the amount of BGM being kept in the episodes. That would be interesting!! ^_^
Yeah, the Battle Frontier theme was a lot worse, in my opinion. I mean, the words were catchy and I really liked the lyrics. So that part wasn't a problem for me. However, when the lyrics were sung, they just sounded....well, different. And I think that was because Pokemon USA hired a new singer.
Also, another reason I didn't like that song much, was because the Battle Frontier theme was A LOT shorter than the one for Advanced Battle. I mean, I hate how the opening was only, 30 seconds long or something (what's with the short opening, anyway? was Pokemon USA/TAJ that worried about kids' attention spans that they couldn't afford a longer opening?).
Anyway, personally, I loved the guy who sang the Advanced Battle theme (Unbeatable) and some other 4Kids themes. He was really talented! I wish Pokemon USA had kept him! =(
Of course there will be some difference between Taj and DuArt (DuArt was in the credits for The Rise of Darkrai, so they've been confirmed as the new post production company). I mean, why would PUSA switch if there weren't any differences (that they wanted). At the same time however, those changes could be entirely business related only, and may or may not result in any noticable changes to us the fans.Those orders being little more than "dub the anime, plzkthx".
With different people working on the show, it's inevitable there'll be a difference in how it's done. If it's just a difference in the way the music's cut together, or whether or not the actors are rushing their lines by direction etc, it's still a change.
To be fair to the last series of the dub, there were very few serious issues I could think of that would need a drastic change. There were a few issues where the lines the actors were trying to say just didn't seem to fit the way the director was having them say it (but thanks to the animation, problems like that have been around since the start of the series - so not a lot can be done about that other than smoother direction, I guess) and the music seemed to be cut together a bit hurriedly - but with no real edits or goofs or changes, it's a pretty faithful dub in all but the music (which is never going to be completely faithful to the Japanese original, it would seem - so there's little point in holding out any hope for that).
But ANYWAY, with a new company with new people, it is possible that the original music produced by whoever is doing it at whatever new company is doing the dubbing (do we know who it is yet? I haven't seen anything about it...) will be an improvement. All we really need is one person with some talent to do the work, after all. Not that out of the question to hold out hope for a better theme for this new season under those conditions...
Not at all.Doctor Oak said:Those orders being little more than "dub the anime, plzkthx".
WAY worse.Was the 9th opening (TAJ's first) really worse than the 8th (4Kids' last)?
The same was said when Taj took over, and look how many things changed.It's a different company taking PUSA's orders, yes. But those orders aren't going to change one bit.
That logic fails. PAB has 1-minute long OP, PAC had 45 seconds. Does that mean PAC eps were chopped more? No.I always thought that was a time issue since they're not chopping seconds off episode scenes like 4kids did so they're chopping theme tune instead or am I wrong here.
They'll approve them, but I'd be extremely surprised if a bunch of business school graduates in managerial positions actually write the scripts, organise the music or sit and fiddle over edits. PUSA is just a managerial company employed to oversee the other companies working on the Pokemon franchise.Not at all.
TAJ's role in the series has always just been to hit the record button and to edit the voices and the music together to the video. PUSA, being the license holder, still makes all the decisions about the script, edits, casting, music, etc.
Look at the end credits of anything TAJ has ever worked on. There are only about three or four people listed in the credits who work for TAJ, and all of those positions deal with the technical aspect of dubbing.peno2 said:And where you have a prove for what you are stated as a fact, Dogasu? Untill you show me a prove, I can only consider this as assumption with the same wight as assumption of those stated otherwise than you.
And even if your assumption were right, no one can say for sure this will change under DuArt ;-)
No, the same was said when PUSA took over. Not TAJ.AtoMan said:The same was said when Taj took over, and look how many things changed.
As the years go on, networks are requiring shows to be shorter and shorter so they can fit in more ads. Since networks aren't making as much per ad as they used to, they have to show more ads today to make the same amount of money they were able to make five years ago.What the heck with time issue? First 3 seasons had 1-minute long opening, 1st season had also 1-minute long ending, pokeraps etc, 3 eyecatchers... and there was less cutting. If they cut anything it's because they want to - not because it makes any sense.
Though, if you look at the Pokemon dub credits, no one is listed for scoring the series. The people who composed the music are listed, but not the music editors.Look at the end credits of anything TAJ has ever worked on. There are only about three or four people listed in the credits who work for TAJ, and all of those positions deal with the technical aspect of dubbing.
The actual decisions about everything else, as I've said over and over, are PUSA's to make.