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Shiny Pokémon with the Pokéradar

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ShinyFlareon

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Re: Shiny Pokemon with the Pokeradar

Congrats on your Baltoy, =Dragonite=!

Tried chaining Cleffa in the Trophy Garden this morning...didn't go too well, mainly because I was outside waiting for my class to start and couldn't see the patches of grass too well. I did manage to catch a Careful one with 31 Sp. Def IVs and Magic Guard, though...might train her up for a UU special wall. I'll keep trying today, and see what happens.
 

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Re: Shiny Pokemon with the Pokeradar

ok if I try to chain eevees what 2 syncs should I bring ?
 

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A Modest one's generally good. A lot of the evolutions can make good use of a Modest nature, as well as a Timid one. Bold is also good for future Vaporeons and Umbreons, while future Leafeons will appreciate a Jolly nature. So if you're only bringing two, I would advise a Modest/Timid syncher and a Bold one (I've got plenty of Bold synchers if you'd like to borrow).
 

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Okay I'll bring modest and bold syncs.
I might bring a jolly one also since I only need 2 pokemon to get me to 40 and 1 to false swipe
 

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Okay I'll bring modest and bold syncs.
I might bring a jolly one also since I only need 2 pokemon to get me to 40 and 1 to false swipe

If you're going to bring a third, I recommend making it Timid. Jolly's perfectly acceptable, but really only Leafeon will be able to take advantage of it.
 

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Re: Shiny Pokemon with the Pokeradar

Dont forget about flareon. Okay modest (jolteon,glaceon) bold (vaporeon,umbreon) timid (espeon) and if possible a jolly (leafeon,flareon)
 

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Well I found time a few days ago to chain. I was using the dongle method as I was chaining for elekid. I was being extra cautious and it took me three days to get up to 36 (hey I had free time only after 12 at night). My gut instinct was to sleep and begin again by resetting. But I got greedy, tried to lengthen the chain, and WHAM! I find a pachirisu! Well u can believe me when I say that I had to take a prolonged rest from chaining (it has been almost a week). At least I got over 20 electerizers from it. I feel as if I wasted a very lucky chain though /:
 

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Im going to try to do some chaining today! (Its finally my day off!!) so im going to check my swarm and then ill search around looking for something to chain. Hopefully i can add some more pokemon to my shiny collection.
 

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My swarm yesterday was Absol, but I just can't get the chain to 40. It kept breaking at 30s. Then I tried my luck on Dusclops. Same bad luck there. I guess I'll just train my Sassy Baltoy then. 252 Def, 252 SP Def, 6 HP, is that good or bad? I'm thinking about teaching him Skill Swap, for double battle with my shiny Slaking.
 

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.............39.

I hit 39 Larvitars, and a GEODUDE comes out of NOWHERE.

.....................................words fail me.

Well, that depends on you. The shiny appearance rate wont go higher once the chain reaches 40, but lower chain means lower rate of encountering a shiny. I always only start resetting once I hit 40, but I remember dukeburger said she start resetting after 35. And she has a lot of shinies to proof it. Just go with your guts. If you feel it's safer to start resetting on early 30s, just do it. It'll be harder (well, depends on luck too), but you wont feel frustrated when the chain broke at 39 if you decided to continue the chain.

Am I making any sense? I'm sorry, my English is pretty bad.

No, your English is fine! ^_^ I've just been around this thread long enough to know that some people, when the topic of resetting before 40 comes up, get all "OMG NO WAI U BLASPHEMER U MUST GO 2 40 FIRST U TOTAL N00B BLAAAAAAAARGH!!!" (not really... ^_^ I love you guys!) and...yeah.

I'm just gonna lump this all together for the sake of convenience. First... I guess it sounds ironic, but I wanna say congrats on getting a chain that high, Edo-Kun. I know it really sucks to break a chain at 39, but at least you know you're getting the hang of it. When you say the Geodude came out of nowhere, was it really like out of nowhere or did you just get unlucky when you chose the patch? Just wondering.

What Dragonite says is true. As for the part about me resetting at 35... I no longer do that, but I did when I was a beginner. Back then I didn't understand the magic rule of 40 really, and as a result it never occurred to me that if you got to 40, you could just keep resetting for shiny patches only. I also never thought of synchronizing for good natures. I just really, really wanted a shiny, and if I just caught one on a chain, I was happy.

So, if you feel the same way since you're still a beginner, I think 35 is an okay place to reset from. Granted, you can expect to spend several hours and hundreds of repels sitting there resetting, and nothing may ever show up. According to the probability curve, your chances of a shiny patch at 35 would be 1/294. Not great, but not terrible really. I've caught shiny Scyther, Pidgey, Meditite, and Starly that way (possibly more, but that's what I can think of off-hand). You can also stop at 39 if you feel very paranoid. A lot of people do that. Your chances are 1/100. And at least if you get a shiny patch, it's like a free pass to 40. I remember doing this with Rhydon and Machop. I just never reset before 40 anymore, because after chaining for so long and knowing how aggravating it is when the odds are against you, I just don't have any patience for anything but the best chances.

And about "OMG NO WAI U BLASPHEMER U MUST GO 2 40 FIRST U TOTAL N00B BLAAAAAAAARGH!!!" (lol)... that's mainly directed at people who continue their chain after 40 just to have it break, when there's no reason, or I guess at people who don't understand how it works. I know I got irritated about that, which I apologize for to whomever that may have concerned... I just got sick of repeating it over and over and the same people would still break their chains of 40+ and complain about it. But it just seems to be such a common mistake that I really do think it should be underlined and in huge letters or something on the first page.

My posts are always way too long... let me just say congrats to Dragonite on shiny Baltoy and good luck to everyone who's still trying. I may try some chaining in a bit since I finally have some free time, although I do still want to reset for a good Shaymin so I don't know yet. :p
 

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Just wanted to bring this up: Even with a chain of 39, the chance of getting a shiny only around 1/500 (if I recall correctly and calculated properly). I always go to 40. Although Bagon was WAY too risky, I did it anyway, and it paid off.

I've been taking a break from chaining lately in favor of finishing some of my new breeding projects and a new team (And training my totally awesome Shaymin :D), but I think I'll get back to chaining... right now! I saw that East Shellos has a 50% rarity at night (and the next lowest is like... 25?) so that'll be an easy one.
 

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Just wanted to bring this up: Even with a chain of 39, the chance of getting a shiny only around 1/500 (if I recall correctly and calculated properly). I always go to 40. Although Bagon was WAY too risky, I did it anyway, and it paid off.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but where did you get that from? I'm basing my 1/100 off of the holy probability curve of chaining... if anyone can post that, it may be helpful. It says your chances are 1/400, which means that if you are resetting from an area where you get full range of the radar (and therefore 4 shaking patches on every reset), that puts your chances at 1/100. It's like how the chances of a shiny at 40 are 1/200, but with that same radar rule applied, it makes your chances 1/50.

And I'm gonna go give chaining another try right now too. May as well go back for Gligar, although dongle method Pokemon hate me.
 

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I got it from the actual calculation. The formula is here. Plug in 39, and you get 0.002515220642089844... which is about 1/500.
 

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Ahh. Hmm. So what happens if you plug in 40? I have no idea how to either reduce a fraction with very long numbers or how to convert irrational decimals to fractions.
 

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All I know is that the rate is 1/50 at 40. That's what keeps me chaining to 40. :p After releasing a few of my Pokemon, I now have some spaces left in my box that needs to be filled with shinies. Miltank and Dusclops, here I come.
 

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It's 1/200 at 40... or are you talking about the whole 4 1/200 chances to make it 1/50?
 

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Yup. Even if it's 1/200, it's still good compared to 1/8xxx. I forgot the normal shiny encounter rate. :p
 
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