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Shiny Pokémon with the Pokéradar

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Eevee_Breeder

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Cheers for SHINYHUNTER! I encountered my first pokeradar shiny today, A PONYTA =]
It was at a chain of 3 though, so yet I still manage to have no skill =[

Congrats on your first shiny a ponyta :) good memories a ponyta was my first one as well
 

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=] Thank you very much, I will strive to earn my next shiny now! =]
 

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Ok, I will try =]
I was sad, I made a chain to 36 with that ponyta =[
Question: If I ever get to 35 again, should I stop and start resetting for safety?
 

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Ok, I will try =]
I was sad, I made a chain to 36 with that ponyta =[
Question: If I ever get to 35 again, should I stop and start resetting for safety?

That's really a judgement question...I know, I asked it myself a few pages back.
 

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ive been trying to get a shiny houndoom for a while now... the highest chain i have gotten is 45 but no shinys yet. just wondering is there a equations related to chain length and probabilty of finding that pokemon shiny?
 

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ive been trying to get a shiny houndoom for a while now... the highest chain i have gotten is 45 but no shinys yet. just wondering is there a equations related to chain length and probabilty of finding that pokemon shiny?

The probability of finding a shiny pokemon caps at a chain of 40. I don't know the exact percentage, but it's something like 1/200, I think. So once you hit 40 (or wherever you feel comfortable stopping), just keep resetting the radar until a shiny patch appears.
 

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ive been trying to get a shiny houndoom for a while now... the highest chain i have gotten is 45 but no shinys yet. just wondering is there a equations related to chain length and probabilty of finding that pokemon shiny?

The probability of finding a shiny pokemon caps at a chain of 40. I don't know the exact percentage, but it's something like 1/200, I think. So once you hit 40 (or wherever you feel comfortable stopping), just keep resetting the radar until a shiny patch appears.

You are right Edo-kun, as usual. Your odds drop to 1/200 per shaking patch, so if you reset in a spot where you see 4 shaking patches, your odds are 1/50 that one of those will be shiny. Therefore, on average, once you've made it to your 40th link in the chain, you should have to reset your radar about 50 times to see a shiny. Sometimes it's only once...sometimes it takes FOREVER!

In honor of Platinum being released and renewed attention to the game (for me at least :D ) I spent a little time making a quick webpage with some tips. I borrowed heavily from Shuko and especially Skye as well as all of you that contributed ideas, so consider me just the medium passing all of your ideas on in one location. I'm not done with it yet, but here's a link if you want to look at it:

http://totorosinsights.weebly.com/

Feel free to make suggestions here, or click on the blog link on the main page and leave a comment there.

Happy chaining everyone!
 

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Im going back to my "Roots" and going for miltank , jolly synched. =]

Totoro , Great Guide I cant wait fot the other sections =]
 

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after many chains i finaly got my shiny houndoom after 23 chains thanks for the method guys it works
 

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Great guide, Totoro... and thanks for the mention. :p I would have just commented to you on the blog, but I couldn't see a way of doing so. Here are some of my suggestions:

- I think you should introduce the chances as 1/200 rather than 1/50... just because it fits with the formula. You could then go on to explain what would bring your chances to 1/50 later, of course. I guess this is just more of a judgement call than anything.

- Definitely mention repeat balls! I think they're the best. You could also mention how it's a good idea to check a Pokemon's catch rate to determine whether you have enough good balls before you start.

- I think it's worth mentioning app #4 (#6 on Platinum though I think), which is the step counter. I find it more worthwhile to keep track of my exact steps so that I know when I've taken 50 and can reset the radar. It may hurt people who can't remember and then they end up running out of repel on their way to a patch, and then forget where they're going or something. I know a lot of people are somehow very good without the step counter, but it's an alternate method. I can usually keep track of how far along my chain is by how much PP I have left, and it's always easy to switch to the chain app whenever I forget.

- I think you should expand on the Suction Cups section by saying that it's always a good idea to scout out a Pokemon's move set, either by looking it up or by battling the Pokemon before you begin a chain. A damp Golduck is also a good idea for things that know Explosion/Self Destruct.

- Emphasize the importance of leading with a Pokemon that is always at a higher level than the Pokemon of the route. If the first Pokemon is fainted, it doesn't matter what level, but the next Pokemon who will be doing the work must be at a higher level.

- I think you should mention that walking rather than running is a better method of resetting the radar for beginners. I'm not a beginner and I STILL only feel comfortable walking and not running. It's very easy to either go out of range of the radar or run into the wrong patch while running... unless you are very skilled at it.

- Maybe there should be a disclaimer about the fourth ring rule. I don't think that we really have enough proof that only the fourth ring is any good, especially because Crownfire is a very successful chainer and he doesn't use this method. Maybe just say something about how it's a safe rule to follow and works for many people, and it is easy to keep track of the amount of steps that way, but that there is no certain proof that breaking this rule will end your chain.

- I know this guide isn't finished, but perhaps you could include a section about the chaining formula, and how the chances grow exponentially, meaning your chances are really only decent in the high 30s, and the best at 40 and to absolutely not go past that except to reset for shiny patches only. This should be stressed since a lot of newcomers don't know this, and unfortunately lose all their hard work when they deserve a shiny after reaching 40.

These are my main suggestions for now, but maybe I'll have more when you add more. I hope this helps. :)
 

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First Platinum shiny :) I was just minding my own business training my pokemon for the first yes the first gym battle I was in route 207 when bam i hear it the tinkling sound shinies make when they appear random encounter with my new shiny machop...Lucky
 

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goiing for shiny shellos...

wish me luck!!! ;D
 

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These are my main suggestions for now, but maybe I'll have more when you add more. I hope this helps. :)

Great suggestions Dukeburger, thanks.

First Platinum shiny :) I was just minding my own business training my pokemon for the first yes the first gym battle I was in route 207 when bam i hear it the tinkling sound shinies make when they appear random encounter with my new shiny machop...Lucky

Lucky indeed EB. I've still only encountered one random shiny in all of my hours playing Fire Red, Leaf Green, Emerald, Diamond and Pearl!

goiing for shiny shellos...

wish me luck!!! ;D

Good luck SH!
 

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I'll try me some Platinum chaining soon. Just need to find 40 more for the dex.

Shiny Magmar, here I come!
 

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Im going to go for cubone today and tomorrow since I want a marowak in my team :)
 

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I may try and find me a shiny East Sea Shellos in Platinum for my team, once I get there...it'll be tough without the radar, but I still want to try!
 

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I may try and find me a shiny East Sea Shellos in Platinum for my team, once I get there...it'll be tough without the radar, but I still want to try!

Good luck finding your shiny :)
 

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Totoro -- great guide -- I'm really, really glad your doing it. Here's a couple of notes I jotted down as I read it.

**Wow! you've got such a great way of writing – easy going, informative, and just the right amount of quirkiness. It's just SO great. I love the crickets and Catbus – and by the way, who the heck is Catbus? I wish he (she?) would contribute to this forum!

**I like how you have links back to Bulbagarden – I think we all agree that this forum is a good place for noobs to know about. Some may find your little write-up independent of Bulbagarden but they’ll get tied in if they follow the link.

**Totoro -- I think you should put a link to your guide in your signature so that it continues to appear every time you make a post here (if the reader has their settings such that signatures are visible). In fact, I'm sure you won't mind -- I'm going to add a link to your guide in my signature. That way, there's a good chance folks new to chaining will see the link and access this great source of information.

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- Maybe there should be a disclaimer about the fourth ring rule. I don't think that we really have enough proof that only the fourth ring is any good, especially because Crownfire is a very successful chainer and he doesn't use this method. Maybe just say something about how it's a safe rule to follow and works for many people, and it is easy to keep track of the amount of steps that way, but that there is no certain proof that breaking this rule will end your chain.

That's right Duke, I don't follow the 4th ring (or box as Skye calls it) rule. I follow Skye's suggestion to go to the farthest shaking patch which sometimes occurs in the 3rd box. As Skye says in post #1501 --- "Now I know. In situations like this I go to box three since five is obviously higher than four."

But also, remember, it's not just Skye's suggestion -- it's in the game itself. Remember when Rowan gives you the Poke Radar and then you talk with your friend out in front of the lab and your friend has all those great suggestions? Your friend mentions something about using the Poke Radar to go to "the farthest patch" and you'll find something special. I can't remember the exact words but it certainly is nothing like "go to the 4th ring" or anything like that -- my recollection is that it's definitely something about the farthest patch. That's one of the things I'm looking forward to paying attention to as I progress through Platinum.

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And when you think about it -- You know how a lot of folks say you shouldn't go to patch 0-4 because they say it's a chain breaker. Could it be the reason the chain breaks so often if you go to a patch that is 4 steps out in the 4th box is because 3 out of the 4 possibilities for a shaking patch in the 3rd box are chain breakers (equal to or more than 4 steps)? That's my current theory backed up by a bunch of instances going to 0-4 when the patch in the 3rd box is at 0-3 -- I haven't had it break in that situation in the last few months since I've been working on that hypothesis.
 

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**Wow! you've got such a great way of writing – easy going, informative, and just the right amount of quirkiness. It's just SO great. I love the crickets and Catbus – and by the way, who the heck is Catbus? I wish he (she?) would contribute to this forum!

I thought Catbus was the bus in 'My Neighbour Totoro' anime movie.
 
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