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Re: Shiny Pokemon with the Pokeradar

Isn't this thread about shiny pokemon caught with the PokeRadar? There should be no discussion of shinies outside that here.

While that is true...I was asking because of the fact that it may be a hack.
 

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Re: Shiny Pokemon with the Pokeradar

chaining in platinum is the reverse because normal patches are the easiest to identify, and brighter patches are confusing with their bright glow especailly in daylight. the patches shake now
and actually are stress free when chaining.I paln on chaining croagunk,but they are 10% hi!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats seems a little easier. I plan on chaining houndour when I get the pokeradar and ponyta, shiny ponyta looks pretty cool.
 

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Bad news for chainers out there: Shinies can now be easily bred on Platinum. Using these two links, anyone can get any shiny they want as long as it can be bred.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1821878&postcount=1

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1839552&postcount=487

So not only are you guaranteed that it's shiny and has a good nature, but you can also influence its IVs. I've already gotten a 13/31/30/x/23/31 shiny Jolly Chimchar with this, and I'm on my second Chimchar now, a Naive one.

Just thought you guys should know about it.
 

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Re: Shiny Pokemon with the Pokeradar

Bad news for chainers out there: Shinies can now be easily bred on Platinum. Using these two links, anyone can get any shiny they want as long as it can be bred.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1821878&postcount=1

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1839552&postcount=487

So not only are you guaranteed that it's shiny and has a good nature, but you can also influence its IVs. I've already gotten a 13/31/30/x/23/31 shiny Jolly Chimchar with this, and I'm on my second Chimchar now, a Naive one.

Just thought you guys should know about it.

made no sense to m e if somebod can explain it then ill try it...

whats a seed? what in the world is an rng?
 

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Re: Shiny Pokemon with the Pokeradar

Bad news for chainers out there: Shinies can now be easily bred on Platinum. Using these two links, anyone can get any shiny they want as long as it can be bred.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1821878&postcount=1

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1839552&postcount=487

So not only are you guaranteed that it's shiny and has a good nature, but you can also influence its IVs. I've already gotten a 13/31/30/x/23/31 shiny Jolly Chimchar with this, and I'm on my second Chimchar now, a Naive one.

Just thought you guys should know about it.
looks like a smart person thing ill stick to running to the farthest patch much simpler
 

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Re: Shiny Pokemon with the Pokeradar

Bad news for chainers out there: Shinies can now be easily bred on Platinum. Using these two links, anyone can get any shiny they want as long as it can be bred.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1821878&postcount=1

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1839552&postcount=487

So not only are you guaranteed that it's shiny and has a good nature, but you can also influence its IVs. I've already gotten a 13/31/30/x/23/31 shiny Jolly Chimchar with this, and I'm on my second Chimchar now, a Naive one.

Just thought you guys should know about it.

Well, if I understand correctly, this is not much different from the Emerald RNG, other than that the seed starts in a different place depending upon the date/time of your save file... so, I'm assuming that SID stands for secondary ID number, which means you still need an AR to determine what that number is. So honestly, this really doesn't mean a whole lot to me, other than a bunch of other people are going to be getting shiny Pokemon that I wish I could have... because it's not true that anyone can get any shiny that they want. Anyone with access to an AR can get what they want.


But I am really starting to wonder what the point in all of this is. If an AR is required to do this, why not just AR everything to hatch shiny anyway. You can argue that this method is more legit, but you still MUST cheat to a degree in order to do it. Yes, I did have this opinion when I found about it regarding the Emerald RNG, but I kept it to myself because people are going to argue and do whatever they want anyway. However, it is getting a bit out of hand, and I really only see a fine line between this and just taking the easy way out and entering the AR code to hatch all eggs as shiny - if you are already going to be using the AR on your game, why not make it just find your shiny spreads itself? Because that's cheating, but hacking into the game data so that you can manually do what the AR does isn't?

I know I probably sound mad or something, and in the end I know people are going to do whatever they want when it comes to AR and manipulating the game. But I just wanted to point out the faulty logic behind it. And I'll stick to chaining. :p
 

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I have now started my run-around-in-the-grass-outside-Pastoria-and-pray quest for a shiny East Sea Shellos! I swept Maylene with my Empoleon and Bubblebeam, of all things (hey, the thing's got a Modest nature and a Sp. Attack stat of about 111 or so...), so now begins my search! Wish me luck...I'm gonna need it :sweatdrop:
 

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Well, if I understand correctly, this is not much different from the Emerald RNG, other than that the seed starts in a different place depending upon the date/time of your save file... so, I'm assuming that SID stands for secondary ID number, which means you still need an AR to determine what that number is. So honestly, this really doesn't mean a whole lot to me, other than a bunch of other people are going to be getting shiny Pokemon that I wish I could have... because it's not true that anyone can get any shiny that they want. Anyone with access to an AR can get what they want.


But I am really starting to wonder what the point in all of this is. If an AR is required to do this, why not just AR everything to hatch shiny anyway. You can argue that this method is more legit, but you still MUST cheat to a degree in order to do it. Yes, I did have this opinion when I found about it regarding the Emerald RNG, but I kept it to myself because people are going to argue and do whatever they want anyway. However, it is getting a bit out of hand, and I really only see a fine line between this and just taking the easy way out and entering the AR code to hatch all eggs as shiny - if you are already going to be using the AR on your game, why not make it just find your shiny spreads itself? Because that's cheating, but hacking into the game data so that you can manually do what the AR does isn't?

I know I probably sound mad or something, and in the end I know people are going to do whatever they want when it comes to AR and manipulating the game. But I just wanted to point out the faulty logic behind it. And I'll stick to chaining. :p

Aww... you need an AR... i thought that maybe Sid was seed id but i guess not i dont want to cheat...
 

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I have now started my run-around-in-the-grass-outside-Pastoria-and-pray quest for a shiny East Sea Shellos! I swept Maylene with my Empoleon and Bubblebeam, of all things (hey, the thing's got a Modest nature and a Sp. Attack stat of about 111 or so...), so now begins my search! Wish me luck...I'm gonna need it :sweatdrop:


Good luck Edo-Kun i hope you get your shiny shellos
 

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Re: Shiny Pokemon with the Pokeradar

Bad news for chainers out there: Shinies can now be easily bred on Platinum. Using these two links, anyone can get any shiny they want as long as it can be bred.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1821878&postcount=1

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1839552&postcount=487

So not only are you guaranteed that it's shiny and has a good nature, but you can also influence its IVs. I've already gotten a 13/31/30/x/23/31 shiny Jolly Chimchar with this, and I'm on my second Chimchar now, a Naive one.

Just thought you guys should know about it.

Interesting...but I agree with Dukeburger...it's just basically more hacking. And...to me it's a lot like finding out you can just punch in a code and have the 8 gym badges...what's the fun? I paid for a GAME, which is why I play it straight, and why I love chaining...not so much for the end result, but for the puzzle and challenge of it. Those people hatching shinies will not have the enjoyment we have from learning and mastering the game of hunting shinies for real with a pokeradar. Plus, they will NEVER see those flashy patches that make this so much fun...seriously, those are better than the shinies themselves to me. So, don't distress folks, just continue to enjoy the game as you have been!

Now about this issue of needing Manaphy to complete your Sinnoh National Dex...that's about all that's keeping me from my poke'radar. My shiny team walloped Cyrus and then the Elite Four...Giratina has been tamed and the three Pixies are all peacefully resting in their lake caves (gonna leave them there and transfer my Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf from Diamond or Pearl...I like knowing they're nested in those caves for some reason). But...I will have to see if I have a Manaphy in D or P before I start grumbling about the silliness of having to rely on another game or a trade to finish the Nationaldex! Actually, I'm pretty pleased at the ease of recent event pokemon. I once thought it was impossible to get these, but now find them to be very attainable. Hopefully the next game comes out soon after Arceus is finally released in the US. Still feel for people living where these events don't show, but at least they can trade on wifi.

Good luck everyone!!
 
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Well, if I understand correctly, this is not much different from the Emerald RNG, other than that the seed starts in a different place depending upon the date/time of your save file... so, I'm assuming that SID stands for secondary ID number, which means you still need an AR to determine what that number is. So honestly, this really doesn't mean a whole lot to me, other than a bunch of other people are going to be getting shiny Pokemon that I wish I could have... because it's not true that anyone can get any shiny that they want. Anyone with access to an AR can get what they want.


But I am really starting to wonder what the point in all of this is. If an AR is required to do this, why not just AR everything to hatch shiny anyway. You can argue that this method is more legit, but you still MUST cheat to a degree in order to do it. Yes, I did have this opinion when I found about it regarding the Emerald RNG, but I kept it to myself because people are going to argue and do whatever they want anyway. However, it is getting a bit out of hand, and I really only see a fine line between this and just taking the easy way out and entering the AR code to hatch all eggs as shiny - if you are already going to be using the AR on your game, why not make it just find your shiny spreads itself? Because that's cheating, but hacking into the game data so that you can manually do what the AR does isn't?

I know I probably sound mad or something, and in the end I know people are going to do whatever they want when it comes to AR and manipulating the game. But I just wanted to point out the faulty logic behind it. And I'll stick to chaining. :p

First off, you do not NEED an AR for this (I'm actually helping out a friend right now who isn't using an AR), but it does make it easier. You can get someone else to find your SID (Secret ID, Eevee Breeder), you can get an insane amount of Rare Candies (Around 50?) to check IVs (Emerald cloning would be the best way), and then the rest is just using the RNG reporter and... well, counting. Second, for this, you don't need to change the time; just make a note of it before you start the save file. Third, this isn't cheating. It's just taking advantage of the game's coding. It's the same thing for Emerald. You don't need to cheat to abuse the RNG. Fourth, once you get the hang of it (It's not hard so one time should do it), it's EASIER than chaining (In my opinion anyway) because you don't need to worry about any chain breaking, and you don't have to spend countless hours (Seriously, my shortest chain to 40 was 45 minutes) fighting wild Pokémon.

EDIT: Sorta sounds like I'm bashing chaining :p I'm not saying it's BAD, and I guess it could be fun for people who have a lot of patience, but franky it's gotten to the point where I just don't have the time to chain like I used to. I could only chain Ponyta because I was on a long road trip. And I've gotten to chains of 39 MANY times only to have it break on the next battle. Again, I'm not saying that chaining is bad, wrong, etc, but I just prefer this method.

Carry on.

EDIT 2: Totoro, Manaphy's dex info can be found in Mr. Backlot's room in a book.
 
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I hate to say this, but this method is royally tempting. Since I've had such horrible luck with Beldum, I'm willing to trying anything once. Well, short of hacking my game, natch. I'm curious though-- how exactly do you do all this? Do you need to downlad any programs to check the SID or RNG or anything like that? (Forgive me, but I am so completely not tech savvy!)
 

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EDIT: Sorta sounds like I'm bashing chaining :p I'm not saying it's BAD, and I guess it could be fun for people who have a lot of patience, but franky it's gotten to the point where I just don't have the time to chain like I used to. I could only chain Ponyta because I was on a long road trip. And I've gotten to chains of 39 MANY times only to have it break on the next battle. Again, I'm not saying that chaining is bad, wrong, etc, but I just prefer this method.

Carry on.

EDIT 2: Totoro, Manaphy's dex info can be found in Mr. Backlot's room in a book.

Well Wiil, you've hit on it...it is what it is...and to different people it's different things. When it comes to games, if it's fun, it is not wrong. If you care about purity, no one is preventing you from playing the game that way...if you find it fun to use AR and get exactly what you want...that is right too. Don't feel ashamed - but don't expect a lot of appreciation on a thread dedicated to playing the game a certain way either! :D

However, I do agree that while passing on this info is very appropriate in this forum (Thanks Wiil), I would be dissappointed if learning how to hack was a topic to be learned and refined here...seems like it could be it's own thread.

Also, thanks for the note on Manaphy...too late...I transferred one from Diamond along with an Adamant Synch Ralts, the 3 pixies and a Rotom (so I can maybe also try to reset for a shiny when I'm just completely bored!!) Poke'radar, here I come. Isn't Pinsir swarming in Platinum? Finally, the perfect Adamant Pinsir will be mine...LOVE THE BUGS!!!
 

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Nah, didn't expect much appreciation. Just wanted it to get out into the public. And I hope the wrong idea isn't spread; this isn't hacking. The game generates the shiny, not a fancy AR code. I used my AR for two things: Finding my Secret ID, and checking the IVs of the Pokémon I caught so I could know what frame I'm on when I start. If that is what you call hacking, so be it. I guess I'm a hacker. However, if I am a hacker, why would I be bothering to BREED a shiny when I could just hack one?

To get back on subject, I don't have a Magby/Magmar/Magmortar, so I think I'll chain that after I'm done abusing the RNG :p

EDIT: Maybe I should make a thread for it if enough people ask me to...
 

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Nah, didn't expect much appreciation. Just wanted it to get out into the public. And I hope the wrong idea isn't spread; this isn't hacking. The game generates the shiny, not a fancy AR code. I used my AR for two things: Finding my Secret ID, and checking the IVs of the Pokémon I caught so I could know what frame I'm on when I start. If that is what you call hacking, so be it. I guess I'm a hacker. However, if I am a hacker, why would I be bothering to BREED a shiny when I could just hack one?

Because you want to convince yourself that it is completely legitimate? Unless it is and I'm just misunderstanding you, but isn't an AR absolutely necessary (whether it is your's or someone else's) in order for you to know what your secret ID is so that you can get the shinies? If I am wrong, then how else do you find out your secret ID? I thought the only way was by... well, hacking.

So if that's true, then it is really just a matter of opinion as to whether it is cheating or not. Sure, you can say that it's not cheating, but that doesn't make it definitive. A lot of people would disagree, because it requires an outside device. I do personally think that once an outside device enters the equation... it's cheating. It's something that won't ever be unanimously agreed upon.

Now, it's your game, so you can do whatever the heck you want (I don't mean you specifically, Wiil, I mean "you" as in whoever does this). But I have to disagree on one thing... how is this NOT hacking if it requires hacking to get started?

Don't get me wrong or anything, I'm not angry nor have I lost any respect for you or anything like that, Wiil. I just find the logic behind this to be very poor. You argue that this method makes things easier, but that's the same logic of people who blatantly put in AR codes to make everything hatch shiny. Yeah, hacking into your game, whether you do it for your secret ID or take the ultimate shortcut and just force your AR to do the work of finding your shiny spreads, is always going to be easier. Of course, I totally apologize and will retract everything I've said if there is in fact a legit way of finding out your secret ID without the use of a cheating device.

Now this is certainly off-topic, so maybe it does deserve its own thread. I'll just end once again saying that I will continue chaining until I am proven wrong, and that there IS another way of getting shinies easier that involves no cheating device.

EDIT: Re-reading this, I really do sound abrasive. As I just explained to someone, this whole thing doesn't actually bother me, I was mainly just trying to defend chaining, and to make a point out of why I still prefer to do so.
 
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Because you want to convince yourself that it is completely legitimate? Unless it is and I'm just misunderstanding you, but isn't an AR absolutely necessary (whether it is your's or someone else's) in order for you to know what your secret ID is so that you can get the shinies? If I am wrong, then how else do you find out your secret ID? I thought the only way was by... well, hacking.

So if that's true, then it is really just a matter of opinion as to whether it is cheating or not. Sure, you can say that it's not cheating, but that doesn't make it definitive. A lot of people would disagree, because it requires an outside device. I do personally think that once an outside device enters the equation... it's cheating. It's something that won't ever be unanimously agreed upon.

Now, it's your game, so you can do whatever the heck you want (I don't mean you specifically, Wiil, I mean "you" as in whoever does this). But I have to disagree on one thing... how is this NOT hacking if it requires hacking to get started?

Don't get me wrong or anything, I'm not angry nor have I lost any respect for you or anything like that, Wiil. I just find the logic behind this to be very poor. You argue that this method makes things easier, but that's the same logic of people who blatantly put in AR codes to make everything hatch shiny. Yeah, hacking into your game, whether you do it for your secret ID or take the ultimate shortcut and just force your AR to do the work of finding your shiny spreads, is always going to be easier. Of course, I totally apologize and will retract everything I've said if there is in fact a legit way of finding out your secret ID without the use of a cheating device.

Now this is certainly off-topic, so maybe it does deserve its own thread. I'll just end once again saying that I will continue chaining until I am proven wrong, and that there IS another way of getting shinies easier that involves no cheating device.

Chain anything good lately? I am SRing for a shiny Giratina right now...
 

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Chain anything good lately? I am SRing for a shiny Giratina right now...

Unfortunately no, but I'm gonna go for Croagunk really soon, as I have next week off for spring break. Shiny Giratina is pretty cool. I managed to get a legit-looking one off the GTS, so watching it hang out on Ranch is good enough for me.
 

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Unfortunately no, but I'm gonna go for Croagunk really soon, as I have next week off for spring break. Shiny Giratina is pretty cool. I managed to get a legit-looking one off the GTS, so watching it hang out on Ranch is good enough for me.

Aww thats cool Im sorry you havent chained anything latly... I really want to strat chining so i want to continue my game im torn between shiny giratina and working towards my pokeradar...
 

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Ok...so my quest to randomly run into a shiny Shellos isn't working too well. :-/ I had an idea, though. If I made my Roselia remember Sweet Scent (it evolved after it would have learned it), and abused it over and over again, could that work too?
 

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I swear, I'm never going to get that stupid Vibrava. Never. No matter how hard I try, my chain usually breaks around the high teens or low twenties. It's irritating. (I'm not going to stop trying though.)
EDIT: Maybe I should make a thread for it if enough people ask me to...
Yes, please. This whole RNG thing is a bit confusing for little ol' me. :dumb:
 
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