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And I found about a lot of things that were changed in the anime. I'll put my comments in bold.
So, what do you think?
-Takeshi Shudo had story plans for Johto including Celebi being inside the GS Ball
and finding out more about Ash's father. He also had plans on ending the anime with the Pokemon revolting against humans with Pikachu as the leader and Meowth as an ambassador, Misty being an invocation of Faux Action Girl, and a general implication that Pokemon training is as much Fantastic Cockfighting as Moral Guardians feared. All these ideas were scrapped and we ended up with the show we have now because of it, for better or worse.
Wasn't Ash's father supposed to be a deadbeat that never achieved anything in his plans? Because I don't know how Ash would take it if he met him. Also, it looks like Shudo was originally going to be Chiaki Konaka's predecessor in making kid's anime darker.
The early
◊ Pokémon previews from Nintendo Power
◊ provided different English names for the titles and organizations we come to know of, as well as unused concept art from the anime. For starters, the shortened name Pokémon was originally "Poke-Mon", with a hyphen in the middle and no é. Pokémon Trainers were also going to be called Pokémon hunters as well, while Team Rocket was originally going to be called the Rocket Society. Jessie and James were originally wearing the black Rocket uniform with white gloves and boots, being more closer to the Rocket Grunt designs instead of their classic white uniform and black gloves and boots (with the exception of early BW).
I remember the old Team Rocket artwork. James had a black beret instead of a rose. However, "Rocket Society" is not as catchy as Team Rocket.
Ash's original partner in the anime was supposed to be a Clefairy instead of a Pikachu. Isamu from Pocket Monsters (which is the second adaptation of the series, predating the anime) has both a Clefairy and a Pikachu as a reference to Clefairy being the original series mascot. Think about it: if successful as a franchise icon as Pikachu has been, Super Smash Bros. players could have been able to play as a Clefairy that could Metronome other fighters' Final Smashes for its own Final Smash... Another choice for Ash's original partner was also a Jigglypuff, but one who couldn't sing.
Dammit! Now I want Clefairy in Smash instead of Pikachu! Also, wouldn't an aphonic Jigglybuff beat the point of the species?
The anime was originally just supposed to last through Kanto
, with an assumed ending of Ash defeating Gary and winning the Pokémon League. Here's one to consider in light of that 18-month report: Pokémon Gold and Silver was originally scheduled for release in Late 1997, but was delayed to be adapted for the Game Boy Color. The first episode of the Anime aired on April 1, 1997, and because of the delay to Gold and Silver, the Orange Island filler arc was created.
Oh, right... I forgot the Orange Islands exist thanks to Gen II's development hell. That would still be a better ending than the canon one.
The very first trailer
for the movie Mewtwo Strikes Back! in Japan, it is completely made out of scenes that didn't make it to the final product; the grown-up Misty segment, in particular, is a huge source of speculation and discussion withing the fandom, specially by taking account the movie would be the Grand Finale for the anime.
Forget grown-up Misty. I want to know why Jesse and James are on top of a battleship(?).
Media Blaster wanted to release uncut DVDs in America at one point, but of course Viz got the rights and they were unable to do this.
*sigh* If only...
There was originally going to be an episode (probably just a Clip Show based on its title, "It's New Year's Eve! Pocket Monsters Encore") that celebrated the Japanese New Year during the Kanto run. This episode was intended to air soon after the infamous Porygon "seizure" episode, so production was halted, and after a while simply cancelled.
I know it was possibly a clip show, but I'm curious about what happened to it.
The GS Ball was originally going to contain a Celebi that was to star in a large portion of the Johto arc. After Pokemon 4Ever came out, it was decided that having a Celebi in the anime right after a movie featuring Celebi would be redundant, so the idea was shelved.
I would have preferred an "it didn't have anything" ending instead of just leaving the plotline to rot. At least people would stop asking for it every time if they did that.
Pokémon 3 was originally set to address the question of "What happened to real-world animals in the Pokemon universe"
and instead of Entei and the Unown (Gold and Silver had been delayed at this point of development and they were unsure about doing another movie debut Pokemon) the focal point would be the reanimated fossils of a Tyrannosaurus rex.
That's actually kind of insane. I wonder if there's a fanfic based on this. On second thought, maybe I should not look for it.
According to ADR director Tom Wayland, in Pokémon: Arceus and the Jewel of Life Arceus was originally going to be voiced by actor Vincent D'Onofrio of Full Metal Jacket and Men in Black fame. However, before his recording session, there were difficulties with D'Onofrio's agent and he was unable to record for the movie. After re-auditioning, Tom Wayland himself was chosen to voice Arceus instead.
*googles name* He was the cockroach monster from Men in Black? I-I don't know what to think.
Team Plasma was supposed to make their debut appearances in Castelia City during Best Wishes, but their episodes were indefinitely postponed after the 2011 earthquake and tsunami disaster, as the episodes featured Castelia City being destroyed. This plus the Black 2 / White 2 games utilizing a different incarnation of Team Plasma led to the originally intended arc for Team Plasma in the anime being scrapped altogether.
I'm kinda curious how that would have played out. Oh well...
A related episode about a fishing competition in Castelia City was also postponed, but was broadcast without any references to the original setting of Castelia City.
Didn't they recycle animations from the Castelia episodes to make Bianca leave instead of join, or did I misunderstand something?
When the Advanced Generation was in pre-production, there was a discussion on who would get Put on a Bus, Misty or Team Rocket. Misty leaving the show was controversial enough, but one wonders how much the fandom would have flipped their lids if Team Rocket left.
I don't think the fandom would have taken it well.
Team Rocket was also going to be Put on a Bus in Best Wishes, but their fans in the production staff vetoed the decision. Ironically, their intended write-off was still advertised as their Grand Finale, just to test the waters with fans as to how the idea of them leaving would pan out. The answer was "not well".}
I guess by now, they are competing with the Time Bokan villainous trio to see who will give up first.
Takeshi Shudo had story plans for finding out more about Ash's father. This idea was scrapped and we ended up with the show we have now because of it.
Judging by his original plans, I'm thankful they didn't go through with it.
Early previews for Spell of the Unown refer to it as Tower of the Unown.
Pretty minor change.
Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea was supposedly going to focused on Jackie Walker as the protagonist, along with Manaphy as his sidekick, but this shifted around as May became a more interesting viewpoint for the story and they realized how May and Manaphy's Mother/"Son" dynamic might appear to be recycling Misty and Togepi.
I would almost like to see a Pokémon movie without Ash. I know there's Detective Pikachu, but I don't like the models used in that movie.
Latias from Pokémon Heroes was originally meant to join Ash for at least the remainder of the Johto season, but that plan was scrapped possibly due to the staff not willing to work with a serious Pokemon/Human relationship on a kid's show (then again Bayleaf did like Ash too).
The Bayleef thing at least was one-sided. This would have been pretty creepy in my opinion.
The podcast bumper for the original Japanese airing of "Unova's Survival Crisis" gave the audience a telephone poll over which Pokemon they wanted to return to Team Rocket; Wobbuffet, Mime. Jr or Dustox. While we know who won the poll, one has to wonder how XY would have played if Mime. Jr or even Dustox inexplicably rejoined
I don't really remember how they left Mime Jr., but I do recall that Dustox was released in a rehashed "Bye, Bye Butterfree". I guess it would have been kinda weird to see anyone return. Also what happened with Wobbuffet?
Another bit of Shudo-related early days trivia came to light in 2016: aside from the possible ending shown in the earliest Mewtwo Strikes Back! trailer, he also had an idea for an ending
that involved an old Satoshi reminiscing about his childhood, and remembering the series; yet it was clear that it had mostly been the fantasy of one young boy and it had faded as he had aged. It would end, then, with Satoshi closing his eyes, hearing his mother's voice... and a young Satoshi running off to another adventure, raising the question of whether being a dream even mattered. That would have been quite a tone shift for the anime series and taken successor series in a much different direction.
Not only that, Fanfic writers would have a field day with it. It's almost a positive version of the "Captain Tsubasa takes place in Tsubasa's head and he lost his legs" theory that is pretty common in LA.
Ash's original dub name was "Casey". This was shown in an early trailer and later confirmed again by Veronica Taylor. The name was later given to a recurring female character in the Johto seasons, who is, quite fittingly, a baseball fan.
I wonder what trailer it was. The only pre-release one I have seen is the one with live-action actors. You know, the one with Ash's Science teacher. Wait, Ash had a formal education?
Seeing as the majority of the show is now available on Disney's streaming apps, there is the possibility that, had Turner Broadcasting not lost the rights, the show would have ended up on their Boomerang streaming service.
*shrugs*
NOT FROM TVTROPES AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE LEGIT OR NOT. MIGHT COME FROM SHUDO'S NOVEL(S) AND BLOGS
Ash's dad was apparently a deadbeat that never achieved anything in life. Delia lied to Ash telling him that he was a powerful trainer.
Yikes, that's kinda dark.
Gym Leaders were going to be fired if they lost three times in a row.
Isn't this too harsh? Specially since everyone could look up in the Internet what types the Gym Leader used beforehand.
The Pokémon rebellion was going to be the fourth movie.
I'm still glad it wasn't made. That would be like telling the moral guardians (and PETA) "yup, you were right".
and finding out more about Ash's father. He also had plans on ending the anime with the Pokemon revolting against humans with Pikachu as the leader and Meowth as an ambassador, Misty being an invocation of Faux Action Girl, and a general implication that Pokemon training is as much Fantastic Cockfighting as Moral Guardians feared. All these ideas were scrapped and we ended up with the show we have now because of it, for better or worse.Wasn't Ash's father supposed to be a deadbeat that never achieved anything in his plans? Because I don't know how Ash would take it if he met him. Also, it looks like Shudo was originally going to be Chiaki Konaka's predecessor in making kid's anime darker.
The early
◊ Pokémon previews from Nintendo Power
◊ provided different English names for the titles and organizations we come to know of, as well as unused concept art from the anime. For starters, the shortened name Pokémon was originally "Poke-Mon", with a hyphen in the middle and no é. Pokémon Trainers were also going to be called Pokémon hunters as well, while Team Rocket was originally going to be called the Rocket Society. Jessie and James were originally wearing the black Rocket uniform with white gloves and boots, being more closer to the Rocket Grunt designs instead of their classic white uniform and black gloves and boots (with the exception of early BW).I remember the old Team Rocket artwork. James had a black beret instead of a rose. However, "Rocket Society" is not as catchy as Team Rocket.
Ash's original partner in the anime was supposed to be a Clefairy instead of a Pikachu. Isamu from Pocket Monsters (which is the second adaptation of the series, predating the anime) has both a Clefairy and a Pikachu as a reference to Clefairy being the original series mascot. Think about it: if successful as a franchise icon as Pikachu has been, Super Smash Bros. players could have been able to play as a Clefairy that could Metronome other fighters' Final Smashes for its own Final Smash... Another choice for Ash's original partner was also a Jigglypuff, but one who couldn't sing.
Dammit! Now I want Clefairy in Smash instead of Pikachu! Also, wouldn't an aphonic Jigglybuff beat the point of the species?
The anime was originally just supposed to last through Kanto
, with an assumed ending of Ash defeating Gary and winning the Pokémon League. Here's one to consider in light of that 18-month report: Pokémon Gold and Silver was originally scheduled for release in Late 1997, but was delayed to be adapted for the Game Boy Color. The first episode of the Anime aired on April 1, 1997, and because of the delay to Gold and Silver, the Orange Island filler arc was created.Oh, right... I forgot the Orange Islands exist thanks to Gen II's development hell. That would still be a better ending than the canon one.
The very first trailer
for the movie Mewtwo Strikes Back! in Japan, it is completely made out of scenes that didn't make it to the final product; the grown-up Misty segment, in particular, is a huge source of speculation and discussion withing the fandom, specially by taking account the movie would be the Grand Finale for the anime.Forget grown-up Misty. I want to know why Jesse and James are on top of a battleship(?).
Media Blaster wanted to release uncut DVDs in America at one point, but of course Viz got the rights and they were unable to do this.
*sigh* If only...
There was originally going to be an episode (probably just a Clip Show based on its title, "It's New Year's Eve! Pocket Monsters Encore") that celebrated the Japanese New Year during the Kanto run. This episode was intended to air soon after the infamous Porygon "seizure" episode, so production was halted, and after a while simply cancelled.
I know it was possibly a clip show, but I'm curious about what happened to it.
The GS Ball was originally going to contain a Celebi that was to star in a large portion of the Johto arc. After Pokemon 4Ever came out, it was decided that having a Celebi in the anime right after a movie featuring Celebi would be redundant, so the idea was shelved.
I would have preferred an "it didn't have anything" ending instead of just leaving the plotline to rot. At least people would stop asking for it every time if they did that.
Pokémon 3 was originally set to address the question of "What happened to real-world animals in the Pokemon universe"
and instead of Entei and the Unown (Gold and Silver had been delayed at this point of development and they were unsure about doing another movie debut Pokemon) the focal point would be the reanimated fossils of a Tyrannosaurus rex.That's actually kind of insane. I wonder if there's a fanfic based on this. On second thought, maybe I should not look for it.
According to ADR director Tom Wayland, in Pokémon: Arceus and the Jewel of Life Arceus was originally going to be voiced by actor Vincent D'Onofrio of Full Metal Jacket and Men in Black fame. However, before his recording session, there were difficulties with D'Onofrio's agent and he was unable to record for the movie. After re-auditioning, Tom Wayland himself was chosen to voice Arceus instead.
*googles name* He was the cockroach monster from Men in Black? I-I don't know what to think.
Team Plasma was supposed to make their debut appearances in Castelia City during Best Wishes, but their episodes were indefinitely postponed after the 2011 earthquake and tsunami disaster, as the episodes featured Castelia City being destroyed. This plus the Black 2 / White 2 games utilizing a different incarnation of Team Plasma led to the originally intended arc for Team Plasma in the anime being scrapped altogether.
I'm kinda curious how that would have played out. Oh well...
A related episode about a fishing competition in Castelia City was also postponed, but was broadcast without any references to the original setting of Castelia City.
Didn't they recycle animations from the Castelia episodes to make Bianca leave instead of join, or did I misunderstand something?
When the Advanced Generation was in pre-production, there was a discussion on who would get Put on a Bus, Misty or Team Rocket. Misty leaving the show was controversial enough, but one wonders how much the fandom would have flipped their lids if Team Rocket left.
I don't think the fandom would have taken it well.
Team Rocket was also going to be Put on a Bus in Best Wishes, but their fans in the production staff vetoed the decision. Ironically, their intended write-off was still advertised as their Grand Finale, just to test the waters with fans as to how the idea of them leaving would pan out. The answer was "not well".}
I guess by now, they are competing with the Time Bokan villainous trio to see who will give up first.
Takeshi Shudo had story plans for finding out more about Ash's father. This idea was scrapped and we ended up with the show we have now because of it.
Judging by his original plans, I'm thankful they didn't go through with it.
Early previews for Spell of the Unown refer to it as Tower of the Unown.
Pretty minor change.
Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea was supposedly going to focused on Jackie Walker as the protagonist, along with Manaphy as his sidekick, but this shifted around as May became a more interesting viewpoint for the story and they realized how May and Manaphy's Mother/"Son" dynamic might appear to be recycling Misty and Togepi.
I would almost like to see a Pokémon movie without Ash. I know there's Detective Pikachu, but I don't like the models used in that movie.
Latias from Pokémon Heroes was originally meant to join Ash for at least the remainder of the Johto season, but that plan was scrapped possibly due to the staff not willing to work with a serious Pokemon/Human relationship on a kid's show (then again Bayleaf did like Ash too).
The Bayleef thing at least was one-sided. This would have been pretty creepy in my opinion.
The podcast bumper for the original Japanese airing of "Unova's Survival Crisis" gave the audience a telephone poll over which Pokemon they wanted to return to Team Rocket; Wobbuffet, Mime. Jr or Dustox. While we know who won the poll, one has to wonder how XY would have played if Mime. Jr or even Dustox inexplicably rejoined
I don't really remember how they left Mime Jr., but I do recall that Dustox was released in a rehashed "Bye, Bye Butterfree". I guess it would have been kinda weird to see anyone return. Also what happened with Wobbuffet?
Another bit of Shudo-related early days trivia came to light in 2016: aside from the possible ending shown in the earliest Mewtwo Strikes Back! trailer, he also had an idea for an ending
that involved an old Satoshi reminiscing about his childhood, and remembering the series; yet it was clear that it had mostly been the fantasy of one young boy and it had faded as he had aged. It would end, then, with Satoshi closing his eyes, hearing his mother's voice... and a young Satoshi running off to another adventure, raising the question of whether being a dream even mattered. That would have been quite a tone shift for the anime series and taken successor series in a much different direction.Not only that, Fanfic writers would have a field day with it. It's almost a positive version of the "Captain Tsubasa takes place in Tsubasa's head and he lost his legs" theory that is pretty common in LA.
Ash's original dub name was "Casey". This was shown in an early trailer and later confirmed again by Veronica Taylor. The name was later given to a recurring female character in the Johto seasons, who is, quite fittingly, a baseball fan.
I wonder what trailer it was. The only pre-release one I have seen is the one with live-action actors. You know, the one with Ash's Science teacher. Wait, Ash had a formal education?
Seeing as the majority of the show is now available on Disney's streaming apps, there is the possibility that, had Turner Broadcasting not lost the rights, the show would have ended up on their Boomerang streaming service.
*shrugs*
NOT FROM TVTROPES AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE LEGIT OR NOT. MIGHT COME FROM SHUDO'S NOVEL(S) AND BLOGS
Ash's dad was apparently a deadbeat that never achieved anything in life. Delia lied to Ash telling him that he was a powerful trainer.
Yikes, that's kinda dark.
Gym Leaders were going to be fired if they lost three times in a row.
Isn't this too harsh? Specially since everyone could look up in the Internet what types the Gym Leader used beforehand.
The Pokémon rebellion was going to be the fourth movie.
I'm still glad it wasn't made. That would be like telling the moral guardians (and PETA) "yup, you were right".
So, what do you think?
