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SPOILERS: Demo Datamine Discussion

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This thread is for discussion on the information obtained from the Sun and Moon demo as it is being datamined.

NOTE: DO NOT DISCUSS THIS OUTSIDE OF THIS THREAD OR ANOTHER APPROPRIATELY MARKED ONE TO KEEP THE OTHER THREADS SPOILER FREE FOR PEOPLE WHO ONLY WANT INFORMATION FROM OFFICIAL SOURCES AND PLAYING FOR THEMSELVES

The Datamine Videos:
Part 1 (stats demo Pokémon, four new moves)
Part 2 (sprites of the new Pokémon)
Part 3 (shiny sprites of the new Pokémon)
Part 4 (moves, items and TMs)
Part 5 (item changes, weather effects, item images, map)

All the new Pokémon:
-73 New Pokemon
-8 Ultra Beasts
-18 Alolan forms
alola mons1.jpg alola mons2.jpg alola mons3.jpg

New moves:
98 new moves in total (719, up from 621 in ORAS).
29/98 are Z-Moves. 18/29 are regular Z-Moves, one for each type. But 11/29 Z-Moves are exclusive Z-Moves like Pulverzing Pancake for Snorlax, Stoked Sparksurfer for Alolan Raichu etc.
Psychic Terrain - Pokemon on the ground will not be hit by priority moves and increases the power of Psychic moves.
Laser Focus - the move used on the turn after Laster Focus will always crit.
Throat Chop - Pokemon hit can't used sound moves for two turns
Aurora Veil - halves power of physical and special attack for five turns.

List of TM's:
TM59, TM67 and TM70 are new moves of which the name is unknown.
list tms.png

Key Items:
key items.png

The map:
The animal sprites are what you see on the map if you scan a QR-code of a Pokémon and the Dex shows you where its habitat is.
the map.png

Other changes:
-No HMs (Fly, Surf and Waterfall are now TMs)
-Paralysis now only reduces Speed by 50% rather than 75%
-Ash-Greninja's base stats are: 72/145/67/153/71/132
- Super Potion heals 60HP (was 50), Hyper Potion heals 120HP (was 200) and now costs 1500 (was 1200)
- Vending Machine drinks heal 30/50/70 (was 50/60/80) and cost 200/300/400 (was 200/300/350).
- X-Stat items increase the stat by 2 stages (was 1 stage)
- No new Weather types
- Poké Finder has 5 versions
- There are new ribbons:
ribbons.png

Alola regional dex:
Rowlet
Dartrix
[Dartrix Evo]
Litten
Torracat
[Torracat Evo]
Popplio
Brionne
[Brionne Evo]
Pikipek
[Pikipek Evo]
[Pikipek Evo2]
Yungoos
Gumshoos
Rattata
Raticate
Caterpie
Metapod
Butterfree
Ledyba
Ledian
Spinarak
Ariados
Pichu
Pikachu
Raichu
Grubbin
Charjabug
Vikavolt
Bonsly
Sudowoodo
Happiny
Chansey
Blissey
Munchlax
Snorlax
Slowpoke
Slowbro
Slowking
Wingull
Pelipper
Abra
Kadabra
Alakazam
Meowth
Persian
Magnemite
Magneton
Magnezone
Grimer
Muk
Growlithe
Arcanine
Drowzee
Hypno
Makuhita
Hariyama
Smeargle
Crabrawler
[Crabrawler Evo]
Gastly
Haunter
Gengar
Drifloon
Drifblim
Misdreavus
Mismagius
Zubat
Golbat
Crobat
Diglett
Dugtrio
Spearow
Fearow
Rufflet
Braviary
Vullaby
Mandibuzz
Mankey
Primeape
Delibird
Oricorio
Cutiefly
Ribombee
Petilil
Lilligant
Cottonee
Whimsicott
Psyduck
Golduck
Magikarp
Gyarados
Barboach
Whiscash
Machop
Machoke
Machamp
Roggenrola
Boldore
Gigalith
Carbink
Sableye
Rockruff
Lycanroc
Spinda
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Finneon
Lumineon
Wishiwashi
Luvdisc
Corsola
[Urchin]
[Urchin Evo]
Shellder
Cloyster
Bagon
Shelgon
Salamence
Tapu Koko
Lillipup
Herdier
Stoutland
Eevee
Vaporeon
Jolteon
Flareon
Espeon
Umbreon
Leafeon
Glaceon
Sylveon
Mudbray
Mudsdale
Igglybuff
Jigglypuff
Wigglytuff
Tauros
Miltank
Surskit
Masquerain
[Water Spider]
[Water Spider Evo]
Fomantis
Lurantis
Morelull
[Morelull Evo]
Paras
Parasect
Poliwag
Poliwhirl
Poliwrath
Politoed
Goldeen
Seaking
Feebas
Milotic
Alomomola
Fletchling
Fletchinder
Talonflame
Salandit
[Salandit Evo]
Cubone
Marowak
Kangaskhan
Magby
Magmar
Magmortar
Stufful
Bewear
Bounsweet
Steenee
Tsareena
Comfey
Pinsir
Oranguru
Passimian
Goomy
Sliggoo
Goodra
Castform
Wimpod
[Wimpod Evo]
Staryu
Starmie
Sandygast
Palossand
Cranidos
Rampardos
Shieldon
Bastiodon
Archen
Archeops
Tirtouga
Carracosta
Phantump
Trevenant
Nosepass
Probopass
Pyukumuku
Chinchou
Lanturn
[Pink Tapu Koko]
Trubbish
Garbodor
Skarmory
Ditto
Cleffa
Clefairy
Clefable
Minior
Beldum
Metang
Metagross
Porygon
Porygon2
Porygon-Z
Pancham
Pangoro
Komala
Torkoal
Turtonator
Togedemaru
Elekid
Electabuzz
Electivire
Geodude
Graveler
Golem
Sandile
Krokorok
Krookodile
Trapinch
Vibrava
Flygon
Gible
Gabite
Garchomp
Klefki
Mimikyu
Bruxish
Drampa
Absol
Snorunt
Glalie
Froslass
Sneasel
Weavile
Sandshrew
Sandslash
Vulpix
Ninetales
Vanillite
Vanillish
Vanilluxe
[Red Tapu]
Snubbull
Granbull
Shellos
Gastrodon
Relicanth
[Sea Anchor]
Carvanha
Sharpedo
Wailmer
Wailord
Lapras
Exeggcute
Exeggutor
Jangmo-o
Hakamo-o
Kommo-o
Emolga
Scyther
Scizor
Murkrow
Honchkrow
Riolu
Lucario
Dratini
Dragonair
Dragonite
Aerodactyl
[Purple Tapu]

Alola regional dex per island:
View: https://twitter.com/KazoWAR/status/789067224137039872


Gen 7 and Alola Forms per island:
Appears on all islands
-Pikipek line
-Yungoos line
-Rattata line
-Oricorio (duh)
-Crabrawler line
-Diglett line

Island 1 exclusives
-Starters
-Pikachu line
-Tapu Koko

Island 2 exclusives
-Bounsweet line
-Fomantis line
-Salandit line
-Comfey
-Oranguru
-Passimian
-Sandygast line
-Pyukumuku
-Cubone line
-Pink Tapu Koko

Island 3 exclusives
-Vulpix line
-Geodude line
-Sandshrew line
-Minior
-Komala
-Turtonator
-Togedemaru
-Bruxish
-Drampa
-Mimikyu
-Red Tapu Koko

Island 4 exclusives
-Jangmo-o line
-Exeggcute line
-Anchor mon
-Purple Tapu Koko

Miscellaneous
-Cutiefly line - 1, 3, 4
-Grubbin line - 1, 2, 3
-Rockruff line - 1, 4
-Wishiwashi - 1, 2 ,3
-Blue hair purple thing - 1, 2
-Water spider - 2, 3
-Mudbray line - 2, 3, 4
-Morelull line - 2, 3
-Bewear line - 2, 4
-Meowth line - 1, 3
-Wimpod line - 2, 4
-Grimer line - 1, 3
 
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Oooh, I'm very interested in the idea that the Z-Move strength is relative to the regular move you use with the crystal.
 
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I'm so hyped! I'm going to have to go to sleep in an hour or so, so hopefully there is a lot of datamined info when i wake up tomorrow ^^ I'm really excited for new pokemon if they ends up being revealed!
 
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Wait I'm confused...people seem to be hype about how fast the data was mined but it looks like there's not really any info yet on either of those pastebins? Are you all referring to the minor info that we have so far is there a ton of info somewhere that I'm not aware of?
 
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Im so ready-I heard from serebii base stats were scrubbed out. Thats too bad-I wanted to know if Vikavolt was usable. Sigh.
 
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Not much of a spoiler but Water Shuriken deals special damage now.
Yep, I was pretty excited when I saw that. Even though I sorta know why they made it physical (gotta get that water pretty solid before it can cut anything) nothing with good attack power could learn it. It's still a fairly weak attack but this will help it out a bit to keep it from being entirely useless.
 
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Have they ever changed a moves category before?(Gen3 to 4 type thing doesent count)
 
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Yep, I was pretty excited when I saw that. Even though I sorta know why they made it physical (gotta get that water pretty solid before it can cut anything) nothing with good attack power could learn it. It's still a fairly weak attack but this will help it out a bit to keep it from being entirely useless.
Lol Greninja used Water Shuriken just fine; but yeah, I'm so excited for Accelgor to use Water Shuriken effectively now!!! Lord knows she could use it, her movepool was so paltry these last two gens
 
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