Bulbapedia Suggestions, ideas, and problems

[SpinyShell]

Respectfully, in my opinion both your origins seem like a stretch as they don't really have much of a connection to myths and gremlins respectively. In both cases, I think the connections would be much more obvious if these Pokémon were truly inspired by them.

If you know the of myth, then it's almost undoubtable that Boltund and Thievul, along with their respective preevolutions, are based on Laelaps and the Teumessian Fox. And I'm very surprised it's not mentioned in their article's because I know there's someone on the wiki that knows of the myth because it's mentioned in Zacian's and Zamazenta's origins. For those who don't know, it's a Greek myth about a giant fox sent by the gods to terrorize Thebes. This fox was destined to never be able to be caught. In order to try to stop the Teumessian Fox, Laelaps, a hunting dog that was destined to catch whatever it chases, was sent after it. However, the two destinies caused a paradox, so they were turned to stone and sent into the stars as the Canis Constellations. As more evidence than just being two staged Pokemon released in the same generation as to their relation, one of Thievul's Pokedex explicitly states that Boltund is it's natural enemy. Their connection to the myth can be further seen in their Typings and their Abilities. Laelaps was said to be a gift from Zeus, god of thunder, and well Boltund is an Electric type, while the Teumessian Fox was just generally malicious, fitting with the Dark Type. Yamper's ability, Ball Fetch helps with catching Pokemon, while Nickit's and Thievul's ability, Run Away, helps with evading capture.

I don't think this is the case. None of the two lines ever reference or hint at the legend, and any attributes that you credit to the myth have much more simple and obvious origins; Occam's razor suggests these are the actual inspirations. The Thievel line's Dark type can be explained by the fact that foxes are commonly depicted as sneaky tricksters in folklore, which is very fitting for the Dark type. Not to mention that Thievel and Nickit are based on thieves; this, along with the two lines' references to fox hunting, are probably also the reason why they have Run Away as an ability. Boltund appears to be based on hounds that hunt foxes, hence why it is Thievel's natural enemy, and Yamper's ability is obviously just a reference to the fact that dogs like to play fetch.

However, I will say that there is enough of a possible connection between the Electric typing of Boltund's line and Lealaps being a gift from Zeus, in my opinion.

I believe the Dragapult line may take some inspirations from Gremlins. Gremlins are mischievous folkloric creatures that were blamed for unexplainable malfunctions in aircrafts, with it's tales originating from United Kingdom's Royal Air Force during World War II. Though there's no definitive design for Gremlins, but there are two main categories, the early ones which are a bit like little elves and gnomes seen in World War II posters and the Roald Dahl and Disney book, The Gremlins, and the modern take, small greenish goblin-like creature with large pointy ears, and sometimes a bit reptilian and aquatic, with the most popular design being that of Gremlins (1984). It's so popular in fact it's hard finding any other designs from a Google search. It's this more modern take that I believe the Dragapult line takes it's inspirations from, being well greenish, reptilian, and aquatic, along with their crests somewhat resembling those large pointed ears. So I think there should a little "This pokemon may also take some inspirations from Gremlins, creatures of folklore that were blamed for malfunctions in aircrafts" at the end.

The Dragapult line shares nothing in common with gremlins outside of a connection to aircraft. Lore-wise, nothing about them suggests a penchant for mischief, the core motif of a gremlin, and design-wise the line bears no resemblance to the very humanoid gremlins, even the movie-ones, being more animal-shaped. And, they're most likely not meant to be reptiles; judging by their boomerang-shaped head, body shape, and Dreepy's reference to once living in prehistoric seas, it appears that the line is inspired by the extinct amphibian Diplocaulus.

 

[Nitro Indigo]

I've brought up my proposed changes to the generation articles to cover more than just main series games several times, but I've never gotten any responses. Do I need to come up with a more convincing argument?

 

[Aged of all strings]

PokéToons
We need a page on this short, hell Mimikyu and Scraggy's galleries have screenshots and and concept art from their appearances in the short.

 

[Ricbolog1310]

We need a page on this short, hell Mimikyu and Scraggy's galleries have screenshots and and concept art from their appearances in the short.

I agree with you, but not before you've catched Jawblade

 

[Aged of all strings]

Ricbolog I'm not here to roleplay as Furno ok

 

[Ricbolog1310]

Ricbolog I'm not here to roleplay as Furno ok

Ok. BTW, I remember seeing a Bulbapedia user page regarding that special, but I can't find the link nor do I know why it wasn't accepted as an actual page

 

[swiftgallade46]

We need a page on this short, hell Mimikyu and Scraggy's galleries have screenshots and and concept art from their appearances in the short.

Are you referring to a Bulbapedia page?

 

[Aged of all strings]

Are you referring to a Bulbapedia page?

Yes

 

[Ricbolog1310]

I think that we could add youtube links for most of the italian original openings in their respective pages, since there are official music videos provided to youtube for all of them except for Diamond and Pearl. These are the links:
Season 1 - Pokémon
Season 2 - Behind the Skies of the Adventure
Season 3 - Always Pokémon
Season 4 - Johto League Champions
Season 5 - Master Quest
Season 6 and 7 - Advanced
Season 8 and 9 - Advanced Battle
Pokémon Chronicles

 

[Nitro Indigo]

Howcome when translating episode titles and the like, the site's policy is to keep the franchise-specific terminology as-is and put the equivalent English terms as a tooltip? Translating hadou as "wave-guiding" sounds clunky, for example.

 

[REDTiGER]

Greetings!
I'm asking for clarifications on following issue:
In Fire Red [Emulator (U)(Independent)] my lvl 27 Poliwrath (nature: jolly, item: quick claw) by using Hypnosis puts the several Ponytas [different trainer battles at Cinnabar Gym] to sleep. While it said the sleep is to lasts 2-5 turns in Gen III, and Ponytas not having early bird as their possible special abillities – issued Ponytas was able to awaken even on same turn. Hadn't yet checked any other Ponytas or properly researched others pokemons.
Why such thing may happens?

 

[prog rocker]

Greetings!
I'm asking for clarifications on following issue:
In Fire Red [Emulator (U)(Independent)] my lvl 27 Poliwrath (nature: jolly, item: quick claw) by using Hypnosis puts the several Ponytas [different trainer battles at Cinnabar Gym] to sleep. While it said the sleep is to lasts 2-5 turns in Gen III, and Ponytas not having early bird as their possible special abillities – issued Ponytas was able to awaken even on same turn. Hadn't yet checked any other Ponytas or properly researched others pokemons.
Why such thing may happens?

Bad luck, sincerely.

 

[SpinyShell]

I am unable to access the history and talk pages for many different pages because the tabs for them aren't appearing (see image below). I've even tried clicking in the spaces where they're supposed to be, but nothing happens.

Spoiler

 

[Tyler53841]

There might be something wrong with the whole page coding system, so some maintenance is needed to fix it as the only way to keep up on edits for the time being is Recent Changes.

 

[SpinyShell]

There might be something wrong with the whole page coding system, so some maintenance is needed to fix it as the only way to keep up on edits for the time being is Recent Changes.

I've seen some suggestions to switch to vector view for the time being because that displays as normal.

 

[Aged of all strings]

On "Fantasy in my pocket" should we mention on the page it was used in the teaser trailer for the 1st movie, I can't edit because I CAN'T LOG IN.

 

[Gabo2oo]

Something that's been bothering me for years is the usage of the CELAC flag to represent Latin America in language infoboxes and the like. As much as it is an IGO that attempts to streamline relationships between most Latin American governments, it barely represents either the Latin American territory or the people per se, let alone the commercial distribution of Pokémon merchandise.

It's only used in Bulbapedia because it's the closest to a flag you can attribute to us (it's not even an official flag, it's the logo placed over a rectangular background with an arbitrarily chosen color). But the truth is that CELAC is not our "European Union", barely anyone working outside of politics even knows that such an organization exists.

There's also the fact that Brazil suspended their participation and thus can't be placed within the flag, meaning it can't even represent Latin America in a political context either. The CELAC websites haven't been updated with this information even though the suspension happened 17 months ago, which further proves not even them are a trustworthy source of information on the matter. It appears their online presence has been entirely abandoned since 2011.

I strongly suggest the CELAC flag to be disregarded in Bulbapedia. Even though I wish we had a flag or a symbol to represent us, I'm afraid the only alternative is a map with the Latin American territory highlighted, similar to what Wikipedia does.

 

[ethan_asian]

One suggestion I have might be a tricky one to implement, but extremely unnecessary, but I think it would be cool if you could press a button that toggles the sprite between the 2d and 3d sprite for pokemon on the list of pokemon by national pokedex. I don't know if this has been suggested or not, but I think it would be very cool to see that.


Here is an example of what it would look like with Bulbasaur. Perhaps it could even be implemented for each generation? That would be pretty sick, but would probably be very hard.

 

[KirbyBulba737]

Tweets have problems loading on threads (the ones in the sidebar from official bulbagarden accounts load just fine) for me.
I am using Chrome with the ORAS style, and I have made sure that any extension that might be problematic has whitelisted the site.

EDIT: after surfing Bulbapedia a bit, I have noticed that outside of its page, Pokèmon UNITE isn't mentioned anywhere else. That includes the pages of playable Pokèmon. Though it's likely due to the game's recent release.

 

[ii kanji]

Has there been an intentional slash to the Bulbapedia shipping pages?

@TRNatalie and I spent ages carefully moderating the contents of the Rocketshipping one to produce a concise but comprehensive list of 'hints' by episode to make it easy for fans to cherry pick episodes to watch. This entire work has been wiped (hilariously, I note, on my wedding day when I was too distracted to pay heed LOL) and I notice for example the Pokeshipping article has had the same treatment, whilst many others have been culled altogether?! The only exception appears to be the Amourshipping page which remains as bloated and unusable as ever...

Last I spoke to Luna (.aka. ArcToraphim .aka. the named Bulbapedia Head of Shipping) in 2020, these pages were held under significantly looser rules compared to the rest of the 'pedia due to the inherently subjective nature of shipping. So... has this viewpoint now officially shifted, or are these massive changes the actions of one rogue editor?

Mine and Nat's version of the Rocketshipping entry got great feedback from other fans about how useful it was. I would be gunning to have it restored.