TorchicBlaziken
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The basketball that says Harmonia on it is not just in the text dump- it's in the game. Next to the hoop there's a basketball. It says Harmonia on it...
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I don't speak for the staff, but the reason for the removal of trivia is that it is irrelevant and actually take away from the page in all entirety.So, I've been noticing a steadily growing anti-trivia movement on Bulbapedia - I keep seeing editors, especially admins, purging trivia left and right. What the hell?
I know Wikipedia has a no trivia policy, but get this: Trivia is one of the things I like most about Bulbapedia, and is one of the main reasons I prefer it to other Pokémon sites like Serebii.
Hell, I don't know if I even have any edits left besides grammar/spelling that haven't been deemed "unworthy" - add to that that I'll never be informed that my edit has been tossed aside, rarely even receiving an edit summary on the matter, and it leaves me questioning why I even bother trying to contribute to Bulbapedia.
If you really feel as though you have a genuine piece of trivia and not some "Abra starts with A and ends with A" then I'm sure we can be reasonable people to come to a consensus.
When someone removes a piece of trivia, they are supposed to explain why it was removed in the edit summary. May it be something that was removed because it is no longer true, too restrictive, too obvious... what have you. I know I personally have been removing trivia from card pages due to speculation. Due to the nature of trivia, it's hard to come to an agree that allows everyone to be happy at once.
May I ask for specific examples of what you have been seeing being removed? It'll help establish the currently unwritten rules for trivia, and hopefully resolve some issues.
It is unrealistic to expect users to search in the history to find who added it, go to their talkpage, and post a message saying, "Excuse me, this shouldn't have been added for (a) and (b)." That is extremely time consuming, and in my opinion, unnecessary. There has to be some give and take, which comes in with the contributor adding it. They should be willing to look at edit summaries, and if they still disagree with the reason, they can bring it up on a talk page. As they are the people with the problem that the trivia is not there, they need to be the people to step forward.
I don't agree with how pikiwyn handled the matter. He should have provided reasons in the edit summaries on why each one was removed. Speaking of Manectric, seconds and thirds start to enter the non-notable region. I can't find a legitimate reason on why Ampharos was removed, so that should probably be a talk page thing.
Too much trivia is never good, and usually considered unencyclopedic. Finding a way to weave it into the actual body text on articles is a much more accepted process. Also, Bulbapedia is no longer under such strain, so let the examples fly
Also, it seems BW give Pokemon a third item drop, possibly rarer than the other two. Page 142 of the guide mentions "Very rarely, a wild Crustle in the dark grass will be holding a Rare Bone." and Rare Bone is what Serebii has down as a ''third'' item drop (he labels it as Dream World-exclusive). So I guess someone should maybe investigate the rarity of the drop, and if it's exclusive to double grass? Possibly, the Pokedex released early in the US Limited Edition of the guide may give a percentage, or at least confirm whether it's a normal drop just very rare. Unfortunately there was no EU Limited Edition so I can't even get the LE to check.
I guess I'm not explaining myself well.The guide only mentions Hard Stone and Rare Bone for Dwebble and Crustle, no third item at all.