Super Smash Bros Ultimate

[prog rocker]

ARMS did introduce new characters via free updates, so not all fighting games require you to pay for additions.

Not all, but most. Specially from big companies.

 

[Ryoma Maser]

Now the question is, will we ever get new costumes for characters other than Miis? It would be a great way for Nintendo to keep Smash Ultimate alive once the DLC passes are done.

I still want this, why haven't they made new costumes for fighters yet? Like Shulk with his Future Connected design or the Masked Lucina they should've done since the beginning. I also really want an Echoes Fighters pass, honestly surprised they haven't included at least one echo fighter at all in the DLC, but I think a small cheap Echo Fighter Pass could be possible. Like what was the point of introducing a new type of fighter when we only got so little of them?

 

[Poke Dragon]

I still want this, why haven't they made new costumes for fighters yet? Like Shulk with his Future Connected design or the Masked Lucina they should've done since the beginning. I also really want an Echoes Fighters pass, honestly surprised they haven't included at least one echo fighter at all in the DLC, but I think a small cheap Echo Fighter Pass could be possible. Like what was the point of introducing a new type of fighter when we only got so little of them?

Heck, all I wanted was a male Agent 3 costume for Inkling for symmetry purposes, even if said costume wouldn't have the Hero Shot or the differently-looking Ink Tank, the ink color could've been the aqua green seen in Octo Expansion. Also, the fact that Fire Mario was not added back as a costume for Mario is ridiculous as that look for Mario is very iconic. Link could've used some costumes seen in Breath of the Wild rather than just color changes that we go in Ultimate, Zonai Link would've been a really cool costume addition.

 

[prog rocker]

Like what was the point of introducing a new type of fighter when we only got so little of them?

Well they were subtly classified differently in Melee (flatter character select portraits) and in Smash 4 (they have their own section), it's just that it wasn't explicit until now.

 

[Tactician Karina]

So, the idea that only protagonists or mascots being DLC is Smashed away into nothingness again. So yet another fanmade rule that was thankfully broken.

What is it with this fandom that likes to make up their own rules for who can make it in or not? No seriously I need help understanding this. I sometimes go into other Smash threads where people want a certain character but someone always has to butt in and say so and so can't be in because [insert obscure and arbitrary reason that I came up with], like damn I didn't know you work with Sakurai/Nintendo and know why certain characters can't be in.

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Anyways for me the reason I always request/want protagonists in is because most of my favorites are usually good guys. Though I was never opposed to villains being DLC. Personally the villains I'd really want to see get in would be Julius (FE GotHW), Black Knight/Zelgius (FE PoR/RD), Berkut (FE SoV), Cid Aulstyne (FF Type-0), Ultimecia (FFVIII), and Dracula (Castlevania series).

 

[prog rocker]

Or why would we want Risky Boots or any of the barons to represent Shantae when we could have Shantae? Though after the protagonist, there's not much reason why we can't have any of the other characters.

Well, that depends on the franchise. Radec was chosen to represent Killzone in PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale since he was more memorable than... whoever the hero is there.

 

[Ryoma Maser]

What is it with this fandom that likes to make up their own rules for who can make it in or not? No seriously I need help understanding this. I sometimes go into other Smash threads where people want a certain character but someone always has to butt in and say so and so can't be in because [insert obscure and arbitrary reason that I came up with], like damn I didn't know you work with Sakurai/Nintendo and know why certain characters can't be in.

If it makes you feel any better, there's only two rules I setup that I follow for Smash choices. One is the obvious the choice must be a video game character rule set by Sakurai, but my other is that a character is from a company that is likely to comply and allow a character to join. Square was the most stingy for this rule(and by extension Disney for Sora, which is still on the table for unlikely, which thank god since I don't want Sora) but then Sephiroth came out of fricking nowhere.

There was also a third rule of how soon a character from a company would have another rep, then Steve and Sephiroth came literally cutting that rule in half.

 

[Tactician Karina]

Well we're getting 9 more FFVII tracks:
Aerith's theme (new arrangement)
Opening - Bombing Mission (new arrangement)
Those Who Fight (AC version)
Those Who Fight Further (AC version)
JENOVA
Cosmo Canyon (new arrangement)
One Winged Angel
Advent: One Winged Angel
Final Fantasy VII main theme (new arrangement)

Not surprised that we're getting the movie versions of some themes, would've liked to have Tifa's theme in as well even if it was a new arrangement (I've always liked her more over Aerith tbh). Sakurai also does mention they went through some challenges in getting tracks (he goes into it in the video, if you're curious).

Also Sephiroth Challenge is available in that you can unlock him early before his official release. It has three modes: Easy, Normal, and Very Hard, the first two modes are apparently considered to be challenging despite their names and the third is supposed to be extremely difficult. Originally it was made so that if you lose the challenge you have to wait to get him on his release, but they scrapped that idea. The challenge is from the 17th (today) until the 22nd, though it won't be available for those who haven't purchased the Sephiroth DLC or Fighter's Pass vol. 2.

And finally Cloud's AC alt will get Omnislash version 5 as part of an update when Sephiroth drops.

Sakurai's video on Sephiroth:

 

[prog rocker]

Well we're getting 9 more FFVII tracks:
Aerith's theme (new arrangement)
Opening - Bombing Mission (new arrangement)
Those Who Fight (AC version)
Those Who Fight Further (AC version)
JENOVA
Cosmo Canyon (new arrangement)
One Winged Angel
Advent: One Winged Angel
Final Fantasy VII main theme (new arrangement)

Remember how I said I hated Sephiroth? I take that back. Cosmo Canyon made things alright.

 

[Chidamari Sketch]

I'll admit; the Sephiroth Challenge is a pretty neat idea.

I wonder if the other fighters will get a similar boss event.

 

[Aulos]

Sephiroth seems like one I might want someday. Most of the DLC has been forgettable. Like literally, when Sephiroth was revealed I was trying to recall who the last character was. I had completely forgotten about the Minecraft character (and honestly, wish it could have stayed that way lol)

 

[ReturnofMCH]

Tbh given how huge minecraft is, I wouldn’t call it forgettable in the slightest, but you do you.

 

[Hector]

So I've been mucking around with Sephiroth since he dropped early (the challenge wasn't all that hard even on very hard once you got a handle on his AI. Beat it with Terry on my second go with GO SAUCE since the AI couldn't handle the kill confirms into Terry's supers), and I like how he handles. Plus, he's the first DLC in this pack that I actually at all wanted (the fact we got Min Min over Twintelle is SOME BULLSHIT and Steve is... bleh. I mean I get it Minecraft is big and all (hell I LIKE Minecraft), but just a weird inclusion), so that's nice.

I don't think he's going to be my main (Terry and Ike are gonna stay as my primaries as I'm still trying to master Terry and Ike is old reliable who can clutch me out a win when needed in a set), but definitely a secondary that I'm going to enjoy playing. He's agile in movement and he's got a couple of disgustingly good kill confirms (a true kill off shield break at zero with giga flare -> f-smash which is true). However his moves have huge ending lag and his recovery is exploitable (struggles to snap to ledge much like Terry's, the displayed arrow makes it so your opponent can easily position and gimp). I see him being high mid-tier once people master the matchups on both sides.

 

[prog rocker]

(the fact we got Min Min over Twintelle is SOME BULLSHIT

If I recall correctly, Sakurai said it was the creator's favorite character, so...

 

[Tactician Karina]

So who's excited for Pyra/Mythra coming next month? I thought it was pretty neat seeing actual Xenoblade Chronicles 2 characters make it in as fighters, they also look really fun to play.

 

[ReturnofMCH]

Me. Xenoblade 2 is a fantastic game

 

[RetroPokeFan]

So happy to see Pyra/Mythra. Xenoblade 2 is easily one of my favourite games on the Switch. Hearing Skye Bennett again put a smile on my face.

 

[Ryoma Maser]

I am the happiest man right now. I've been wanting a character from XenoBlade 2 (or X) since Day F---king One and my patience was finally awarded. I AM SO HAPPY!!!

 

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

I honestly thought Xenoblade wouldn't get another rep, but Pyra/Mythra is a nice addition. Now if the last two could just not be a sword fighter. Still hoping for Cinderace or Crash Bandicoot.

 

[BlueWaves]

Tbh given how huge minecraft is, I wouldn’t call it forgettable in the slightest, but you do you.

Minecraft is the biggest selling video game of all time, so definitely not forgettable. If anything, I honestly feel like Minecraft was more likely than Banjo-Kazooie thanks to being popular and being available on Switch and 3DS.

So who's excited for Pyra/Mythra coming next month? I thought it was pretty neat seeing actual Xenoblade Chronicles 2 characters make it in as fighters, they also look really fun to play.

Me. Xenoblade 2 is a fantastic game

Ditto. Xenoblade 2 and ARMS were games that did not get a character thanks to bring released due to bad timing, so its wonderful they get their rep. With Pyra and Byleth, I got my most wanted into Smash, so I'm good. That being said, despite playing Xenoblade 2, I have yet to start it simply because my game log is full and I'm busy, but this gives me as reason to start. Xenoblade DE was my game of the year last year, so I'm definitely excited now.