Gen V was the peak.
- Sep 11, 2018
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Alright lads, say it with me.
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I feel like I’m in the minority that really doesn’t see SwSh as incomplete lol. Aside from a skimpy post-game which we’ve had for the past 3 generations, it had everything any other Pokémon game had except the full Dex availability.
I'm still trying to process the "incomplete" claims and how I feel about them. If we're talking about post-game, we're really not dealing with a situation that's much different from X & Y, which makes me wonder what the reaction was to those games at the time. Were people saying back then that "Pokemon's holding out for Z version"?I sort of agree with this, but coming at it from the opposite angle - if none of the third versions or sequels ever existed, I don't think there'd be as much of a sense that the base games were "incomplete," because our ideal of what a Pokémon game is expected to consist of would be far more standardized. Obviously this is just my take, but I don't get the sense that they've ever really held back content with the intention of making people pay for it in a second game; I feel like it's more that they have a lot of ideas that they'd like to implement, but only have so much time in which to do so, and focus primarily on getting what they consider to be the core experience into a stable package. And then third versions, where they can put a secondary team onto a side-project in which the heavy lifting has already been done, allows them to salvage some of those ideas that didn't make it in (for instance, Masuda has said that they thought about implementing something like Cosplay Pikachu into X & Y, but weren't able to do so at that time - but then the Hoenn remakes gave them space to work it in).
Even Sun & Moon, which are the only base games that I personally think feel "incomplete," strike me more as a case of "When Deadlines Attack!" as opposed to "lol let's sell 'em half a game now and half later"
(Though to be clear, I'm essentially saying here that third versions never needed to exist, and yet they did, because obviously we're dealing with a company and all companies operate on greed. So while I don't think they deliberately set out to make the base games feel "incomplete," I also don't think they ever had any ethical issue whatsoever with then taking that skeleton and adding more to it to entice people into another buy, and I think they've only changed track now because other game studios' move to DLC has made the practice of rereleasing more frowned upon by consumers.)
I'm inclined to believe you, but then I think of the travesty that was Super Mario's 25th (a straight rerelease of Super Mario All-Stars on a Wii disc) and I have to wonderNo doubt something big is coming for 2021, since that'll be Pokemon's 25th Anniversary. Whether it's expansions for SwSh, the Gen 4 Remakes or even Gen 9.
Honestly, if "something new" means forms or weird additions like those Regis, then I can do without them. No region really needs it, and regional variants for legendaries would be a headache lore-wise more often than not. I'd much rather that they just rethink abilities, stats and movepools for Pokemon that need the help, and if they can come up with good evolutions, why make them exclusive to new forms?>watches trailer
Man... I feel really bad for Gen 2. Gen 1 favoritism is just plain given, and at least Gen 3 has the Regis getting something new. I believe Gen 5 survived a lot in this gen. Assuming Gen 4 gets remakes sometime within the next few years, Gen 2 pokemon are just basically shoved in a corner.
That doesn't necessarily mean that they offer all that much. It depends on how much you like the Wild Area.two new sub regions in open world
Well, the birds at least didn't have any lore as far as I know, so they can be justified.Honestly, if "something new" means forms or weird additions like those Regis, then I can do without them. No region really needs it, and regional variants for legendaries are a headache lore-wise more often than not.
-has war flashbacks to this board in 2015-Were people saying back then that "Pokemon's holding out for Z version"?
I'm not sure that poor tree even deserves to be the symbol that it has become. Considering how GF said they were off-and-on working on even the look of the grass for about 6 months, and all the little visual details throughout the game that clearly had thought put into them, I would be surprised if there wasn't some discussion about how the the trees should look, and the end result just wasn't to most peoples' tastes (I don't really care for the look of it myself). But it's entirely possible that it looked good in the eyes of the people making it.have to do with graphics (N64 tree)