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The Bulbagarden Conversational Chat Thread Vol 4

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There's no way they're going back to pre-gen III amounts of legends. I'd say 9 is the (unlikely) bare minimum of new legendaries we'll be getting.
 

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The weird thing is that Ho-Oh hasn't ever had a major role in anything in the anime. Everything else up to this point has.

Edit: Somehow didn't notice we had another page already, so this is late, haha..
 

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I think i've seen Ho-Oh like twice in the anime
 

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Yeah, that's been the only thing it's ever done, which I like. Keeps a low profile, appears maybe once every few years.
 

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I kinda like that Ho-oh in the anime is kinda mysterious, they never really interact with it, but it's there.
 

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Just like decent plot. You never really know it's there until you summarize a whole season in a paragraph or so.
 

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With a Skitty right next to it.

*Purugly

Just ocd running wild.


I would rather they introduce less so they could develop more story for each one.

Look, I like Mewtwo's backstory and all, but this is completely wrong on many terms. I don't see how some of the legendaries haven't been given far more plot and backstory in the later games compared to the early games, when there weren't so many of them.

The creation trio and tao trio are good examples of this if you ask me.

Of course, whether or not you (or anyone else, for that matter) liked the plot handling, is a completely different case altogether, and I think they could have easily put in more effort in creating a backstory, but I still don't buy that.


There's a fair few bunch of event mons that could have gotten a better treatment though.
I don't get what you mean by Purugly. I know that isn't Skitty. I was referring to HSOWA.

Also, I'm not saying Gen I had super developed Legendaries and Gen IV and Gen V didn't. I don't believe that. I just don't see the point in introducing 10+ legends unless you can thoroughly develop each one (and I don't think box legendaries have ever suffered from this). Maybe I'd like to see fewer event only Pokemon and more in-game searching (like have us find Meloetta's red shoes instead of having us download the Pokemon at an event). I don't know; I do think I can't return to the childlike enthusiasm I did have (not being a child any longer and all), so I don't expect that.
 

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I mean if there are 10+ legendaries, if they are cool and interesting, I wont really complain, but I don't expect them all to be like that.
 

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I don't get what you mean by Purugly. I know that isn't Skitty. I was referring to HSOWA.

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Anyways, I thought for a moment you mixed Skitty and Purugly. I see what you mean now.

Also, I'm not saying Gen I had super developed Legendaries and Gen IV and Gen V didn't. I don't believe that. I just don't see the point in introducing 10+ legends unless you can thoroughly develop each one (and I don't think box legendaries have ever suffered from this). Maybe I'd like to see fewer event only Pokemon and more in-game searching (like have us find Meloetta's red shoes instead of having us download the Pokemon at an event). I don't know; I do think I can't return to the childlike enthusiasm I did have (not being a child any longer and all), so I don't expect that.

Well, I blame events and movies needing their exclusives. If there is anything to cut down on, it would be that, because let's face it, that's where the plot problems lie.

Though with proper DLC this could be adressed on the 3DS. Hopefully it'll stay free like up until now, paid DLC have a tendency to turn into cancer.

I liked Mewtwo's plot handling, but any chance of retconning (I could have seen them do ... better) was thrown out the window with FrLg. Probably for the best.
 

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That's like a ton. I dont get why there has to be so many.

3 box legends, 3 members of a trio, 2 event legendaries and 1 roamer. That's the bare minimum. And very unlikely to happen, as there will be more than that.

I mean if there are 10+ legendaries, if they are cool and interesting, I wont really complain, but I don't expect them all to be like that.

I thought gen V's legendaries were pretty cool. The genies were kinda bland at first but their therian formes make them a bit more interesting.

They've also been less conservative in the number they introduce in each generation.
Gen I: 5
Gen II: 6
Gen III: 10
Gen IV: 13
Gen V: 13

Also if we add formes to this, it will change into:

I: 5
II: 6
III: 13
IV: 15 (not counting Arceus formes)
V: 20 (not counting genesect formes)

I would dislike if you had to pay just for event Pokemon.

They said they weren't gonna do this.
 

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I think if they're doing paid DLC, give us some cool event areas where you can catch rare Pokemon and such, more to explore, adding more content to the games that way would be very interesting and keep people playing after finishing the game.

Im ok with formes for the most part, I feel though that things like Keldeo's Resolute forme were kinda bland. I do like what they did with Kyurem with the fusions, Id like to see more things like that. I agree that the Genies Therian formes improve them in my eyes.

I still hate Roamers >.< There werent any in BW2, I like that change.
 

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Well deoxys-d, a and s, giratina-o, shaymin-s, the therians and the kyurem formes are clearly different pokémon than their originals (you can argue for Meloetta either way). It's almost the same as them introducing new legendaries, only they share a name and pokedex entry with their original formes.
 

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I like pretty much all those really(except Shaymin's form, just personal opinion), I do think they should be different then the original forme and I think in general the forms are interesting.
 

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I don't get what you mean by Purugly. I know that isn't Skitty. I was referring to HSOWA.

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Anyways, I thought for a moment you mixed Skitty and Purugly. I see what you mean now.
Haha, that happens to me a lot. Actually, I had to think on what you meant by
"Joke


My Head" xD

Also, I'm not saying Gen I had super developed Legendaries and Gen IV and Gen V didn't. I don't believe that. I just don't see the point in introducing 10+ legends unless you can thoroughly develop each one (and I don't think box legendaries have ever suffered from this). Maybe I'd like to see fewer event only Pokemon and more in-game searching (like have us find Meloetta's red shoes instead of having us download the Pokemon at an event). I don't know; I do think I can't return to the childlike enthusiasm I did have (not being a child any longer and all), so I don't expect that.

Well, I blame events and movies needing their exclusives. If there is anything to cut down on, it would be that, because let's face it, that's where the plot problems lie.

Though with proper DLC this could be adressed on the 3DS. Hopefully it'll stay free like up until now, paid DLC have a tendency to turn into cancer.

I liked Mewtwo's plot handling, but any chance of retconning (I could have seen them do ... better) was thrown out the window with FrLg. Probably for the best.

Yeah, maybe I'd care more about the event legendaries associated with the movies if I actually watched the movies lol

Paid DLC is annoying. I hadn't experienced it until New Super Mario Bros. 2 (all I've ever played has been Nintendo stuff and they were the last to jump on the paid DLC wagon), but I calculated that to get all the Coin Rush course packs, I'd end up paying $22.50 (no idea what that is in your currency, but the game itself was $39.99). And apparently Nintendo has made a shit ton off of Fire Emblem Awakening DLC in Japan.

I guess they could do a remake of FRLG if they really wanted to expose themselves to so much rage.
 

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Id like if we didnt see any more of Kanto until the 20th anniversery of Pokemon.
 

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Paid DLC is annoying. I hadn't experienced it until New Super Mario Bros. 2 (all I've ever played has been Nintendo stuff and they were the last to jump on the paid DLC wagon), but I calculated that to get all the Coin Rush course packs, I'd end up paying $22.50 (no idea what that is in your currency, but the game itself was $39.99). And apparently Nintendo has made a shit ton off of Fire Emblem Awakening DLC in Japan.

Heh, I actually ended up buying all the dlc packs for that x)

Also all current fire emblem awakening dlc together is 7350 yen if I counted right, which is almost €58, more than they're gonna charge for the actual game. Though if they'll round down the prices (200 yen being €1,50 rather than €2,-) it might end up being a bit lower with €48, but still more than the game itself is probably going to cost.
 

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Paid DLC is annoying. I hadn't experienced it until New Super Mario Bros. 2 (all I've ever played has been Nintendo stuff and they were the last to jump on the paid DLC wagon), but I calculated that to get all the Coin Rush course packs, I'd end up paying $22.50 (no idea what that is in your currency, but the game itself was $39.99). And apparently Nintendo has made a shit ton off of Fire Emblem Awakening DLC in Japan.

Heh, I actually ended up buying all the dlc packs for that x)
If I had purchased the game when it first released, I'd probably have purchased the DLC packs as they came out. I guess it's a good thing that I didn't finish the game until all the packs had been released and I figured out the final price tag. I need to be conservative with my money at the moment xD

Also all current fire emblem awakening dlc together is 7350 yen if I counted right, which is almost €58, more than they're gonna charge for the actual game. Though if they'll round down the prices (200 yen being €1,50 rather than €2,-) it might end up being a bit lower with €48, but still more than the game itself is probably going to cost.
Wow, that's crazy. I guess it's a good thing I've only played Sacred Stones, right now it's only Eirika (although wtf is up with her redesign) and Ephraim that I'd be tempted to buy (I think all the other characters from Sacred Stones that are available are free via Spotpass).
 
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