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The Bulbagarden Conversational Chat Thread Vol 4

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Italy-kun

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Like what? That's how I felt about watering berries in Gen 4 after awhile.

Ugh. :x One reason I don't care to have fish. An axolotl on the other hand...

Just odd things. I'm a bit OCD and It bugs me if a game has collectable items that I haven't found or certain bits I miss that most people wouldn't worry about. Watering berries was definitely a chore. Like picking acorns.

I'd love an axolotl. I planned to get one last year but my friend told me hers evolved into a lizard type thing. They might be too exotic for me.
When those guys metamorphosize it's SOOO COOL!!!
You know, I legitimately have no idea what geometry is. Is that shapes and the sort, or am I thinking of something else?
Perimeter, area, volume etc.
To me, we are taught all the math we need in primary/elementary school and the rest is just filler. Where the fuck does one use Algebra in life?

I really have to stop doing this... but my reflexes as a TA are hard to overrule.

Almost every technical field requires higher mathematics. Just to build a house, a competent architect needs to have a firm grasp of static physics, which in turn relies on both integral and differential calculus. The drafter needs to understand geometry, which relies on algebra, simply to draw up blueprints based on the architect's overall design. Then, the contractor, using these plans, must perform a cost/benefit analysis to determine the cost and time to produce the final product, so a profitable and realistic bid can be placed on the job. Even this requires algebra and statistics.



Some people may get away with a minimal knowledge of arithmetic, but these jobs are not in nearly as high demand or as high-paying. Of course, there are always exceptions, I'm just generalizing.
Guys, we may have a capital-G genius over here.
Blasphemy! European football is the most nationalistic thing in existence. Queen's King's day will pale in comparison to the day we win the world cup.
You're Dutch, yeah? If so I support this immensely. Big fan of the Netherlands as a country. Johan Croif (spelling?) is (was?) awesome.
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Once I have the game I'm gonna try to visit as many bmgf'ers' town as possible, and it will be awesome :3
Heck yes, man.

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I hate it if a game has permanently missable things and I miss one of them.
THIS.
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To me, we are taught all the math we need in primary/elementary school and the rest is just filler. Where the fuck does one use Algebra in life?

Your highschool must suck because the math I had in high school has proved useful to me on multiple occasions. Statistics and probability and such.
That sort of thing is definitely useful.

The way this year has gone in Geometry class can be described with just a bit of quote editing.
I see an algebra question, I think 'holy shit this actually makes sense to me'
Like seriously. When we have to factor polynomials and stuff, it makes more sense now that it's not just an abstraction.

Also @Jam Scone; you'll be fine. If all else fails, we'll help you study.
 

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Hiyaa been called to this thread because maths discussions

This is a concise and complete answer to the question of applied mathematics in everyday life. Mind if I borrow it?

My post? Course ya can, as long as it spreads the good word of maths around. :p I think your post was a lot more useful than mine when discussing professions that need maths, but in any case, people complaining how they'll never need to use a subject I'm spending 4 years doing a degree on which I may or may not have chosen because it's a very useful subject always gets me wanting to defend it :p
 

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Guys, we may have a capital-G genius over here.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic... but no, I'm not that clever, just tons and tons of school. Tons. tons.

My post? Course ya can, as long as it spreads the good word of maths around. :p I think your post was a lot more useful than mine when discussing professions that need maths, but in any case, people complaining how they'll never need to use a subject I'm spending 4 years doing a degree on which I may or may not have chosen because it's a very useful subject always gets me wanting to defend it :p

Well, thank you on both counts. My description is pretty typical of a depth-first description, definitely one of my failings.
I can understand wanting to defend your choice of subject matter for study, having been there before. Many times.

What sort of math degree are you working towards? The most I've done, academically, (aside from core - calc, geo, differentials etc) is a bit of computational and modular mathematics - mostly for the sake of cryptography.
 

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I said it before, you guys can create a maths thread if you think it'd be a good hang out for you lot. I think it'd be decently popular.

Bulba Pub has went well, after all.
 

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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic... but no, I'm not that clever, just tons and tons of school. Tons. tons.
No I'm serious.
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cryptography.

Depending on whether I have the right definition of cryptography, that could either be amazingly cool or something I've never heard of before.

Also @Fab; I dunno about a math thread, but I very much like the idea of a philosophy thread. Philosophy's cool.
 

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Well, thank you on both counts. My description is pretty typical of a depth-first description, definitely one of my failings.
I can understand wanting to defend your choice of subject matter for study, having been there before. Many times.

What sort of math degree are you working towards? The most I've done, academically, (aside from core - calc, geo, differentials etc) is a bit of computational and modular mathematics - mostly for the sake of cryptography.

Well the type of degree I'm studying for won't change depending on the modules I take.. I'll end up with a MMath (masters) or a BSc Mathematics depending on if I want to stay for 4 or 3 years respectively. I'm only just finishing my first year at uni, and I didn't get any choice for my modules this year, but I took five, Abstract Algebra, Analysis, Methods&Applications, Probability&Statistics and Programming&Discrete Mathematics. The last one has cryptography in too, which I thought I'd find interesting but I don't really understand it at all haha. Next year I did get a tinnyy amount of choice for my modules, I had to take (Abstract) Algebra, again, Analysis, again, Numerical Analysis, and I chose some Physics ones (Quantum Phyics and Electromagnetism) and a module in Differential Equations.

Wow that was a boring reply :p Did you take maths at degree?
 

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No I'm serious.

Depending on whether I have the right definition of cryptography, that could either be amazingly cool or something I've never heard of before.

Also @Fab; I dunno about a math thread, but I very much like the idea of a philosophy thread. Philosophy's cool.

Well, thank you for the kind compliment Aura-kun.
As for philosophy and math threads?
I'd hang out at either one. Or both. Probably both.
Forgot to mention: Cryptography is the practice of communicating secretly, using codes and ciphers. For instance: Blf qfhg olhg gsv tznv.

Well the type of degree I'm studying for won't change depending on the modules I take.. I'll end up with a MMath (masters) or a BSc Mathematics depending on if I want to stay for 4 or 3 years respectively. I'm only just finishing my first year at uni, and I didn't get any choice for my modules this year, but I took five, Abstract Algebra, Analysis, Methods&Applications, Probability&Statistics and Programming&Discrete Mathematics. The last one has cryptography in too, which I thought I'd find interesting but I don't really understand it at all haha. Next year I did get a tinnyy amount of choice for my modules, I had to take (Abstract) Algebra, again, Analysis, again, Numerical Analysis, and I chose some Physics ones (Quantum Phyics and Electromagnetism) and a module in Differential Equations.

Wow that was a boring reply :p Did you take maths at degree?

Not boring at all. Aside from course reqs for ... several undergrad physical science degrees, all the math I took was elective. My graduate majors were in plasma physics and condensed matter physics, minors in nuke and EP.

Quantum physics was a really good choice on your part as an elective, since the Standard Model just kind of got validated. Again. Most of the theorems and principles are counter-intuitive, but they're also self consistent and make positive predictions. As a math major you might like that. =P

Also, cryptography definitely isn't for everyone. If you are interested in some ... less difficult concepts in the field, try looking up the Kryptos sculpture (huge copper encrypted statue at the CIA building. As far as I know, the last part still hasn't been solved yet.). The third section of it uses a modulus transport cipher, which will definitely tie in with your discrete mathematics course. The first and second sections both use a Vigenere cipher, which is essentially a two dimensional Caesar shift on steroids, with a rotating key. I digress.
 
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Hmm plasma physics and condense matter physics? Those sound really cool. xD

Do you plan on getting your doctorate?
 

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It sounds way cooler than it is... CMP is probably the most boring sub-branch of physical science.
Yes, I'm pursuing a doctorate. I'd like to do experimental work with fusion, but I'll likely end up teaching, doing statistical analyses, or accounting.
 

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I'm sure if you have stellar grades than any lab would accept you as an assistant. Getting a doctorate for accounting? That sounds a little too qualified for an accounting job.

You can always call it Military Science. xD
 

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When I think "football," I think "people getting super excited over something that isn't that big a deal." This applies to both the European and American versions.

Blasphemy! European football is the most nationalistic thing in existence. Queen's King's day will pale in comparison to the day we win the world cup.

That's exactly my point.
 

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Cryptography. That is something I can get into. That is a useful skill to have after a nuclear war or after a brutal dictatorship. I would much prefer literature based codes like the ones used in A series of Unfortunate Events compared to the Abyssal Ruins type.
 

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I'm sure if you have stellar grades than any lab would accept you as an assistant. Getting a doctorate for accounting? That sounds a little too qualified for an accounting job.

You can always call it Military Science. xD

It's really not that uncommon, there are only so many grants, teaching and team positions out there for highly specialized researchers.
 
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