@Pikochu in the case of two town and two mafia and one indep left is it considered town loss or just lylo?
That would depend on the win con of the ITP. If the wincon of the ITP doesn't affect town or is anti-mafia, it's a LYLO.
This is actually
really important.
LyLo should be 2/2/1, but we're at LyLo with
six players.
3/2/1 would be MyLo under normal circumstances, but it isn't, we're in LyLo. I have a theory as why it is a thing. So, if today is LyLo it means it will be impossible for Town to win if we decide for a No Lynch, causing a 2/2/1. Why?
Only two things could cause that: exclusively pro-Mafia indepts, or vote modifiers.
I can assure you I'm not a pro-Mafia indept because I'm wiling to win with Town, and I can kinda prove that because I could've just killed someone last night to instawin with mafia, but I didn't. So, only one remains: vote modifiers.
So, my actual theory is that one scum might be able to double their vote whenever they want, or something among these lines that gives them extra vote power, but this actually causes a problem:
So, if scum is really able to modify their votes by one we're actually at 3/2(+1)/1, meaning a No Lynch would bring us to 2/2(+1)/1, which means they can tie the votes even if I vote with Town. BUT, if Pika were teling the truth, we should've been able to win, which isn't the case. The fact a No Lynch in this phase is always taken as a loss suggests that he lied about his role, and that an tie would still be a loss for Town.
tl; dr
for some reason Town still loses if they manage to tie, so Pika is prolly lying and might be scum.