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The Fairy Type and Alterations to Type Chart

Is the Fairy-type OP?


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Bikini Miltank

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You know, if that is the full list of type interactions, and the rumor about Mawile gaining a Fairy type is also true, then I'll be very happy: Mawile was given low stats but a ton of resistances to make up for it, and I was concerned that any type change would give it additional weaknesses. If this list is true, all it needs to worry about is taking regular rather than half damage from other Steel types. The Poison weakness doesn't matter as it's immune to Poison, plus it gains immunity to Dragons.

While the Smash skit implied Fairies to be strong against Ice, I'd rather this wasn't the case: it doesn't make much sense thematically and Ice doesn't need any more knocks. Though the weakness to Poison is probably the interaction I'm happiest about. Poison needed another way to be useful, and being one of the few counters to the Dragon Killer-type looks like just the ticket.
 

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Something I'm sure has been mentioned when the Fairy type chart rumors first came out, but if it is indeed strong against Dark that would mean Dark/Ghosts no longer have no weaknesses. Sorry Wonder Guard Spiritomb. I could see this helping Sableye's chances of getting an evolution, as it could now evolve and have pretty decent stats because it isn't a weakness free combination.
 

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Thematically, I think fairy is a good candidate for being more of a weak defensive type. But resistances to fighting and ground both make sense and would be good at toning down the offensive power of those types.
 

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Thematically, I think fairy is a good candidate for being more of a weak defensive type. But resistances to fighting and ground both make sense and would be good at toning down the offensive power of those types.

But it will tone up Fairy... A LOT.
 

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Anybody thinks Pikachu family should be Electric/Fairy? This could make sense in X and Y.

I think Pikachu should stay Electric type. Not because of it's iconic status, but more to do with the fact I can't imagine Pikachu using Fairy Type moves like Fairywind or Moonblast, it doesn't seem to fit properly in my mind. Pikachu doesn't seem like a Fairy type at all to me. Pikachu is one of my favourite Pokemon, and in saying that, i hope Pikachu will be left how it is.
 

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While it's not necessarily a given that Fairy will be a type primarily associated with feminine-looking Pokémon, it is certainly possible that this will be the case, given the examples we've seen so far.

And to this, I say: so what?

We already have an overtly "masculine" type: Fighting. It wasn't until Gen V that we got any remotely feminine-looking Fighting-types. For the majority of the franchise's history it's been dominated by male-only or 75% male species. If we can have a type that's primarily associated with masculinity, why is the opposite suddenly a huge problem?

Because guys expect all video games to be exceptionally masculine?
Speaking of that, could fighting and fairy have some sort of mutual relationship like bug and poison in Gen 1? Men and women...
 

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normally i'm on top of things pokemon wise but on this thread i keep hearing that dark types are weak against fairy types. i haven't seen this in any of my sources. are you guys sure it's true? if so can i have a souce please?
 

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normally i'm on top of things pokemon wise but on this thread i keep hearing that dark types are weak against fairy types. i haven't seen this in any of my sources. are you guys sure it's true? if so can i have a souce please?
It hasn't been officially stated yet. However, the source that "leaked" the Fairy type, as well as a bunch of information that's turned out to be true, stated that Fairy would be strong against Dark.
 

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normally i'm on top of things pokemon wise but on this thread i keep hearing that dark types are weak against fairy types. i haven't seen this in any of my sources. are you guys sure it's true? if so can i have a souce please?
It hasn't been officially stated yet. However, the source that "leaked" the Fairy type, as well as a bunch of information that's turned out to be true, stated that Fairy would be strong against Dark.
Didn't they also predict it being strong against Fighting and Ice? That part's starting to sound a little broken -- Dark and (especially) Ice do not need to be given another weak point. Dark alone would mean that the Hydreigon family takes 4x from Gardevoir's new Fairy STAB. (Hydreigon and Metagross are currently the only pseudolegends NOT to have a 4x weakness somewhere.)
 

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Pokemon needs more variety if they ever want to win back fans like me, who aren't into EV/IV training and nature crap.
 

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Hello there,

I've been reading up this thread for months on the speculation of new types existence. There have been really good points all the way.

On its strenghts and weaknesses, based on the leaks partially confirmed and the fact of Gardevoir crippling Hydreigon with Fairy Wind (and the Dragon is to have a good amount of HP) - I believe Fairy is SE against Dark as well.

So far, Umbreon has been the only Eeveelution not to take SE from any other, and Espeon the one not to deal any SE. So Fairy might be weak against Psychic which SE only two types by now. That way we would have:

Sylveon > Umbreon > Espeon > Sylveon
 

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What really irritates about the complaints are that they sound like they come from little boys/insecure men who feel "emasculated" that their all-powerful dragon-type is weak against "girly" fairy-types. My god, it reminds me of the complaints back in Black 2/White 2 when they found out Iris was the champion.

Seriously, the sexism levels in the Pokemon fandom suprise me.
 

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What really irritates about the complaints are that they sound like they come from little boys/insecure men who "emasculated" that their all-powerful dragon-type is weak against "girly" fairy-types. My god, it reminds me of the complaints back in Black 2/White 2 when they found out Iris was the champion.

Seriously, the sexism levels in the Pokemon fandom suprise me.

There are a lot of immature fanboys in all fandoms. Just ignore those type of people.
 

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So far, Umbreon has been the only Eeveelution not to take SE from any other, and Espeon the one not to deal any SE. So Fairy might be weak against Psychic which SE only two types by now. That way we would have:

Sylveon > Umbreon > Espeon > Sylveon

Jolteon also doesn't have a weakness against any of the others, so Umbreon is not alone. But I wouldn't mind Fairy to be strong against 3 types, namely Dragon, Dark & Fighting. This isn't too OP. I just hope it has some resistances.
 

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What, you don't IV train? :p
Clearly, people like me like to play Pokemon for purposes beyond battling Pokemon with other people.

There's no such thing as IV training. There's IV breeding, but not IV training. That was the joke.

On to the Fairy type, I just noticed something weird.

If Fairy is supposed to be SE against Dark, then that would mean Hydreigon is 4x weak to Fairy, but when Gardevoir attacked him in the video, he managed to survive. Wouldn't a Pokemon with a 4x weakness faint when hit by an attack of the type it's weak to?

I mean, sure, there could be several factors. Maybe Fairy Wind has ridiculously low BP, or maybe Gardevoir was severely underleveled, or maybe she just wasn't EV trained while Hydreigon was. With that said, its still a weird thing to note that Hydreigon was left with a lot of HP for someone that should have just gotten hit for 4x damage.

Just pointing that out.
 

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The one thing I'm mad about is that I'm planning on picking Chespin. But Fairy is said to be super effective against dark types, and assuming the rumors of Chespin's final evo being part dark then this means I'm going to have severeal weaknesses to look out for. Ugh.
 

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What, you don't IV train? :p
Clearly, people like me like to play Pokemon for purposes beyond battling Pokemon with other people.

There's no such thing as IV training. There's IV breeding, but not IV training. That was the joke.

On to the Fairy type, I just noticed something weird.

If Fairy is supposed to be SE against Dark, then that would mean Hydreigon is 4x weak to Fairy, but when Gardevoir attacked him in the video, he managed to survive. Wouldn't a Pokemon with a 4x weakness faint when hit by an attack of the type it's weak to?

I mean, sure, there could be several factors. Maybe Fairy Wind has ridiculously low BP, or maybe Gardevoir was severely underleveled, or maybe she just wasn't EV trained while Hydreigon was. With that said, its still a weird thing to note that Hydreigon was left with a lot of HP for someone that should have just gotten hit for 4x damage.

Just pointing that out.

hmm, good eye.
I just rewatched the trailer and the Hydreigon is lv 50 with 152 Hp, meaning it has its minimum HP with 0 IVs and 0 EVs. Gardevoir probably was lv 50 too, so Hydreigon surviving this perhaps means Fairy isn't SE on Dark.
 
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