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The general Pokemon League / end of Sinnoh / Generation V thread

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I wonder who the mysterious legendary pokemon trainer is. It was like an unwritten rule that no trainer (except gym leaders, brains, elite4/champion) were allowed to have a legendary pokemon.
 

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Remember that episode were Ash and Dawn had a dream about becoming champions together? Ash battled a Rayquaza, foreshadowing this eventual legendary match. Hmm...
 

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Does anyone think Cynthia might show up at the league? Since there won't be an E4 arc, do you think the writers might have her show up as like a guest or something?
 

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I'd enjoy it. She's the champion of the region, so it would make enough sense for her to show up at the league as like a special guest. Nothing more really. And another interaction with her couldn't hurt.
 

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If it has a split evo, he should stay through the end. If not, Ash will oak him or leave him with a Dragon type gym leader...

I'll be so mad if Ash gives it away. I got over Gliscor when I saw Gible but I could never forgive the writers if they gave Gible away
 

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Yeah, I don't see why she couldn't be there. But I dunno, it would just seem sort of odd if her last appearance in DP would be at the TG finale, at least to me. I'm hoping she makes another appearance before the DP saga is over but it might not happen I guess.
 

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Does anyone think Cynthia might show up at the league? Since there won't be an E4 arc, do you think the writers might have her show up as like a guest or something?

Well, it seems likely. If there isn't an E4 arc (Which I hope there isn't) we should see Cynthia again. She's been here and there in Sinnoh, she'll probably be at one of Sinnoh's biggest event.

If she is there, I see her congratulating the champion and possibly battling him/her.

Which DP pokemon will Ash and Dawn bring to Isshu besides Piplup?

Ash is taking Pikachu, no doubt, but I could see him taking Gible since he caught it so late in the series. Maybe it'll be like the whole Aipom thing all over again since Gible liked to follow Ash.

As for Dawn, if she stays (Which she very well might). She'll bring Piplup. But if that does happen, they'll need to tone it's personality down to leave room for the 5th generation mascot.
 

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Which DP pokemon will Ash and Dawn bring to Isshu besides Piplup?

Ash: Pikachu and Gible
Dawn (ignoring the fact that she'll probably leave): Piplup and Cynadaquil

As for the League, since the games are confirmed to be coming out in Sept, I'm guessing there might be some still frame victories. Unless all the battles up till the Top 16 are 3 v 3's.
 

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What do you think the preliminary matches are going to be like? I'm a little torn because I really liked the double matches in the Ever Grande Conference. But I also liked the 3-way round robin tournaments in the Silver Conference. Maybe the fact that there is going to be reserve pokemon coming like in the Silver conference it will be more like that.
 

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I wonder what they will name this conference? Maybe the Platinum Conference.
The preliminaries might be

Ash vs. Conway/Barry
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Conway vs. Barry

Paul vs. Conway

I think those are the possible preliminaries
 

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It would be cool to see the Elite 4, and Cynthia standig around watching Ash's matches similar to how Goku and co. were watching/commenting on the Goten/Trunks fight.
 

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I only expect this league to be a non-stop thrill ride since so many rivals are involved. Then again, we got gypped in the GF, so who knows. It's unavoidable we'll have at least some COTD battles, but they'll probably be over with quickly.
 

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What I'd like to happen is for Ash to defeat the legendary user in the semis and then defeat Paul in the finals to win the Sinnoh League. Unfortunatly it'll probably be switched around.

I'd also like Dawn to stay (like I wanted May to stay 4 years ago). I think she might but it's also equally likely she'll leave. If she stays I'll be happy, if not I'm not going to complain because it isn't expected.

I still like Brock but he's gotten stale, I'd prefer him to leave to do some breeder stuff or something else. Then we can bring in BW Guy and Girl and then have an equal gender ratio going on. So we could have:

Ash: Gyms
Dawn: Contests
BW Guy: Pokethlon
BW Girl: Some other goal introduced this gen
 

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It would be cool to see the Elite 4, and Cynthia standig around watching Ash's matches similar to how Goku and co. were watching/commenting on the Goten/Trunks fight.

That would be epic. To be honest, the previous Leagues I always wondered why the E4 and Champion of the respective regions were never present during those tournaments. But now since the complete Elite and Champion have made appearances thoughout the series and moreover, they were introduced AS the Eilite Four, unlike Agatha or Lorelei to name a few, who merely appeared as ordinary -strong but still ordinary- trainers. So I wish, hope and expect Sinnoh's Elite Four, or at least Cynthia, to be present during the League and comment on Ash's progess, given that the five of them already met him.
 

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That blog post was also 3 years ago. Back then people had hope that it meant she would be appearing soon. Then it didn't happen. She didn't have an appearance in DP. She may get an in between episode after the league, but that'd be it.

Judging by mr.Hidaka interview it was mentioned how she might appear somewhere on road like May did for some tournament or something.He also mentiond some connection with contests,but didnt wanted to specify what he meant with this.

I hardly doubt Misty wil only get one episode after so much time(which is almost 300 episodes long gap),she deserves alot more.

I never read or see Japanese fans still enamored with Misty all these years. I think they are more practical, even thought they are the original Otaku. So it goes back to my original theory, the Misty "legend" was dub-created, in the original Japanese versions she was just slightly below Brock in terms of importance.

Not at all,i made some research among Japanese fandom and there are also fans among them who believe Misty was the best being dissapointed that she left.

Speaking of impoirtance,due to receiving more screntime and things going for her being more focused on i say she was slightly above Brock in importance.

They are only talking about Dawn now, but most of them also believe she will leave.

And thats because they are realistic being aware how this is the most likely outcome.

To answer the topic,not that i believe this has big chance of happening:

Which DP pokemon will Ash and Dawn bring to Isshu besides Piplup?

Ash will probably bring Pikachu,like he did for last two generations while other pokemon will be left at home to make space for new ones for marketing purposes.

Dawn(assuming she stays which is a big if),will likely bring Piplup due to mascot status,leaving other slots open for new pokemon for same reasons Ash will(probably).
 

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For the next generation, I really hope Ash gets Mijumaru as he hasn't had a water starter for many years. Since we haven't had the female coordinator with the grass starter I think she should get Tsutarja and if there is a new member of the cast I hope he gets the Pokabu, if Brock just ends up being there...again...then Ash should have Pokabu. How do you think the starters should be distributed among the main cast?
 

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I hope we see the E4 at the tournament. Considering we probably won't have an E4 arc, we might as well see them one more time because of how they were showcased throughout the region. Besides... it's the league... I think they should be like, obligated to attend lol.

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This means Ho-Oh will be mentioned... nothing more
"Oh, this League uses Ho-Oh's flame? Cool! Reminds me of the Johto League..."
Then we quickly get done with the torch instead of doing a big deal of it like before and actually start the League in the same ep

And the fact the group arrive at Suzuran Island in the Buck ep and then the next ep with Ash's older Poké has "evening before the big battles" or whatever it was in the title... it's pretty obvious now that the League will start in the first ep of July and will make it the first time (at least since AG, not completely sure about original series) that a movie in Japan was released between eps that it wouldn't make sense to happen there

Also, I expect two breaks in July based on what usually happened in that month due to the new movie being released and the last movie being aired
So I expect 3 eps in July, 4 eps in August and then September will have 4 last eps of DP (assuming BW will start in the final week of September, if it'll be earlier in September than make September just 2-3 DP eps)

So it's most likely 11 eps after DP182 until DP's end
DP 181 - the twerps arrive at Suzuran Island
DP 182 - Ash meet his Oak'd Poké and prepare to the League
That would make it so DP 183 can immediately start with the League - all they need is torch and rivals meeting, which could even happen at the end of DP182

July:
DP 183 - first half of the ep: rivals meeting, torch stuff, preliminaries start and at least one battle of Ash is already shown
DP 184 - Ash finish the preliminaries and same for all his rivals (all win their preliminaries too, other than Allan and Leona if they're there)
DP 185 - Ash VS Conway: Ash win

August:
DP 186 - Paul VS Barry: Paul win
DP 187 - Ash VS Nando: Ash win, using team and battle style similar to Dawn's, also using Counter Shield since Zoey proved you have to be prepared for sleep attacks against Nando
DP 188-189: Ash VS Paul: Ash wins

September:
DP 190-191 - Ash VS legendary user: Ash lose, legendary user wins the League, Paul admit he was wrong, get his Soothe Bell back, possibly get Infernape back, all rivals get their conclusion and leave
DP 192-193: Dawn meet Zoey and Ursula and find out they're going to the same region Kenny went, Dawn decide to leave to go after her rivals and join Kenny on his journey, Brock reveals his new dream and leave, Ash go back to Pallet and then decide to leave to Isshu (probably because the legendary user talked about the region and used Poké from there)
BW 1 - focus mostly on BW girl, Ash only being at the very end of the ep, BW girl is a Coordinator and start with Mijumaru which is immediately treated as an out of ball mascot

I honestly believe this is how everything will happen... it makes sense by what we know so far
I'd love for Dawn to have a tag battle with Ash, a tag battle with Zoey, a battle against Fantina AND a lose to Ursula - but I can't see the time for anything more than one of these to happen, which will probably be Ash & Dawn tag battle (probably Pikachu & Piplup)

I lol'd when I read 'torch stuff'. Because I can imagine them doing some stupid shenanigans witht he torch... Again
 
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D/P 183 - Ash and all of his rivals meet up at Suzuran Island the Torch Running begins and the Preliminary battles begin at the end.

D/P 184 - Ash and all of his rivals win the preliminary battles a battle between Ash and Paul breaks out but is stopped by Mr.Goodshow and the Reggie.

D/P 185 - The Double battle round begins Ash vs Nando ash manages to win with a Dawn's strategies and defeats Nando. Barry, Paul and Conway are shown getting stillframe victories Ash wins another battle at the end of the episode.

D/P 186 - Ash vs COTD and just barely manages to win, Paul is shown getting a Stillframe victory and Barry and Conway both barely win there matches.

D/P 187 - Ash vs Conway begins and Conway is determined to win remembering that Ash is the enemy but Ash just barely wins. A battle between Paul and a COTD is shown and Paul defeats them with little trouble.

D/P 188 - Ash vs Barry begins

D/P 189 - The battle between Ash and Barry ends Ash winning and the battle between Ash and Paul begins.

D/P 190 - Ash barely defeats Paul but Gible is badly injured and not able to battle in the Final round against the Legendary trainer. The battle begins at the end.

D/P 191 - The legendary trainer just barely defeats Ash and wins the Sinnoh League he tells him about the Isshu region and so on. Later Team Rocket appears but is blasted off By Ash, Barry and Paul Paul admits that he was wrong and tells Ash he is going to the Battle Frontier next and Barry is as well. Ash decides to go to Isshu and the Group heads to pallet town.

D/P 192 - The Pallet town reunion Ash leaves his Sinnoh Team at Oak's Lab and bids a farewell to Dawn who is planning to go to the Hoenn Region where her rivals went off to. Brock tells Ash that he will meet up with Ash in Isshu to travel with him and the episode ends with Ash setting sail.

B/W001 - It would start off with the B/W girl and she would start off with Tsutarja she would get attacked by Team Rocket but saved by Ash at the end yeaa similar to Dawn and May's intro episodes.
 

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I'm destroying my computer if Brock comes back for the next saga. I need a new one anyways.
 

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B/W001 - It would start off with the B/W girl and she would start off with Tsutarja she would get attacked by Team Rocket but saved by Ash at the end yeaa similar to Dawn and May's intro episodes.

And B/W Girls bike gets fried buy Pikachu lol
 
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