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The general Pokemon League / end of Sinnoh / Generation V thread

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:sweatlol: I was afraid of that, but there are plenty of other things in Pokemon that offend people. Would a flirty girl be totally out there?

Lol its preposterous how many little things can offend people, like a Jynx *rolls eyes*. I don't think it'd be that bad. I can just see a bunch of female organizations going overboard.
 

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People would start calling her a slut if she was like that. I don't think they should have a flirty girl on the main cast, that's asking for trouble lol.
 

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People would start calling her a slut if she was like that. I don't think they should have a flirty girl on the main cast, that's asking for trouble lol.
:lol: True, but people call Dawn a slut & all she does is wear a short skirt.
 

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People would start calling her a slut if she was like that. I don't think they should have a flirty girl on the main cast, that's asking for trouble lol.

Exactly right? And then some girl will be offended and right a criticism report and they'll end up having to recolor the girls skin purp- oh wait what were we saying again??? :). Oh well, we probably won't see any flirty women, I wonder what her personality would be like, everybody is saying really tomboyish, but Idk, she doesn't exactly HAVE to be a tomboy.
 

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She would just be called "romantic". I think people are reflecting their inner thoughts on something that just isn't there.
 

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I know she doesn't HAVE to be a tomboy. But her looks do sort of have an adventure-going feel to them. If she was a coordinator I wonder how they would make her style different from the other coordinating protagonists we have had.
 

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I know she doesn't HAVE to be a tomboy. But her looks do sort of have an adventure-going feel to them. If she was a coordinator I wonder how they would make her style different from the other coordinating protagonists we have had.

May's R/S (not to mention Emerald) clothes didn't really look coordinator-like, either, but she still entered contests.

If the B/W girl was a coordinator she could still have a contest dress similar to Dawn's. Wearing one outfit (her B/W outfit) doesn't automatically lock her into one style. Or, for her contest outfit, she could wear something somewhat more athletic than Dawn's pink dress.
 

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So, DP had its fair share of arcs and I'd love for this to continue in BW.

What kind of arcs would you want to see?
How long would you want a BW arc (not the saga) to last?
Would you want COTA's or characters introduced before the arc to be involved?


An arc is say the Summer School plot.
I'll answer these myself later.
 
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So, DP had its fair share of arcs and I'd love for this to continue in BW.

I agree... DP really gave us a lot of arcs: 3 parter opening, 3 parter Cheryl arc, 3 parter tag battles tournament, 3-5 parter (depends how you count it) Wallace Cup, 4 parts summer school, and probably more I forgot (there were a lot of 2 parters too if you count them, for Gyms/Contests/Galactic and other stuff)
Most of these were awesome

What kind of arcs would you want to see?

Type tournaments, make them a regular thing in the region that happens once in a while, all 2 or 3 eps long:
- Grass type tournament: Ash will use all his grass type Poké (Bulbasaur, Bayleef, Sceptile, Torterra and any new grass Poké he'll have, probably Tsutaja)
- Fire type tournament: Ash will use most of his fire type Poké (Quilava, Torkoal, Infernape and any new fire Poké he'll have... I guess Chari can't fly all the way to Isshu so it won't appear)
- Water type tournament: Ash will use most of his water type Poké (Kingler, Totodile, Corphish, Buizel and any new water Poké... I say for Squirtle the same as I said for Chari) Misty might appear here


Other than that, another tag battles tournament and/or a tag Contest can be nice too
I hoped for a tag electric tournament with Ash/Pika & Dawn/Pachi but sadly that won't happen... but they might do something similar with BW girl

Of course the evil team should get a conclusion who will be at least 3 eps
Other than that (and the obvious League/GF) I hope for a second Wallace Cup (or similar kind of Contest) with May and Dawn being there

How long would you want a BW arc to last?

You mean the whole BW series? I believe it'll be about 4 years (=about 191 eps) just like AG and DP
And I think it's just about the right time a generation can and should last (but I won't mind a 5 years gen, of course that would require a short saga like Orange/BF... which it seems they don't want to do anymore)

Would you want COTA's or characters introduced before the arc to be involved?[/b]

We can get both: recurring characters appearing AND new characters introduced
It was this way in DP, but maybe with a little too much focus on recurring characters...
 

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Yeah, two girls and two guys would be perfect. And yeah Brock needs to gtfo lol. I'm tired of him. :|

I'd like to see that too. I thought the AG dynamic was excellent. Sexes aside, four travelers was a welcome addition, it kind of sucked that they went back to a trio. They should have had someone that Brock could connect with but that's all ancient history now.

I'm still a fan of Brock, and Croagunk Is kind of a mascot. I'm not 100% sure he'll leave.

People would start calling her a slut if she was like that. I don't think they should have a flirty girl on the main cast, that's asking for trouble lol.

Like they did when Lyra was introduced, because she tried to ship everyone off.

True, but people call Dawn a slut & all she does is wear a short skirt.

It's a very short skirt, for a small girl. Plus have you seen some of that negligee she had packed for her journey. Not least that line to Kenny 'Come on! Don't ya think I'm cute'

I can see why people think she's provocative.

How long would you want a BW arc to last?

I'm neutral to the other two. I hope BW Isn't as long as Sinnoh or Jhoto. They seem to have gone on for eternities. I wish they kept all saga's relatively short. Maybe just a little bit longer than Kanto. We'd sit through less fillers that way, and wouldn't have to wait half a decade for some change. Maybe an alternative ark to BF! Which sucked imo. The only think I thank that ark for Is May and Aipom.
 

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Cleared the confusion in my last post. I meant the length of arcs in terms of episodes eg the Summer School arc was four episodes. But anyway:

How long in years do you want the BW saga to last?

What kind of arcs would you want to see?

I want a big PokéRinger competition like we havn't seen before. While I've enjoy the previous episodes in which we've seen them, I think that there is always ways in which they could be spiced up. I could see tag and double battles as well as more then just one point winning the match. Make it like football/soccer where the team with the most points win when a time limit has expired.
And have James get somewhere in it!

How long would you want a BW arc (not the saga) to last?

Three to four episodes I think is sufficient. Allows for development in arcs but also doesn't drag them on for too long.

Would you want COTA's or characters introduced before the arc to be involved?

A mixture of both with bias towards COTA's. Some of my favourite characters, Holly for instance, didn't get the chance to be annoying because they didn't appear after their arc.
 

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I want a big PokéRinger competition like we havn't seen before. While I've enjoy the previous episodes in which we've seen them, I think that there is always ways in which they could be spiced up. I could see tag and double battles as well as more then just one point winning the match. Make it like football/soccer where the team with the most points win when a time limit has expired.
And have James get somewhere in it!

Unless he gets his own flying type Pokemon, he's not going to win. The writers have made that abundently clear. I'd rather they just not do this again if Kojiro is just going to lose. I really hope he wins something next series. Musashi made Top 4 in the Grand Festival, when will Kojiro get his due?

As for BW in general, (sorry, I know this isn't what you asked) I'd like a shorter arc this time. Now I'm not one of those who think DP had a lot of fillers, but it would be nice to see Satoshi's gyms move along a little faster. I think series alternating between a long arc and two shorter arcs like it has been would would be great. Gives the show a bit of variety.

That being sad, I don't think we need another BF. Hopefully the 5th Gen gives us something else Satoshi could do.
 

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I prefer a shorter arc next time too. Hoenn's pacing but with DP's mini-arcs would be perfect.

I loved it that Hoenn was only 130 episodes. The Gyms and Contests moved at a good pace and Ash's Hoenn Pokemon evolved the fastest.

Granted Hoenn still had a lot of filler, so if they do 130 eps like that but with DP's mini-arcs and rivals/recurring characters, that would be the best.
 

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I prefer a shorter arc next time too. Hoenn's pacing but with DP's mini-arcs would be perfect.

I loved it that Hoenn was only 130 episodes. The Gyms and Contests moved at a good pace and Ash's Hoenn Pokemon evolved the fastest.

Granted Hoenn still had a lot of filler, so if they do 130 eps like that but with DP's mini-arcs and rivals/recurring characters, that would be the best.

This I'd haft to agree with, but the amount of fillers? Meh, I thought hoenn was cool (though I only saw a few episodes then...)

I just hope next generation will be just as in love with the games as DP was! Give me the game love and I'm in! (wait, the games will be cool right? it's not digimon is it?) :rolleyes: No matter what happens though you know Scott's going to be there for us all to comfort us espicially Piplup in complaining ways...

So moving on, Cyndaquil's evolving! We got two cool fire-types in the league now! Two flyers, two waters, two grass-types, one eletric, and one ground... Right?
 

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I want a big PokéRinger competition like we havn't seen before. While I've enjoy the previous episodes in which we've seen them, I think that there is always ways in which they could be spiced up. I could see tag and double battles as well as more then just one point winning the match. Make it like football/soccer where the team with the most points win when a time limit has expired.
And have James get somewhere in it!

I already said before that I'd love it if they made a big deal of Pokéringer and Pokémon ping pong and made them like a secondary plot for Ash and Dawn
But I know that's very unlikely to ever happen... especially ping pong which I don't really expect to ever be mentioned again (I don't know why, I just really liked that ping pong ep)
 

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Nah, Pokeringer isn't all that. Its more of a traveling competition for flying types. The Whirl Cup was like that too except it was annual and stationary. If a third or new quest were to be added it would most likely be the Pokethlon because of the variety of events it has and how it could be spread out like the gyms.
 

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So, DP had its fair share of arcs and I'd love for this to continue in BW.

Agreed and I love that the arcs lead to something throughout DP. The quality of an arc is hightened when it impacts the character's storyline and developpement, when it actually leads to something.

What kind of arcs would you want to see?

It really depends on what the storyline is in Isshu. If contests are dropped as a regular main quest (which I neither neither want nor think will happen), I would really like an arc with Dawn, maybe May and some of the Top coordinators, like Wallace, Fantina, Jasmine, Johanna, Zoey, Solidad, Robert and Drew in a competition for people who have won a Grand Festival or competed in a GF final.

If contests stay, then I'd like something a little more sporty (NOT POKÉATHLON, that ship has thankfully sailed, it was done in the anime, it was awful, never want to see it again) like Pokéringer (main girl and maybe third party member need to participate), but with some changes (tag team ? Acutal Teams since Ash has 3 flying pokémon (4 if you count Charizard and maybe a 5th).

Whatever happens, I want this...

- A Dawn arc (since she'll probably leave at the end of DP) of 5 episodes
- A Tag team battle arc
- A small arc where the main character trio is split up and maybe forced to travel with rivals...
- Vilain team arc, same as DP (not in plot, but in length and frequence)
- Gym leader arcs, like in DP
- A small arc that's solely for the third wheel. Brock should have had an arc to him this season.
- Arcs to showcase Ash's old pokémon more often.

How long would you want a BW arc (not the saga) to last?

Depends, I think the Dawn arc should be 5-6 episodes next saga.

Arcs like the Hearthome tag team competition, the Galactic finally, the Wallace and the Grand Festival (definitely the Grand Festival) could have benefited from 1-2 more episodes.

As for gym leader arcs, 3-5 not necessarily consecutive episodes were a good move in DP and should continue.

I wish they would have done more one-shot episodes like Ring Masters though were we see Ash's old pokémon. But just for one episode and I don't want to see them used in gyms.

Would you want COTA's or characters introduced before the arc to be involved?

The more recurring characters the better. The first tie around, the pokéathlon missed the presence of a rival like Paul who could really add tension. So the less COTA the better, unless they come back later like Conway. Angie on the other hand didn't really contribute to a lot in the overall scheme of things. The more recurring characters in the arc the better. In the Pokéathlon, while Paul, Ash and James was good, they could have introduced Nando's Altaria in there or shown Barry's Staraptor or reintroduce Holly here... The less COTA the better.

I prefer a shorter arc next time too. Hoenn's pacing but with DP's mini-arcs would be perfect.

I loved it that Hoenn was only 130 episodes. The Gyms and Contests moved at a good pace and Ash's Hoenn Pokemon evolved the fastest.

Granted Hoenn still had a lot of filler, so if they do 130 eps like that but with DP's mini-arcs and rivals/recurring characters, that would be the best.

I totally agree with that, except that DP's length didn't bother me.

Yeah, since Nando didn't battle Dawn, I'm sure he'll battle Ash... especially when Ash often take hints from Contests into regular battles and this will be the perfect opportuinity (which is also why I suggested he'll "copy" Dawn's team, which I think was first Iteru or Gible's idea)

That's what I said. I see Buizel/Quilava and maybe Togekiss getting main focus in the Nando fight. The only way the bunch of pokémon seen in the OP make sense is that they mirror other people's lineup. Dawn (Glalie, Donphan, Noctowl, Quilava) or Barry (Snorlax/Torkoal could mirror Snorlax/Rapidash).

And Conway... I can't see why they'd bother to get him to the League if he won't battle Ash so yeah...

Me too

There's still a chance of Ash VS Barry, but I just get this feeling they'll go for Paul VS Barry instead - it makes sense plot wise

I used to think that, but I think it'll be Ash v Barry, with Gible and Totodile getting the most focus in the battle and Torterra, Infernape, Snorlax and Staraptor, with Infernape not defeating anything in the battle, sets up a bad comment by Paul, which makes Barry change his mind and sets up Infernape destroying Paul's team.

And if that's the case, I'd like Gible to beat Kenny's Empoleon - to get revenge on SOME Empoleon, if it can't on Barry's one... (and if Ash does battle Barry, then I want Gible to LOSE to Kenny's Empo and then beat Barry's)

I actually hoope we don't see Gible v Kenny's Empoleon either way, it would be a bit too repetitive. Gible can kick Floatzel's/Breloom/Alakazam's ass
 
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I prefer a shorter arc next time too. Hoenn's pacing but with DP's mini-arcs would be perfect.

I loved it that Hoenn was only 130 episodes. The Gyms and Contests moved at a good pace and Ash's Hoenn Pokemon evolved the fastest.

Granted Hoenn still had a lot of filler, so if they do 130 eps like that but with DP's mini-arcs and rivals/recurring characters, that would be the best.

Yeah, I think Isshu should be 130 episodes or so too. With some other arc afterwards...
 

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I think the length of the next saga will depend on how big the region is, how much time til the next gen games, and everything that's in the region. I wouldn't want them to shorten the region just for another saga if that meant skipping a lot of important things or half-assing some stuff.
 
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