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The general Pokemon League / end of Sinnoh / Generation V thread

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Jukain

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Holly/Honoka. <-You may have struck gold there, but not in the way you're thinking. I'm pointing at Brock's new purpose. Do I expect the writers to remember stuff like that? I don't know. o.o It might be silly to expect her to have a legend, though.

I vote for something unrelated to anything and will more than likely end up with -son at the end of its name in English.
 

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Reggie has no reason to be in the league.

Trying to prove to Paul that his methods are wrong and prove to Paul that he's strong himself. To test his brothers strenght.

We won't see him compete against Paul in the same tournament either.

Then why did the writers establish him as a trainer/former trainer in the first place ? It served no purpose whatsoever...

Holly/Honoka. <-You may have struck gold there, but not in the way you're thinking. I'm pointing at Brock's new purpose.

Whichever way, he departure always felt like it hinted at a return later on. Whether as a league opponent or as a key for Brock to discover that his true passion is double battling alongside Holly, I expect a return appearance from her.
 

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Trying to prove to Paul that his methods are wrong and prove to Paul that he's strong himself.

Its Ash's job to prove to Paul that his training philosophies are wrong. That is why the rivalry was built. And Reggie already has a better record than Paul as it stands because Reggie got 6 frontier symbols and badges from at least four regions.
 

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Its Ash's job to prove to Paul that his training philosophies are wrong. That is why the rivalry was built.

Hence why I said trying. While I do agree that it's Ash's job to beat Paul in the League and that it'll almost definitely happen, but still Reggie has no way of knowing that Ash would A- meet Paul in battle at the League or B- whether or not Ash would win.

I'm not saying Reggie's a definite shoe-in for the role of Legnedary trainer, just that he shouldn't be dismissed as a candidate.

And Reggie already has a better record than Paul as it stands because Reggie got 6 frontier symbols and badges from at least four regions.

and Reggie losing to Brandon is what made Paul become the jerk he is. Because Brandon said that Reggie wasn't strong, Paul decided that he needed to be strong at all cost. Seems to me that Reggie's past as a trainer is a huge part of Paul's storyline...
 

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Why not? Having the members of a family fighting each other in a tournament is always exciting, especially when said siblings have opposite ideologies/fighting methods.

I actually like that idea.

Brother curbstomping Paul because he's gotten too much of an ego?

Pokemon writers: grow half a brain and a nut and please make this story happen!!

And silly humans, Holly is stuffed into a refrigerator. |: IDK, I would have liked it better if Lucy joined Brock *LUCKSHIPPING*
 

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You know, that's something that has not hit me until now. Ash has officially surpassed Reggie the instant he got the Beacon Badge. I don't feel he'll participate in the league, though. If I remember, Reggie is quite fine with being a breeder now. If Reggie honestly didn't expect Ash and Paul to face each other in the league, then he has little faith in the both of them, and that just isn't true.
 

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You know what would be really interesting if when Ash found out about Isshu is from Reggie who decides to regress into being a trainer and travel there to complete in the league. Meanwhile, Paul will attempt to conquer the Battle Frontier in Kanto.
 

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Jimmy from the first Hoso is also a prime suspect to me, i mean with all these recent HG/SS advertisements (including Ash getting a jouto evo.) I wouldn't put it past them for him to show up with Raikou or something...

Of course i've had an intresting thought about the "legendary" as well but I don't wanna say it and get shot down immediantly--;
 

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No really say it...if its that bad I'll let you down without firing a hyper beam at you.

I'm thinking the possibility for a Johto legendary is extremely high given that we have HGSS and all these Johto pokemon.
 

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^if you insist...

I've been thinking, Ash has four rivals already..does he really need a fifth one? The conclusion that i've come to is simple.

What if the sentance about Ash "facing a trainer with a legendary pokemon" has a double meaning to it, what this means is Ash catches a legendary pokemon sometime during the league between battles and uses it against one of his four opponents.

Highly unlikely yes, but look at what sinnoh's done so far and how many "self proclaimed" fandom rules they've broken, not to mention with how many legendaries keep showing up it could be possible, especially if this is to be Ash's "hurrah" like some keep thinking.
 

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Not impossible but the its a fanmade rule that probably won't ever break. To modify your scenario it is possible that a legendary could loan its strength to Ash in the same sense that Articuno isn't Noland's pokemon but shows up to battle with him occasionally.
 

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Well the writers have had Ash catch at least one pokemon with every opening. It's unlikely but not outside the realm of possibility.
 

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Based on the pacing, it seems like there is no time for a Pallet Town ep this saga. I bet the re-visit to Pallet will only be like 5-7 minutes of the last DP episode, rather than spending a lot of time there.

It seems like the main cast has grown too large, and now I believe the main cast will never be reunited in a single ep again.

We're bound to see Tracey since he's always there, but now I believe Misty/Max won't get a real appearance in DP at all. They could be shown watching Ash's league on TV, but I simply cannot see them appearing at Pallet with this limited time left.
 

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Based on the pacing, it seems like there is no time for a Pallet Town ep this saga. I bet the re-visit to Pallet will only be like 5-7 minutes of the last DP episode, rather than spending a lot of time there.

We cant know that.

We're bound to see Tracey since he's always there, but now I believe Misty/Max won't get a real appearance in DP at all. They could be shown watching Ash's league on TV, but I simply cannot see them appearing at Pallet with this limited time left.

And who says they have to appear at Pallet?They can return for something else,outside of it.
Do i need to remind people how in interview with mr.Hidaka it wasnt specified when will Misty return,he only mentioned how it could be for tournament or for something else.Now that i think about it,he also brought up contests into that,but didnt wanted to explain what he meant.

I guess we will just have to wait and see,what future brings.Writers already showed how unpredictable they can be,so nothing is out of being possible.
 

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Jimmy from the first Hoso is also a prime suspect to me, i mean with all these recent HG/SS advertisements (including Ash getting a jouto evo.) I wouldn't put it past them for him to show up with Raikou or something...

I could see this happening, but I don't think it'll happen because...

DP emphasized the importance of recurring characters over random characters

Which means I think the legendary trainer, since it's not Buck, is still a character we've probably already met during DP. They didn't introduce any new characters for the Grand Festival, I don't see them pulling a character Ash has never met... but it's definitely a possibility. Though...

I believe the OP was a hint and the legendary user will own Entei, Darkrai and Lucario

I agree with this.

So I think a logical thing to do would be: Ash battle Leona and Allan in the preliminaries, then Ash battle Conway the Top 32 (well, just going with how the GF did it...) then Top 16 is Ash VS Nando, Top 8 is Ash VS Barry or VS random character, Top 4 is Ash VS Paul and then the final is Ash VS legendary user
If preliminaries are double battles, we will see 4 Poké doing preliminaries and then 5 full battles giving us 30 Poké... making it a total of 34 Poké used (with repeats counted of course)

This is also what I think, but I see Top 8 being either Ash/Barry or Paul/Barry. I think we'll only see one featured battle per round and this is the one round I could see Ash not being a part of it.

What if the sentance about Ash "facing a trainer with a legendary pokemon" has a double meaning to it, what this means is Ash catches a legendary pokemon sometime during the league between battles and uses it against one of his four opponents.

Nice in theory, but does the Japanese phrase leave anything to the interpretation ? Also, that sounds a bit DEM in my opinion. Capturing a legendary pokémon during the League and using it....

Based on the pacing, it seems like there is no time for a Pallet Town ep this saga.

That is also what I think. I think the writers will choose to close Dawn and Brock's storylines the right way and focus on that instead of going back to Pallet for doing some fan servicing to the older fans, especially with the reserves being used in the League. I think Ash, Dawn and Brock will part ways in Sinnoh, each leaving for a different region. Ash to Isshu, Dawn to like Johto/Kanto/Hoenn and Brock could either stay in Sinnoh or leave for a region different from Dawn/Ash.

That being said, we could see Misty/Max during the League, whether in person or as cameos.
 
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That is also what I think. I think the writers will choose to close Dawn and Brock's storylines the right way and focus on that instead of going back to Pallet for doing some fan servicing to the older fans, especially with the reserves being used in the League. I think Ash, Dawn and Brock will part ways in Sinnoh, each leaving for a different region. Ash to Isshu, Dawn to like Johto/Kanto/Hoenn and Brock could either stay in Sinnoh or leave for a region different from Dawn/Ash.

That being said, we could see Misty/Max during the League, whether in person or as cameos.

Yes, I agree also. Especially as if Brock is finding a new goal they will need an episode or so to focus on this.
I must say I'm enjoying reading all the speculations on who the legendary trainer is. I personally have no idea.
I know it doesn't say the trainer will only have one legendary, but do people really think Ash will have to battle three legendaries?
 

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I think the legendary trainer will be from Isshu, it would be a nice set up IMO.
 

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Eh, I think they'll do a Pallet town episode this time around. If Dawn, and Brock are truly gone in the same episode I don't really want a rushed goodbye. That being said I don't know what Brock's new dream is, so depending on w/e that is it's going to determine where he goes or if he stays. Dawn is more than likely running off with Kenny, or Zoey. Hopefully the latter.
 

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What's the obsession with the tie ? I don't get this. You kept saying that in the GF threads too...

Sure, it's unpredictable and that's interesting for about one third of a second, but quite frankly, it would feel rather cheated if Ash were to tie to one of his minor rivals like Conway and Nando, because they've never really been shown to be on Ash's level...

He could tie with Paul, too. And yeah, the unpredictable factor is what makes me want it so bad. How many times do we get to see a main character beat a rival, or lose to one. Tieing with one, is much more original.

It's a shame this League is ending up to be very rushed, same as the Grand Festival really. I mean, Ash and Dawn both had long, difficult, and challenging journeys this saga. Why couldn't the writer's make everything more detailed.

I just noticed that Johto's Leage was a tad bit rushed too. It really is sad that promotion plays such a huge factor into this series as it does. I honestly don't see why the writer's have to make BW start this September really.

Seriously, I don't know about y'all, but I would have been totally fine with Sinnoh ending in 2011, for some extra League and Grand Festival episodes.

Promotion is good for money, yes, but I really do wish the writers didn't base it on that mostly. It sucks that characters have to suffer, especially the main characters and their rivals, just to hurry up and promote the games.

I love the show and the games, moreso the show. But still, releasing the games next year, while finishing the saga this year nice and detailed is not a bad thing.

Main characters like Misty, May, and even Dawn have tremendous fanbases and it is understandable why so many get up set with the replacements.

I believe I will always watch and love Pokemon, but this whole promotion thing has gotta stop or at least be toned down.

LMAO, just when HG/SS was being released, we saw Kotone, and a whole bunch of Johto pokemon, with starters and such. I mean, I love Johto Pokemon, but I think it's funny, how in the episode where Dawn battled James, every other pokemon in the contest besides Mamoswine and Carnivine were Johto Pokemon.

If that's not Johto promotion, I don't know what is. But I love Johto, that wasn't an issue. It sucks we have to get a rushed League, and a rushed Grand Festival because of it in general.

Dawn came in 2nd yes, but the only full battle we saw her win was against Ursula, which we've seen twice before. The writers could have at least made Dawn vs Jessie be longer, especially considering they were both main characters, and Dawn didn't end up winning the whole thing to make up for these rushed battles.

I'm not bitter or angry, but the whole promotion ordeal is my only critique with this show.
 
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