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The Generation 1 Remake Discussion Thread

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Elm's note could imply that she will start her journey in the future. The picture of the Johto Starters could imply that she's trying to decide which one she'll choose when she does get the chance.
While this would prove her existence, it wouldn't serve any other point. There would be much to do with her in a game where she was already a trainer.
 
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Well, I have my planned Gym Leader and Elite Four teams. (Rematches will come later.) This is a work in progress, mind you.

Brock:

TM: Rock Tomb
- Geodude Lv10
- Aron Lv10
- Onix Lv12​

Aron's now a part of the Regional Dex, so why not? Don't be scared by the Steel typing. You'll have Nidoran with Double Kick on Route 22 just like last time, as well as your choice of either Squirtle or Wooper (new Route 22 catch) for a Water type (the latter also doubles as a Ground type). Ironically, Aron also makes things a little easier for Charmander/Pikachu, as it has poor Sp. Defense and takes neutral damage from their STABs. Otherwise, the battle's the same as original Yellow (but with Rock Tomb instead of Bide).

Misty:

TM: Rain Dance
- Staryu Lv18
- Wooper Lv18
- Starmie Lv21​

Wooper's another addition similar to Aron, although it also doubles as a reference to Misty's GSC/HGSS team (where she has a Quagsire). Suffice to say, it will probably better to fight Misty with a Grass type (Ivysaur, Bayleef, Gloom, Weepinbell, and Nuzleaf are all options) instead of Pikachu. With her team packing Rain Dance, you'll probably want the Water resistance.

Lt. Surge:

TM: Charge Beam
- Elekid Lv26
- Raichu Lv28​

Yes, the evil overleveled Raichu from Yellow is back, and it's brought a friend this time. :evil: With all of the Ground type options you have before Surge (Quagsire/Nidoroyals/Graveler/Dugtrio), though, it won't be that bad.

Erika:

TM: Energy Ball
- Tangela Lv30
- Weepinbell Lv32
- Bellossom Lv32​

Her Gloom has evolved, and she's packing a stronger TM, but otherwise, Erika's still just as much a pushover as ever.

Koga:

TM: Toxic
- Ariados Lv38
- Muk Lv40
- Golbat Lv40
- Venomoth Lv42​

No more Lv50 Venomoth! Yes, Koga's levels have been hit with the nerf hammer, but in exchange, the three Venonat have been replaced by stronger Pokémon (that also happen to reference his GSC/HGSS team).

Sabrina:

TM: Calm Mind
- Kadabra Lv43
- Espeon Lv43
- Alakazam Lv45​

Like Koga, Sabrina has also been hit with the nerf hammer, but in exchange for the lower levels come stronger Pokémon (aka. Espeon instead of Abra). Nevertheless, this will probably be the easiest Sabrina's ever been in Gen 1, as you'll finally have access to good Dark and Ghost types to deal with her.

Blaine:

TM: Overheat
- Ninetales Lv48
- Rapidash Lv50
- Magmortar Lv54​

His old ace of Arcanine has been swapped out for the more fitting Magmortar, but otherwise, he hasn't changed much. Even with the higher levels, Surf/Earthquake should take him out pretty fast.

Giovanni:

TM: Earthquake
- Dugtrio Lv50
- Persian Lv53
- Nidoqueen Lv53
- Nidoking Lv55
- Rhyperior Lv55​

Am I the only one who wants to see Fissure return as a TM? (Maybe, it can come back as a Move Tutor.) Anyways, Giovanni's pretty much the same as in Yellow, except that his Rhydon is now fully-evolved. He should still be the easiest 8th Gym Leader ever.

Lorelei:

- Milotic Lv54
- Cloyster Lv53
- Mamoswine Lv54
- Jynx Lv56
- Lapras Lv56​

What's that, a Milotic? Well, didn't you know that Lorelei is supposed to be a dual Water/Ice specialist, and how could such a beautiful, elegant Pokémon not be fitting for her? (Plus, Dewgong is a terribad Pokémon that has no business being on an Elite Four team, so it needed to be replaced.) The Piloswine from her FRLG rematch team also returns, except it's now both fully-evolved and packing physical STAB.

Bruno:

- Steelix Lv53
- Hitmonchan Lv55
- Hitmonlee Lv55
- Hitmontop Lv55
- Machamp Lv58​

Even with all of the buffs the later Gens gave Fighting, it's hard not to make Bruno a complete pushover. Having Steelix instead of (lol) Onix helps, though, since it resists everything Fighting is weak against and can strike back Super Effectively with Rock Slide/Crunch/Iron Tail. Starmie still nukes this team, however.

Agatha:

- Spiritomb Lv56
- Crobat Lv56
- Banette Lv55
- Mismagius Lv58
- Gengar Lv60​

Agatha's team has probably gotten the biggest makeover out of any of the GLs/E4s combined, and for obvious reasons. I'll keep the bat (now a Crobat) since it fits her "creepy old witch" theme, but the (lol) Haunter, Arbok (like Dewgong and Onix, another terribad Pokémon who has no business being on an Elite Four team), and extra Gengar are all gone and have been swapped for better Pokémon. People expecting to sweep her with a Psychic type again will get a rude awakening when she first sends out Spiritomb.

Lance:

- Gyarados Lv58
- Kingdra Lv56
- Ampharos Lv56
- Aerodactyl Lv60
- Dragonite Lv62​

No, I don't mind Lance's team not being strictly mono-Dragon. His style has always been Dragon Themed, not Dragon Type, so any Pokémon with draconic origins is fair game for him, regardless of its actual typing. (Plus, his team would actually be more boring if it was strictly mono-Dragon, since the type is so few in number and has terribad diversity in secondary types.) That being said, the Dragonair twins had to go, and I think Kingdra and Ampharos (its Japanese name means "Electric Dragon," and its Mega is part-Dragon) are suitable replacements. Kingdra references his FRLG rematch team (and is something that isn't weak to Ice or Electric), and Ampharos presents a rude awakening to the Water type you're undoubtedly planning to use against him.
 
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Misty:

TM: Rain Dance
- Staryu Lv18
- Wooper Lv18
- Starmie Lv21​

Wooper's another addition similar to Aron, although it also doubles as a reference to Misty's GSC/HGSS team (where she has a Quagsire). Suffice to say, it will probably better to fight Misty with a Grass type (Ivysaur, Bayleef, Gloom, Weepinbell, and Nuzleaf are all options) instead of Pikachu. With her team packing Rain Dance, you'll probably want the Water resistance.
Kanto has tons upon tons of Water types, so is Staryu really necessary? There's tons of other options. I do like how you threw in Wooper to counter Electric types, maybe you could throw in something to counter Grass too. Maybe Tentacool?

Lt. Surge:

TM: Charge Beam
- Elekid Lv26
- Raichu Lv28​

Yes, the evil overleveled Raichu from Yellow is back, and it's brought a friend this time. :evil: With all of the Ground type options you have before Surge (Quagsire/Nidoroyals/Graveler/Dugtrio), though, it won't be that bad.
Elekid is pretty weak for a gym battle, throw in something like Voltorb or Magnemite instead.

Koga:

TM: Toxic
- Ariados Lv38
- Muk Lv40
- Golbat Lv40
- Venomoth Lv42​

No more Lv50 Venomoth! Yes, Koga's levels have been hit with the nerf hammer, but in exchange, the three Venonat have been replaced by stronger Pokémon (that also happen to reference his GSC/HGSS team).
Venomoth is also kinda weak, and a bad main for Koga. Muk, Weezing, or Crobat would be better choices.

Sabrina:

TM: Calm Mind
- Kadabra Lv43
- Espeon Lv43
- Alakazam Lv45​

Like Koga, Sabrina has also been hit with the nerf hammer, but in exchange for the lower levels come stronger Pokémon (aka. Espeon instead of Abra). Nevertheless, this will probably be the easiest Sabrina's ever been in Gen 1, as you'll finally have access to good Dark and Ghost types to deal with her.
Again with the duplicates, there's more than 2 Psychic types in Kanto you know. Mr. Mime would be a good alternative here, now that its Fairy type it would be slightly more challenging since it's only weak to Ghost and Steel (and Poison, but since it's a Psychic type gym you're probably not going to want to use one). Maybe throw in one more Pokemon to differentiate it from her HGSS team.

Blaine:

TM: Overheat
- Ninetales Lv48
- Rapidash Lv50
- Magmortar Lv54​

His old ace of Arcanine has been swapped out for the more fitting Magmortar, but otherwise, he hasn't changed much. Even with the higher levels, Surf/Earthquake should take him out pretty fast.
This late in the game and you're only giving him 3 Pokemon? No, keep the Arcanine. Or you could swap it out for a Houndoom.

Giovanni:

TM: Earthquake
- Dugtrio Lv50
- Persian Lv53
- Nidoqueen Lv53
- Nidoking Lv55
- Rhyperior Lv55​
This would be decent if we were limited to cross gen evos, but there's so many great Ground types to choose from now. I'd like to see something like Excadrill or Krookodile on his team.

Am I the only one who wants to see Fissure return as a TM? (Maybe, it can come back as a Move Tutor.) Anyways, Giovanni's pretty much the same as in Yellow, except that his Rhydon is now fully-evolved. He should still be the easiest 8th Gym Leader ever.
No, they were right to remove the OHKO moves as TMs in 2nd gen, they're so lopsided moves. Either you OHKO the Pokemon or you do no damage at all (usually the latter). Not very appropriate for a TM.

Lorelei:

- Milotic Lv54
- Cloyster Lv53
- Mamoswine Lv54
- Jynx Lv56
- Lapras Lv56​

What's that, a Milotic? Well, didn't you know that Lorelei is supposed to be a dual Water/Ice specialist, and how could such a beautiful, elegant Pokémon not be fitting for her? (Plus, Dewgong is a terribad Pokémon that has no business being on an Elite Four team, so it needed to be replaced.) The Piloswine from her FRLG rematch team also returns, except it's now both fully-evolved and packing physical STAB.
Except all of her dialogue says that he's an Ice specialist, and the only reason she had so many Water types was because of the limited amount of Ice types. Ditch the Milotic and throw in another Ice type.

Bruno:

- Steelix Lv53
- Hitmonchan Lv55
- Hitmonlee Lv55
- Hitmontop Lv55
- Machamp Lv58​

Even with all of the buffs the later Gens gave Fighting, it's hard not to make Bruno a complete pushover. Having Steelix instead of (lol) Onix helps, though, since it resists everything Fighting is weak against and can strike back Super Effectively with Rock Slide/Crunch/Iron Tail. Starmie still nukes this team, however.
Steelix has absolutely nothing to do with Fighting (the only Fighting type move it knows is Rock Smash), even when they pick random types they at least go for something that is semi-related to the type (Lance's team is a good example) and can use that type's moves. Swap it out for something else.

Lance:

- Gyarados Lv58
- Kingdra Lv56
- Ampharos Lv56
- Aerodactyl Lv60
- Dragonite Lv62​

No, I don't mind Lance's team not being strictly mono-Dragon. His style has always been Dragon Themed, not Dragon Type, so any Pokémon with draconic origins is fair game for him, regardless of its actual typing. (Plus, his team would actually be more boring if it was strictly mono-Dragon, since the type is so few in number and has terribad diversity in secondary types.) That being said, the Dragonair twins had to go, and I think Kingdra and Ampharos (its Japanese name means "Electric Dragon," and its Mega is part-Dragon) are suitable replacements. Kingdra references his FRLG rematch team (and is something that isn't weak to Ice or Electric), and Ampharos presents a rude awakening to the Water type you're undoubtedly planning to use against him.
Well Lance's team was mainly Dragon themed because he never had more than Dragonite to work with, but I'd be okay with one or two not-Dragon types. I think Gyarados and Aerodactyl are pretty poor choices though, Gyarados is fairly redundant next to Kingdra (and as you said, Kingdra is better defensively because it's not weak to Ice), and Aerodactyl doesn't have as much in common with Dragons as the likes of Gyarados, Charizard, and Ampharos. I'd throw in at least one more actual Dragon here, and maybe bring back Charizard if you want to keep another pseudo Dragon, he would make a good counter for Ice and Fairy types.

Also, Mega Altaria is Fairy, not Altaria. But giving it some Fairy type moves certainly wouldn't hurt since it provides an extra counter to your own Dragon types.
 
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I just had an interesting idea - what if there was an event item (Could be similar to the HG/SS Celebi event, or just a new path to 'Mt. Silver') that allowed you to battle Ethan/Lyra? (Ethan in IR, Lyra in SG, however if you have HG/SS data it would use your protagonist and team). Default team would be Spiky-Eared Pichu, Ho-Oh or Suicune (Ho-Oh for Ethan, Suicune for Lyra), Togekiss and the three starters (Meganium, Feraligator and Typhlosion). Would use either Mega Togekiss or a Mega Typhlosion/Meganium (Fire Typhlosion for Ethan, Grass/Fairy Meganium for Lyra). After the battle, Ethan/Lyra would leave behind the Mega Stone they used (or of your starter if you have saved data), and the pokemon in your party that knows Fly (Or a pokemon that CAN fly, such as Charizard or Pidgeot), will appear and you can interact with it to fly back. If you have no flying-like Pokemon at all, then it would default to Articuno.
 
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I just had an interesting idea - what if there was an event item (Could be similar to the HG/SS Celebi event, or just a new path to 'Mt. Silver') that allowed you to battle Ethan/Lyra? (Ethan in IR, Lyra in SG, however if you have HG/SS data it would use your protagonist and team). Default team would be Spiky-Eared Pichu, Ho-Oh or Suicune (Ho-Oh for Ethan, Suicune for Lyra), Togekiss and the three starters (Meganium, Feraligator and Typhlosion). Would use either Mega Togekiss or a Mega Typhlosion/Meganium (Fire Typhlosion for Ethan, Grass/Fairy Meganium for Lyra). After the battle, Ethan/Lyra would leave behind the Mega Stone they used (or of your starter if you have saved data), and the pokemon in your party that knows Fly (Or a pokemon that CAN fly, such as Charizard or Pidgeot), will appear and you can interact with it to fly back. If you have no flying-like Pokemon at all, then it would default to Articuno.
Why the hell Ho-Oh and not Lugia? Frankly, I don't think s/he should have any legendary Pokemon. Also, having a Mega Starter would show favoritism between Starters, which wouldn't be cool either. To be honest, I'm still pissed about all the Charizard love. And I don't think anyone would ever want to see the Spiky-eared Pichu again. Togekiss doesn't have a mega evolution as of this moment. Why would s/he fly away instead of vanishing like Red in HGSS?

Also, in a Remake discussion, Ethan and Lyra have not started their journey yet. Unless you're talking about Celebi sending you forward in time, which would be okay, but I think there's much more that can be done with that setup than simply fighting an NPC version of HGSS' protagonist.

Oh, and HGSS are Gen IV games. How would their data be transferred to a Gen VI/VII game? And more importantly, why would GF want to do something like that?
 
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I just had an interesting idea - what if there was an event item (Could be similar to the HG/SS Celebi event, or just a new path to 'Mt. Silver') that allowed you to battle Ethan/Lyra? (Ethan in IR, Lyra in SG, however if you have HG/SS data it would use your protagonist and team). Default team would be Spiky-Eared Pichu, Ho-Oh or Suicune (Ho-Oh for Ethan, Suicune for Lyra), Togekiss and the three starters (Meganium, Feraligator and Typhlosion). Would use either Mega Togekiss or a Mega Typhlosion/Meganium (Fire Typhlosion for Ethan, Grass/Fairy Meganium for Lyra). After the battle, Ethan/Lyra would leave behind the Mega Stone they used (or of your starter if you have saved data), and the pokemon in your party that knows Fly (Or a pokemon that CAN fly, such as Charizard or Pidgeot), will appear and you can interact with it to fly back. If you have no flying-like Pokemon at all, then it would default to Articuno.
Why the hell Ho-Oh and not Lugia? Frankly, I don't think s/he should have any legendary Pokemon. Also, having a Mega Starter would show favoritism between Starters, which wouldn't be cool either. To be honest, I'm still pissed about all the Charizard love. And I don't think anyone would ever want to see the Spiky-eared Pichu again. Togekiss doesn't have a mega evolution as of this moment. Why would s/he fly away instead of vanishing like Red in HGSS?

Also, in a Remake discussion, Ethan and Lyra have not started their journey yet. Unless you're talking about Celebi sending you forward in time, which would be okay, but I think there's much more that can be done with that setup than simply fighting an NPC version of HGSS' protagonist.

Oh, and HGSS are Gen IV games. How would their data be transferred to a Gen VI/VII game? And more importantly, why would GF want to do something like that?
*Because Ethan is much more commonly assosiated with Gold rather then Silver, but I suppose it would be better if Lyra had Lugia

*Good point, Mega starter should be random

*You don't speak for the community...

*IF it got a mega, this is a discussion about a new game

*I'm saying you as the player character would fly away

*This is a special unique event, but if you'd rather have Celebi take you forward in time that's fine too

*Presumably using HG/SS in a 3DS/New 3DS
 
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You do realize that such an event would reduce the original Red battle to a bizarre time travel experiment, right? It would mean that it was Generation I Red we saw on Mt. Silver as opposed to his older self; I don't see the appeal at all.

But then I don't see the appeal of remakes in the first place.
 
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*Because Ethan is much more commonly assosiated with Gold rather then Silver,
Who cares? The point of paired versions is that one isn't canon over the other, nor should they be (only third versions can try to claim being the canon one, and even those can be contested.)

*You don't speak for the community...
True. We should ask around.

*I'm saying you as the player character would fly away
That seems too convoluted. A simple black screen with you appearing in X Pokemon Center would be simpler. Also, why the hell Articuno? That seems too arbitrary.

*This is a special unique event,
That explanation does nothing to explain away the continuity problem.

*Presumably using HG/SS in a 3DS/New 3DS
And why would GF want to do that?
 
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Who cares? The point of paired versions is that one isn't canon over the other, nor should they be (only third versions can try to claim being the canon one, and even those can be contested.)

*You don't speak for the community...
True. We should ask around.

*I'm saying you as the player character would fly away
That seems too convoluted. A simple black screen with you appearing in X Pokemon Center would be simpler. Also, why the hell Articuno? That seems too arbitrary.

*This is a special unique event,
That explanation does nothing to explain away the continuity problem.

*Presumably using HG/SS in a 3DS/New 3DS
And why would GF want to do that?
*That's why I decided your idea was better :p

*Probably would be easier, I did Articuno based off its Pokedex entry

*This is a reply to Silk too, the main point is that you as a character aren't going forward in time, you as a player are playing with your canon player character in the future.

*Why would GF do any of the crazy things us fans suggest? Its not like any of us ever expect our suggestions to be seen :p
 
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*This is a reply to Silk too, the main point is that you as a character aren't going forward in time, you as a player are playing with your canon player character in the future.
So the player would be forced to use Red's canon team, then. I still don't see the appeal.
 
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*This is a reply to Silk too, the main point is that you as a character aren't going forward in time, you as a player are playing with your canon player character in the future.
So the player would be forced to use Red's canon team, then. I still don't see the appeal.
No, no, the point is to make Red the NPC become Red the PC. If you went and played HGSS, you didn't battle your Kanto champion with your signature team, you battled Red the NPC. That's the point, making Red or Leaf YOUR canon character, not just another Champion.
 
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No, no, the point is to make Red the NPC become Red the PC. If you went and played HGSS, you didn't battle your Kanto champion with your signature team, you battled Red the NPC. That's the point, making Red or Leaf YOUR canon character, not just another Champion.
Then the time travel problem I mentioned would exist. Regardless, why does NPC Red need to become the player's avatar?
 
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No, no, the point is to make Red the NPC become Red the PC. If you went and played HGSS, you didn't battle your Kanto champion with your signature team, you battled Red the NPC. That's the point, making Red or Leaf YOUR canon character, not just another Champion.
Then the time travel problem I mentioned would exist. Regardless, why does NPC Red need to become the player's avatar?
Why does anything in Pokemon need to happen? :p And you as a character aren't time traveling, you as a player of the game are taking control of your player character 2 years in the future.

EDIT: Episode M confirmed. Battle alongside Mewtwo to stop a renegade branch of Team Rocket from capturing Mew and using it to create a new superclone in order to take control of Kanto. Ends with capturing Mew, and perhaps gives some backstory to why Red goes to Mt. Silver.
 
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Even though I like to see a RGB remake for the 3DS, I think maybe that a second remake would be repititive. A remake of Yellow would be nice, however. This way, they could make a Kantou remake that is different from FRLG. I never liked FRLG, because the graphics were so bad. I even preferred the original GB graphics over these, because I expected something better on GBA.

Glitches/Changes
While they'll not include old glitches in the remake, GF could add features/events that will fill these holes (because some glicthes were actually good or at least interesting). The Mew glitch is something we would miss, so they could make Mew available in a more ordinary way, but still very hard to find and get. I've often thought of Mew as a Pokemon that could be found anywhere, but is extremely rare. Instead of hiding Mew somewhere, which would be too easy in the case you know where it is, having Mew appear as a wild Pokemon of shiny probability would give a challenge (though based on luck). Making Mew somewhat more common than a shiny Pokemon, but having it flee instead of attacking, would also be a difficult way to get it. I want Mew to be a very hard to find, but not impossible to find, Pokemon. There is probably a good way of balancing this difficulty of finding it.

Another glitch is the MissingNo. It's an interesting glitch, but can be harmful for your game. A harmless version could be included in the remake. MissingNo could be part of some event. You wouldn't be able to catch it, but able to see it and maybe investigate it. I don't know if there should be a story round MissingNo or if players should be left to speculate about it themselves. Maybe MissingNo should be left as the glitch it is, but then it is not likely to appear in a 3DS remake (unless there is a glitch, of course).

Region layout
Kantou is not my favourite region. There are few wild areas and mostly Trainers. The Trainers are fun once when you battle them, but then they are useless and the region is full of roads where nothing happens, not even a wild encounter (unless you step in the small patch of grass found in some corner or behind a bush). Adding tall grass is perhaps not an option, since some players find wild encounters annoying. In some Pokemon games this is sometimes solved by making two paths available in some areas; e.g. one with Trainers, one with wild Pokemon.

I still see the possibility of expanding Kantou though, to add more areas with wild Pokemon and exploring, maybe adding a new level in the moon cave, that can be explored freely, maybe later in the game. The dark cave in Johto was interesting, so making a similar cave in Kantou would be nice. It might be difficult to expand the island itself, like adding new landmasses, but adding levels in caves, forests, etc. could be a solution to expanding the region. I didn't like the islands added in FRLG; perhaps they should have been once large island. As I remember, you couldn't swim between them, so travelling between them appeared strange. I'm not so fond of water either; it's too open and flat. Underwater levels are interesting though. Caves/tunnels below water is another way of connectin islands, if islands are necessary. The water routes already in Kantou should be kept of course.
 
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Even though I like to see a RGB remake for the 3DS, I think maybe that a second remake would be repititive. A remake of Yellow would be nice, however. This way, they could make a Kantou remake that is different from FRLG. I never liked FRLG, because the graphics were so bad. I even preferred the original GB graphics over these, because I expected something better on GBA.

Glitches/Changes
While they'll not include old glitches in the remake, GF could add features/events that will fill these holes (because some glicthes were actually good or at least interesting). The Mew glitch is something we would miss, so they could make Mew available in a more ordinary way, but still very hard to find and get. I've often thought of Mew as a Pokemon that could be found anywhere, but is extremely rare. Instead of hiding Mew somewhere, which would be too easy in the case you know where it is, having Mew appear as a wild Pokemon of shiny probability would give a challenge (though based on luck). Making Mew somewhat more common than a shiny Pokemon, but having it flee instead of attacking, would also be a difficult way to get it. I want Mew to be a very hard to find, but not impossible to find, Pokemon. There is probably a good way of balancing this difficulty of finding it.

Another glitch is the MissingNo. It's an interesting glitch, but can be harmful for your game. A harmless version could be included in the remake. MissingNo could be part of some event. You wouldn't be able to catch it, but able to see it and maybe investigate it. I don't know if there should be a story round MissingNo or if players should be left to speculate about it themselves. Maybe MissingNo should be left as the glitch it is, but then it is not likely to appear in a 3DS remake (unless there is a glitch, of course).

Region layout
Kantou is not my favourite region. There are few wild areas and mostly Trainers. The Trainers are fun once when you battle them, but then they are useless and the region is full of roads where nothing happens, not even a wild encounter (unless you step in the small patch of grass found in some corner or behind a bush). Adding tall grass is perhaps not an option, since some players find wild encounters annoying. In some Pokemon games this is sometimes solved by making two paths available in some areas; e.g. one with Trainers, one with wild Pokemon.

I still see the possibility of expanding Kantou though, to add more areas with wild Pokemon and exploring, maybe adding a new level in the moon cave, that can be explored freely, maybe later in the game. The dark cave in Johto was interesting, so making a similar cave in Kantou would be nice. It might be difficult to expand the island itself, like adding new landmasses, but adding levels in caves, forests, etc. could be a solution to expanding the region. I didn't like the islands added in FRLG; perhaps they should have been once large island. As I remember, you couldn't swim between them, so travelling between them appeared strange. I'm not so fond of water either; it's too open and flat. Underwater levels are interesting though. Caves/tunnels below water is another way of connectin islands, if islands are necessary. The water routes already in Kantou should be kept of course.
IMO Rock Tunnel, Diglett, Cerulean and Mt. Moon are enough caves to be honest, although a cave to get to Cinnabar would be really cool, or maybe a tunnel that connects to the Seafoam Islands. And the main idea we're having is that its still a paired Red/Green version, but it includes Yellow elements like the TRio and a Pikachu you meet in Viridian Forest that can follow you, similar to how HG/SS used Crystal elements (poor ORAS).
 
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I don't think we'll ever get any more Kanto remakes, and here's why: GameFreak gave Gen 1 its dues in X/Y. Seriously, if GF was going to remake R/G, Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle wouldn't obtainable, the Venusaurite, Charizardite X/Y, Blastoisite, and the Mewtwoite X/Y (too lazy to bother making sure I spelled that correctly tbh) wouldn't be obtainable, and Mewtwo and the legendary birds wouldn't be obtainable. Imagine if the Griseous Orb was in the original Diamond and Pearl, the DNA Splicers were in the original Black and White, and the Rayquazite was in X and Y. If GF made more Kanto remakes, there would be nothing really new, no incentive for most fans with FR/LG to buy these games, and newer fans probably wouldn't care enough about Kanto to bother.
Plus, I know well enough that if GF announced more remakes this soon after OR/AS (although, you could argue they would wait a while), people would complain about too many remakes.
 
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I don't think we'll ever get any more Kanto remakes, and here's why: GameFreak gave Gen 1 its dues in X/Y. Seriously, if GF was going to remake R/G, Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle wouldn't obtainable, the Venusaurite, Charizardite X/Y, Blastoisite, and the Mewtwoite X/Y (too lazy to bother making sure I spelled that correctly tbh) wouldn't be obtainable, and Mewtwo and the legendary birds wouldn't be obtainable. Imagine if the Griseous Orb was in the original Diamond and Pearl, the DNA Splicers were in the original Black and White, and the Rayquazite was in X and Y. If GF made more Kanto remakes, there would be nothing really new, no incentive for most fans with FR/LG to buy these games, and newer fans probably wouldn't care enough about Kanto to bother.
Plus, I know well enough that if GF announced more remakes this soon after OR/AS (although, you could argue they would wait a while), people would complain about too many remakes.
What about 7th gen? It looks like we're getting another generation on the 3DS.
 
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I don't think we'll ever get any more Kanto remakes, and here's why: GameFreak gave Gen 1 its dues in X/Y. Seriously, if GF was going to remake R/G, Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle wouldn't obtainable, the Venusaurite, Charizardite X/Y, Blastoisite, and the Mewtwoite X/Y (too lazy to bother making sure I spelled that correctly tbh) wouldn't be obtainable, and Mewtwo and the legendary birds wouldn't be obtainable. Imagine if the Griseous Orb was in the original Diamond and Pearl, the DNA Splicers were in the original Black and White, and the Rayquazite was in X and Y. If GF made more Kanto remakes, there would be nothing really new, no incentive for most fans with FR/LG to buy these games, and newer fans probably wouldn't care enough about Kanto to bother.
Plus, I know well enough that if GF announced more remakes this soon after OR/AS (although, you could argue they would wait a while), people would complain about too many remakes.
What about 7th gen? It looks like we're getting another generation on the 3DS.
Agreed. We'll probably get Gen 7 in 2015 or 2016 (depending on whether or not X2/Y2 is a thing), and then Kanto remakes/sequels in 2016 or 2017.
 
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I don't think we'll ever get any more Kanto remakes, and here's why: GameFreak gave Gen 1 its dues in X/Y. Seriously, if GF was going to remake R/G, Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle wouldn't obtainable, the Venusaurite, Charizardite X/Y, Blastoisite, and the Mewtwoite X/Y (too lazy to bother making sure I spelled that correctly tbh) wouldn't be obtainable, and Mewtwo and the legendary birds wouldn't be obtainable. Imagine if the Griseous Orb was in the original Diamond and Pearl, the DNA Splicers were in the original Black and White, and the Rayquazite was in X and Y. If GF made more Kanto remakes, there would be nothing really new, no incentive for most fans with FR/LG to buy these games, and newer fans probably wouldn't care enough about Kanto to bother.
Plus, I know well enough that if GF announced more remakes this soon after OR/AS (although, you could argue they would wait a while), people would complain about too many remakes.
What about 7th gen? It looks like we're getting another generation on the 3DS.
I'm thinking it's more likely GameFreak would be focused on D/P remakes by then, but I remember that everyone thought there would be R/S remakes during the 5th Gen, so you might be right on that one.
However, I'm still not convinced we'll ever get any more Kanto remakes, since the Kanto starters and legendaries were obtainable in X/Y, with their Mega Evolutions no less, and it doesn't make any sense to me for GameFreak to release new games with content that was already available.
 
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I'm thinking it's more likely GameFreak would be focused on D/P remakes by then, but I remember that everyone thought there would be R/S remakes during the 5th Gen, so you might be right on that one.
Yeah, they're probably not going to remake DP until the next handheld releases, which is probably 8th gen. That leaves them wide open for a Kanto remake.

However, I'm still not convinced we'll ever get any more Kanto remakes, since the Kanto starters and legendaries were obtainable in X/Y, with their Mega Evolutions no less, and it doesn't make any sense to me for GameFreak to release new games with content that was already available.
Once we get to 7th gen it's not going to matter. We'll want a way to get the Kanto Pokemon, legendaries, and Mega Stones all over again without having to rely on transferring from 6th gen.
 
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