Rath
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Someone pointed this out a few days ago, but I bet that "the powers that be" will still remain in denial and will refuse to allow an official page for the Spaceworld 1997 demo to be created on the main wiki. Cool video though.
Yup, that's the video I posted. I'm also wondering too why they don't allow an article on it when the leak has a lot of evidence in its favor.
Okay, but how do you fake things that were not known at the time? The green Ledyba and the Pokédex layout match the leak perfectly and there's no way someone knew about them beforehand.A lot of evidence, sure, but no actual confirmation. We pride ourselves in having 100% accurate articles and entries. The Spaceworld demo, as much as I personally believe it's authentic, cannot be verified as true. Like the video, there are things that seem to add up and point to the demo being a real demo, but it could also be argued that the demo was made to replicate known beta ideas for Pokemon GS.
Bottom line, it could be fake. It's probably real, but it could be fake. Bulbapedia cannot make an article on something so questionable without calling into doubt every other article.
You don’t have to claim it’s the real deal though. Last I checked, Bulbapedia has an article on the PokéGod playground rumor phenomenon, all of which people believed to be real back in the old days back when Red and Blue were in the United States. While these rumors were ultimately nothing but playground rumors, it was still widespread enough amongst the fandom’s history to have an article dedicated to it. If we have an article about widespread rumors, then I’m not sure why the Spaceworld demo is such a problem.A lot of evidence, sure, but no actual confirmation. We pride ourselves in having 100% accurate articles and entries. The Spaceworld demo, as much as I personally believe it's authentic, cannot be verified as true. Like the video, there are things that seem to add up and point to the demo being a real demo, but it could also be argued that the demo was made to replicate known beta ideas for Pokemon GS.
Bottom line, it could be fake. It's probably real, but it could be fake. Bulbapedia cannot make an article on something so questionable without calling into doubt every other article.
A lot of evidence, sure, but no actual confirmation. We pride ourselves in having 100% accurate articles and entries. The Spaceworld demo, as much as I personally believe it's authentic, cannot be verified as true. Like the video, there are things that seem to add up and point to the demo being a real demo, but it could also be argued that the demo was made to replicate known beta ideas for Pokemon GS.
Bottom line, it could be fake. It's probably real, but it could be fake. Bulbapedia cannot make an article on something so questionable without calling into doubt every other article.
FWIW, I think one of the biggest controversies is the whole hullabaloo on Green/Leaf's talk page that's been going on for several years.
Space World is a sensitive subject matter especially when it comes to legality and stuff, like yes we have (improperly named) beta articles but for the most part that's information that could be gleaned from the final games code and prerelease material. Hosting information on a completely unseen and unreleased version of the game is a different matter. I don't believe there is any doubt that it is really left in the staff though I may be mistaken. What I can say is I highly doubt the information we put up would be as exhaustive as that found on The Cutting Room Floor (which I'd barely call a no-name site, I'd argue it's fairly well known and specifically caters to this sort of stuff).
As for the other language wiki, I presume you're talking about Pokewiki who have done what I believe is a fantastic job. When Bulbapedia's page is made I'd like it to be seen based off that, it's clear, concise and not overly laden with wholely irrelevant too specific information. However, we don't quite have a page in userspace up to that standard yet. I've personally started work on it in my user page as has other users, but personally, I have much more stuff to focus on Bulbapedia wise (as well as real-life) then the Space World demo.