The Pokémon Legends: Arceus Datamine thread!

Articfoxgamez · Jan 20, 2022

Has anyone gotten around to uploading all the music somewhere yet? I assume not because thats harder to go about. Can't exactly post it to youtube without nintendo just taking it down,

takoyaki · Jan 20, 2022

Articfoxgamez said:
Has anyone gotten around to uploading all the music somewhere yet? I assume not because thats harder to go about. Can't exactly post it to youtube without nintendo just taking it down,

I can get it in encrypted form! If anyone here knows of any programs to decrypt the music files I'll make them avaliable, likely through DM because I don't want Bulbaforums to get in trouble.

ShionFate · Jan 20, 2022

I'm just interested in learning how the stats work in this game, and maybe if we can get movesets pulled?

Articfoxgamez · Jan 20, 2022

I wanna know if Hisuian Goodras BST matches the Garchomp BST in this game, because it would be an interesting twist if Hisuian Goodra ended up like, not meeting the Psuedo-legendary requirements. (Speaking of, hope the bulbapedia people have fun figuring out how to apply those to the new stat system. Do we go off of the BST of garchomp in the game for the equivalent to the 600 bst or what)

Articfoxgamez · Jan 20, 2022

So there's only 16 Arceus renders (Ignoring Shiny forms) right? Meaning I assume Legend plate Arceus just uses the normal type model? If so that feels like a missed opportunity to have it be the glowing form we see at the start of the game.

Poke Dragon · Jan 20, 2022

Apparently, the new Dialga and Palkia forms are called "Lord" forms. Could this actually be reverse Kyurem/Necrozma/Calyrex, where instead of Arceus being in control, Dialga and Palkia are the ones in control?

takoyaki · Jan 20, 2022

Poke Dragon said:
Apparently, the new Dialga and Palkia forms are called "Lord" forms. Could this actually be reverse Kyurem/Necrozma/Calyrex, where instead of Arceus being in control, Dialga and Palkia are the ones in control?

Interesting. Feel free to take a look in the script for this! If this turns out to be true I'll add this in!

Spurs1819 · Jan 20, 2022

I thought Calyrex rider forms were the laziest in the franchise, but when you put them up with the fusion forms, there's no contest. I'd take lazy one Pokemon sitting on another all day over the overdesigned monstrosities.

So far only adaptations that have worked have been Primal Kyogre, Groudon, Mega Rayquaza and the Galarian bird variants. Mega Mewtwo was terrible as well.

TheElderKing · Jan 20, 2022

Base stats for new forms and mons.

I managed to extract the Pokémon data table; trying to get stats

Unlike previous games that inherited a fixed width table, PLA's seems to be in flatbuffers, which is an annoying format to datamine. For the...

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badwolf1234 · Jan 20, 2022

Poke Dragon said:
Apparently, the new Dialga and Palkia forms are called "Lord" forms. Could this actually be reverse Kyurem/Necrozma/Calyrex, where instead of Arceus being in control, Dialga and Palkia are the ones in control?

From what I gather in the script it is just an alternate form not a fusion since you only need the stones to change form like how giratina changes forms

badwolf1234 · Jan 20, 2022

Abilities for the New Pokemon just like LGPE they are encoded even though they are not in game

ABILITIES FOR NEW POKÉMON

Wyrdeer: Intimidate / Frisk // Sap Sipper
Kleavor: Swarm / Sheer Force // Steadfast
Ursaluna: Guts / Bulletproof // Unnerve
Basculegion: Rattled / Adaptability // Mold Breaker
Sneasler: Pressure // Poison Touch
Overqwil: Poison Point / Swift Swim // Intimidate
Enamorus (Incarnate): Healer // Contrary
Enamorus (Therian): Overcoat
Growlithe and Arcanine - Intimidate / Flash Fire // Justified
Voltorb and Electrode - Soundproof / Static // Aftermath
Typhlosion - Blaze // Flash Fire
Qwilfish - Poison Point / Swift Swim // Intimidate
Sneasel - Inner Focus / Keen Eye // Poison Touch
Dialga-Lord and Palkia-Lord - Pressure // Telepathy
Samurott - Torrent // Shell Armor
Lilligant - Chlorophyll / Hustle // Leaf Guard
Basculin (White Stripe) - same as Basculegion: Rattled / Adaptability // Mold Breaker
Zorua and Zoroark: Illusion
Braviary: Keen Eye / Sheer Force // Defiant
Sliggoo and Goodra: Sap Sipper / Overcoat // Gooey
Avalugg: Strong Jaw / Ice Body // Sturdy
Decidueye: Overgrow // Long Reach

Alola · Jan 20, 2022

TheElderKing said:
Base stats for new forms and mons.

I managed to extract the Pokémon data table; trying to get stats

Unlike previous games that inherited a fixed width table, PLA's seems to be in flatbuffers, which is an annoying format to datamine. For the...

old.reddit.com

For people who want to compare between Hisuian and non-Hisuian forms:

TYPHLOSION: 78/84/78/109/85/100 (534)

H-TYPHLOSION: 73/84/78/119/85/95 (534)

-5 HP, +10 SATK, -5 SPEED

_____

SAMUROTT: 95/100/85/108/70/70 (528)

H-SAMUROTT: 90/108/80/100/65/85 (528)

-5 HP, +8 ATK, -5 DEF, -8 SATK, -5 SDEF, +15 SPEED

______

DECIDUEYE: 78/107/75/100/100/70 (530)

H-DECIDUEYE: 88/112/80/95/95/60 (530)

+10 HP, +5 ATK, +5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -10 SPEED (Why did they make my baby even slower? Really Game Freak?!)

_______

GROWLITHE: 55/70/45/70/50/60 (350)

H-GROWLITHE: 60/75/45/65/50/55 (350)

+5 HP, +5 ATK ,-5 SATK, -5 SPEED

ARCANINE: 90/110/80/100/80/95 (555

H-ARCANINE: 95/115/80/95/80/90 (555)

+ 5 HP, +5 ATK, -5 SATK, -5 SPEED

_________

LILLIGANT: 70/60/75/110/75/90 (480)

H-LILLIGANT: 70/105/75/50/75/105 (480)

+45 ATK, -60 SATK, +15 SPEED

__________

ZORUA: 40/65/40/80/40/65 (330)

H-ZORUA: 35/60/40/85/40/70 (330)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

ZOROARK: 60/105/60/120/60/105 (510)

H-ZOROARK: 55/100/60/125/60/110 (510)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

____________

SLIGGOO: 68/75/53/83/113/60 (452)

H-SLIGGOO: 58/75/83/83/113/40 (452)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED

GOODRA: 90/100/70/110/150/80 (600)

H-GOODRA: 80/100/100/110/150/60 (600)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED (He's a defensive powerhouse now and I am HERE FOR IT)

____________

BRAVIARY: 100/123/75/57/75/80 (510)

H-BRAVIARY: 110/83/70/112/70/65 (510)

+10 HP, -40 ATK, -5 DEF, +55 SATK, -5 SDEF, -15 SPEED

____________

AVALUGG: 95/117/184/44/46/28 (514)

H-AVALUGG: 95/127/184/34/36/38 (514)

+10 ATK, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +10 SPEED

____________

DIALGA: 100/120/120/150/100/90 (680)

H-DIALGA: 100/100/120/150/120/90 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SDEF

PALKIA: 90/120/100/150/120/100 (680)

H-PALKIA: 90/100/100/150/120/120 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SPEED

And then new evolutions with prior evolutionary stages:

URSARING: 90/130/75/75/75/55 (500)

URSALUNA: 130/140/105/45/80/50 (550)

+40 HP, +10 ATK, +30 DEF, -30 SATK, +5 SDEF, -5 SPEED

_________

STANTLER: 73/95/62/85/65/85 (465)

WYRDEER: 103/105/72/105/75/65 (525)

+30 HP, +10 ATK, +10 DEF, +20 SATK, +10 SDEF, -20 SPEED

_________

H-QWILFISH: 65/95/85/55/55/85 (440)

OVERQWIL: 85/115/95/65/65/85 (510)

+20 HP, +20 ATK, +10 DEF, +10 SATK, +10 SDEF

_________

SCIZOR: 70/130/100/55/80/65 (500)

KLEAVOR: 70/135/95/45/70/85 (500)

+5 ATK, -5 DEF, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +20 SPEED (Scizor has been dethroned, lol)

_________

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

M-BASCULEGION: 120/112/65/80/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +30 ATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

F-BASCULEGION: 120/92/65/100/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +20 SATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

_________

WEAVILE: 70/120/65/45/85/125 (510)

SNEASLER: 80/130/60/40/80/120 (510)

+10 HP, +10 ATK, -5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -5 SPEED (Remember, Sneasler is Fighting/Poison rather than Dark/Ice)

I'm quite happy with H-Goodra's typing and stat spread. EDIT: Actually, I'm really happy with Goodra's new stat spread - they made my favorite Dragon and pseudo-legendary even better, its Steel typing grants it 9 resistances as well as an immunity (with only two weaknesses), and gave the beast Overcoat.

techitisJ · Jan 20, 2022

Not sure if this was posted already but this channel seems to have posted all the music for Legends

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youtu.be

badwolf1234 · Jan 20, 2022

Alola said:
For people who want to compare between Hisuian and non-Hisuian forms:

TYPHLOSION: 78/84/78/109/85/100 (534)

H-TYPHLOSION: 73/84/78/119/85/95 (534)

-5 HP, +10 SATK, -5 SPEED

_____

SAMUROTT: 95/100/85/108/70/70 (528)

H-SAMUROTT: 90/108/80/100/65/85 (528)

-5 HP, +8 ATK, -5 DEF, -8 SATK, -5 SDEF, +15 SPEED

______

DECIDUEYE: 78/107/75/100/100/70 (530)

H-DECIDUEYE: 88/112/80/95/95/60 (530)

+10 HP, +5 ATK, +5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -10 SPEED (Why did they make my baby even slower? Really Game Freak?!)

_______

GROWLITHE: 55/70/45/70/50/60 (350)

H-GROWLITHE: 60/75/45/65/50/55 (350)

+5 HP, +5 ATK ,-5 SATK, -5 SPEED

ARCANINE: 90/110/80/100/80/95 (555

H-ARCANINE: 95/115/80/95/80/90 (555)

+ 5 HP, +5 ATK, -5 SATK, -5 SPEED

_________

LILLIGANT: 70/60/75/110/75/90 (480)

H-LILLIGANT: 70/105/75/50/75/105 (480)

+45 ATK, -60 SATK, +15 SPEED

__________

ZORUA: 40/65/40/80/40/65 (330)

H-ZORUA: 35/60/40/85/40/70 (330)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

ZOROARK: 60/105/60/120/60/105 (510)

H-ZOROARK: 55/100/60/125/60/110 (510)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

____________

SLIGGOO: 68/75/53/83/113/60 (452)

H-SLIGGOO: 58/75/83/83/113/40 (452)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED

GOODRA: 90/100/70/110/150/80 (600)

H-GOODRA: 80/100/100/110/150/60 (600)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED (He's a defensive powerhouse now and I am HERE FOR IT)

____________

BRAVIARY: 100/123/75/57/75/80 (510)

H-BRAVIARY: 110/83/70/112/70/65 (510)

+10 HP, -40 ATK, -5 DEF, +55 SATK, -5 SDEF, -15 SPEED

____________

AVALUGG: 95/117/184/44/46/28 (514)

H-AVALUGG: 95/127/184/34/36/38 (514)

+10 ATK, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +10 SPEED

____________

DIALGA: 100/120/120/150/100/90 (680)

H-DIALGA: 100/100/120/150/120/90 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SDEF

PALKIA: 90/120/100/150/120/100 (680)

H-PALKIA: 90/100/100/150/120/120 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SPEED

And then new evolutions with prior evolutionary stages:

URSARING: 90/130/75/75/75/55 (500)

URSALUNA: 130/140/105/45/80/50 (550)

+40 HP, +10 ATK, +30 DEF, -30 SATK, +5 SDEF, -5 SPEED

_________

STANTLER: 73/95/62/85/65/85 (465)

WYRDEER: 103/105/72/105/75/65 (525)

+30 HP, +10 ATK, +10 DEF, +20 SATK, +10 SDEF, -20 SPEED

_________

H-QWILFISH: 65/95/85/55/55/85 (440)

OVERQWIL: 85/115/95/65/65/85 (510)

+20 HP, +20 ATK, +10 DEF, +10 SATK, +10 SDEF

_________

SCIZOR: 70/130/100/55/80/65 (500)

KLEAVOR: 70/135/95/45/70/85 (500)

+5 ATK, -5 DEF, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +20 SPEED (Scizor has been dethroned, lol)

_________

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

M-BASCULEGION: 120/112/65/80/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +30 ATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

F-BASCULEGION: 120/92/65/100/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +20 SATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

_________

WEAVILE: 70/120/65/45/85/125 (510)

SNEASLER: 80/130/60/40/80/120 (510)

+10 HP, +10 ATK, -5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -5 SPEED (Remember, Sneasler is Fighting/Poison rather than Dark/Ice)

I'm quite happy with H-Goodra's typing and stat spread.

WTH ANOTHER SCYTHER EVO WITHOUT STATS INCREASE?! LOL

TheElderKing · Jan 20, 2022

badwolf1234 said:
WTH ANOTHER SCYTHER EVO WITHOUT STATS INCREASE?! LOL

Heh, it makes sense to me, if Scizor and Scyther are the same stat wise, to have Kleavor the same…if they plan to bring him back in the future.

キットちゃん · Jan 20, 2022

Overkwil reminds me of Kirby

Dizzard · Jan 20, 2022

Is Overqwil meant to be a play on "overkill"? It seems like it but I'm not certain.

There must be something about the Hisuian weather that brings out the edge in Pokemon.

Blue_Cheshire · Jan 20, 2022

Alola said:
For people who want to compare between Hisuian and non-Hisuian forms:

TYPHLOSION: 78/84/78/109/85/100 (534)

H-TYPHLOSION: 73/84/78/119/85/95 (534)

-5 HP, +10 SATK, -5 SPEED

_____

SAMUROTT: 95/100/85/108/70/70 (528)

H-SAMUROTT: 90/108/80/100/65/85 (528)

-5 HP, +8 ATK, -5 DEF, -8 SATK, -5 SDEF, +15 SPEED

______

DECIDUEYE: 78/107/75/100/100/70 (530)

H-DECIDUEYE: 88/112/80/95/95/60 (530)

+10 HP, +5 ATK, +5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -10 SPEED (Why did they make my baby even slower? Really Game Freak?!)

_______

GROWLITHE: 55/70/45/70/50/60 (350)

H-GROWLITHE: 60/75/45/65/50/55 (350)

+5 HP, +5 ATK ,-5 SATK, -5 SPEED

ARCANINE: 90/110/80/100/80/95 (555

H-ARCANINE: 95/115/80/95/80/90 (555)

+ 5 HP, +5 ATK, -5 SATK, -5 SPEED

_________

LILLIGANT: 70/60/75/110/75/90 (480)

H-LILLIGANT: 70/105/75/50/75/105 (480)

+45 ATK, -60 SATK, +15 SPEED

__________

ZORUA: 40/65/40/80/40/65 (330)

H-ZORUA: 35/60/40/85/40/70 (330)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

ZOROARK: 60/105/60/120/60/105 (510)

H-ZOROARK: 55/100/60/125/60/110 (510)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

____________

SLIGGOO: 68/75/53/83/113/60 (452)

H-SLIGGOO: 58/75/83/83/113/40 (452)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED

GOODRA: 90/100/70/110/150/80 (600)

H-GOODRA: 80/100/100/110/150/60 (600)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED (He's a defensive powerhouse now and I am HERE FOR IT)

____________

BRAVIARY: 100/123/75/57/75/80 (510)

H-BRAVIARY: 110/83/70/112/70/65 (510)

+10 HP, -40 ATK, -5 DEF, +55 SATK, -5 SDEF, -15 SPEED

____________

AVALUGG: 95/117/184/44/46/28 (514)

H-AVALUGG: 95/127/184/34/36/38 (514)

+10 ATK, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +10 SPEED

____________

DIALGA: 100/120/120/150/100/90 (680)

H-DIALGA: 100/100/120/150/120/90 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SDEF

PALKIA: 90/120/100/150/120/100 (680)

H-PALKIA: 90/100/100/150/120/120 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SPEED

And then new evolutions with prior evolutionary stages:

URSARING: 90/130/75/75/75/55 (500)

URSALUNA: 130/140/105/45/80/50 (550)

+40 HP, +10 ATK, +30 DEF, -30 SATK, +5 SDEF, -5 SPEED

_________

STANTLER: 73/95/62/85/65/85 (465)

WYRDEER: 103/105/72/105/75/65 (525)

+30 HP, +10 ATK, +10 DEF, +20 SATK, +10 SDEF, -20 SPEED

_________

H-QWILFISH: 65/95/85/55/55/85 (440)

OVERQWIL: 85/115/95/65/65/85 (510)

+20 HP, +20 ATK, +10 DEF, +10 SATK, +10 SDEF

_________

SCIZOR: 70/130/100/55/80/65 (500)

KLEAVOR: 70/135/95/45/70/85 (500)

+5 ATK, -5 DEF, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +20 SPEED (Scizor has been dethroned, lol)

_________

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

M-BASCULEGION: 120/112/65/80/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +30 ATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

F-BASCULEGION: 120/92/65/100/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +20 SATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

_________

WEAVILE: 70/120/65/45/85/125 (510)

SNEASLER: 80/130/60/40/80/120 (510)

+10 HP, +10 ATK, -5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -5 SPEED (Remember, Sneasler is Fighting/Poison rather than Dark/Ice)

I'm quite happy with H-Goodra's typing and stat spread. EDIT: Actually, I'm really happy with Goodra's new stat spread - they made my favorite Dragon and pseudo-legendary even better, its Steel typing grants it 9 resistances as well as an immunity (with only two weaknesses), and gave the beast Overcoat.

I'm sad they made decidueye even slower, but I'm really happy with Liligants stats
I think its gonna overshadow Decidueye probably xD

Juliko · Jan 20, 2022

Does anyone have the entire Legends PokeDex? I know the GoogleDrive doc is around, but I can't access it.

Poke Dragon · Jan 20, 2022

badwolf1234 said:
From what I gather in the script it is just an alternate form not a fusion since you only need the stones to change form like how giratina changes forms

I hope that means that the Adamant and Lustrous Orbs are repurposed to be like the Griseous Orb for future Pokemon games, now that these forms are added. I'm also kind of happy it's not a fusion this time because it would be impossible to have both Dialga and Palkia in those forms if they were actually fusions.

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