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The Pokémon Legends: Arceus Datamine thread!

Apparently, the new Dialga and Palkia forms are called "Lord" forms. Could this actually be reverse Kyurem/Necrozma/Calyrex, where instead of Arceus being in control, Dialga and Palkia are the ones in control?
From what I gather in the script it is just an alternate form not a fusion since you only need the stones to change form like how giratina changes forms
 
Abilities for the New Pokemon just like LGPE they are encoded even though they are not in game

ABILITIES FOR NEW POKÉMON

Wyrdeer: Intimidate / Frisk // Sap Sipper
Kleavor: Swarm / Sheer Force // Steadfast
Ursaluna: Guts / Bulletproof // Unnerve
Basculegion: Rattled / Adaptability // Mold Breaker
Sneasler: Pressure // Poison Touch
Overqwil: Poison Point / Swift Swim // Intimidate
Enamorus (Incarnate): Healer // Contrary
Enamorus (Therian): Overcoat
Growlithe and Arcanine - Intimidate / Flash Fire // Justified
Voltorb and Electrode - Soundproof / Static // Aftermath
Typhlosion - Blaze // Flash Fire
Qwilfish - Poison Point / Swift Swim // Intimidate
Sneasel - Inner Focus / Keen Eye // Poison Touch
Dialga-Lord and Palkia-Lord - Pressure // Telepathy
Samurott - Torrent // Shell Armor
Lilligant - Chlorophyll / Hustle // Leaf Guard
Basculin (White Stripe) - same as Basculegion: Rattled / Adaptability // Mold Breaker
Zorua and Zoroark: Illusion
Braviary: Keen Eye / Sheer Force // Defiant
Sliggoo and Goodra: Sap Sipper / Overcoat // Gooey
Avalugg: Strong Jaw / Ice Body // Sturdy
Decidueye: Overgrow // Long Reach
 
Base stats for new forms and mons.

For people who want to compare between Hisuian and non-Hisuian forms:


TYPHLOSION: 78/84/78/109/85/100 (534)

H-TYPHLOSION: 73/84/78/119/85/95 (534)

-5 HP, +10 SATK, -5 SPEED

_____

SAMUROTT: 95/100/85/108/70/70 (528)

H-SAMUROTT: 90/108/80/100/65/85 (528)

-5 HP, +8 ATK, -5 DEF, -8 SATK, -5 SDEF, +15 SPEED

______

DECIDUEYE: 78/107/75/100/100/70 (530)

H-DECIDUEYE: 88/112/80/95/95/60 (530)

+10 HP, +5 ATK, +5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -10 SPEED (Why did they make my baby even slower? Really Game Freak?!)

_______

GROWLITHE: 55/70/45/70/50/60 (350)

H-GROWLITHE: 60/75/45/65/50/55 (350)

+5 HP, +5 ATK ,-5 SATK, -5 SPEED

ARCANINE: 90/110/80/100/80/95 (555

H-ARCANINE: 95/115/80/95/80/90 (555)

+ 5 HP, +5 ATK, -5 SATK, -5 SPEED

_________

LILLIGANT: 70/60/75/110/75/90 (480)

H-LILLIGANT: 70/105/75/50/75/105 (480)

+45 ATK, -60 SATK, +15 SPEED

__________

ZORUA: 40/65/40/80/40/65 (330)

H-ZORUA: 35/60/40/85/40/70 (330)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

ZOROARK: 60/105/60/120/60/105 (510)

H-ZOROARK: 55/100/60/125/60/110 (510)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

____________

SLIGGOO: 68/75/53/83/113/60 (452)

H-SLIGGOO: 58/75/83/83/113/40 (452)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED

GOODRA: 90/100/70/110/150/80 (600)

H-GOODRA: 80/100/100/110/150/60 (600)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED (He's a defensive powerhouse now and I am HERE FOR IT)

____________

BRAVIARY: 100/123/75/57/75/80 (510)

H-BRAVIARY: 110/83/70/112/70/65 (510)

+10 HP, -40 ATK, -5 DEF, +55 SATK, -5 SDEF, -15 SPEED

____________

AVALUGG: 95/117/184/44/46/28 (514)

H-AVALUGG: 95/127/184/34/36/38 (514)

+10 ATK, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +10 SPEED

____________

DIALGA: 100/120/120/150/100/90 (680)

H-DIALGA: 100/100/120/150/120/90 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SDEF

PALKIA: 90/120/100/150/120/100 (680)

H-PALKIA: 90/100/100/150/120/120 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SPEED

And then new evolutions with prior evolutionary stages:

URSARING: 90/130/75/75/75/55 (500)

URSALUNA: 130/140/105/45/80/50 (550)

+40 HP, +10 ATK, +30 DEF, -30 SATK, +5 SDEF, -5 SPEED

_________

STANTLER: 73/95/62/85/65/85 (465)

WYRDEER: 103/105/72/105/75/65 (525)

+30 HP, +10 ATK, +10 DEF, +20 SATK, +10 SDEF, -20 SPEED

_________

H-QWILFISH: 65/95/85/55/55/85 (440)

OVERQWIL: 85/115/95/65/65/85 (510)

+20 HP, +20 ATK, +10 DEF, +10 SATK, +10 SDEF

_________

SCIZOR: 70/130/100/55/80/65 (500)

KLEAVOR: 70/135/95/45/70/85 (500)

+5 ATK, -5 DEF, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +20 SPEED (Scizor has been dethroned, lol)

_________

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

M-BASCULEGION: 120/112/65/80/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +30 ATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

F-BASCULEGION: 120/92/65/100/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +20 SATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

_________

WEAVILE: 70/120/65/45/85/125 (510)

SNEASLER: 80/130/60/40/80/120 (510)

+10 HP, +10 ATK, -5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -5 SPEED (Remember, Sneasler is Fighting/Poison rather than Dark/Ice)

I'm quite happy with H-Goodra's typing and stat spread. EDIT: Actually, I'm really happy with Goodra's new stat spread - they made my favorite Dragon and pseudo-legendary even better, its Steel typing grants it 9 resistances as well as an immunity (with only two weaknesses), and gave the beast Overcoat.
 
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For people who want to compare between Hisuian and non-Hisuian forms:


TYPHLOSION: 78/84/78/109/85/100 (534)

H-TYPHLOSION: 73/84/78/119/85/95 (534)

-5 HP, +10 SATK, -5 SPEED

_____

SAMUROTT: 95/100/85/108/70/70 (528)

H-SAMUROTT: 90/108/80/100/65/85 (528)

-5 HP, +8 ATK, -5 DEF, -8 SATK, -5 SDEF, +15 SPEED

______

DECIDUEYE: 78/107/75/100/100/70 (530)

H-DECIDUEYE: 88/112/80/95/95/60 (530)

+10 HP, +5 ATK, +5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -10 SPEED (Why did they make my baby even slower? Really Game Freak?!)

_______

GROWLITHE: 55/70/45/70/50/60 (350)

H-GROWLITHE: 60/75/45/65/50/55 (350)

+5 HP, +5 ATK ,-5 SATK, -5 SPEED

ARCANINE: 90/110/80/100/80/95 (555

H-ARCANINE: 95/115/80/95/80/90 (555)

+ 5 HP, +5 ATK, -5 SATK, -5 SPEED

_________

LILLIGANT: 70/60/75/110/75/90 (480)

H-LILLIGANT: 70/105/75/50/75/105 (480)

+45 ATK, -60 SATK, +15 SPEED

__________

ZORUA: 40/65/40/80/40/65 (330)

H-ZORUA: 35/60/40/85/40/70 (330)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

ZOROARK: 60/105/60/120/60/105 (510)

H-ZOROARK: 55/100/60/125/60/110 (510)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

____________

SLIGGOO: 68/75/53/83/113/60 (452)

H-SLIGGOO: 58/75/83/83/113/40 (452)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED

GOODRA: 90/100/70/110/150/80 (600)

H-GOODRA: 80/100/100/110/150/60 (600)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED (He's a defensive powerhouse now and I am HERE FOR IT)

____________

BRAVIARY: 100/123/75/57/75/80 (510)

H-BRAVIARY: 110/83/70/112/70/65 (510)

+10 HP, -40 ATK, -5 DEF, +55 SATK, -5 SDEF, -15 SPEED

____________

AVALUGG: 95/117/184/44/46/28 (514)

H-AVALUGG: 95/127/184/34/36/38 (514)

+10 ATK, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +10 SPEED

____________

DIALGA: 100/120/120/150/100/90 (680)

H-DIALGA: 100/100/120/150/120/90 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SDEF

PALKIA: 90/120/100/150/120/100 (680)

H-PALKIA: 90/100/100/150/120/120 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SPEED

And then new evolutions with prior evolutionary stages:

URSARING: 90/130/75/75/75/55 (500)

URSALUNA: 130/140/105/45/80/50 (550)

+40 HP, +10 ATK, +30 DEF, -30 SATK, +5 SDEF, -5 SPEED

_________

STANTLER: 73/95/62/85/65/85 (465)

WYRDEER: 103/105/72/105/75/65 (525)

+30 HP, +10 ATK, +10 DEF, +20 SATK, +10 SDEF, -20 SPEED

_________

H-QWILFISH: 65/95/85/55/55/85 (440)

OVERQWIL: 85/115/95/65/65/85 (510)

+20 HP, +20 ATK, +10 DEF, +10 SATK, +10 SDEF

_________

SCIZOR: 70/130/100/55/80/65 (500)

KLEAVOR: 70/135/95/45/70/85 (500)

+5 ATK, -5 DEF, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +20 SPEED (Scizor has been dethroned, lol)

_________

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

M-BASCULEGION: 120/112/65/80/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +30 ATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

F-BASCULEGION: 120/92/65/100/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +20 SATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

_________

WEAVILE: 70/120/65/45/85/125 (510)

SNEASLER: 80/130/60/40/80/120 (510)

+10 HP, +10 ATK, -5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -5 SPEED (Remember, Sneasler is Fighting/Poison rather than Dark/Ice)

I'm quite happy with H-Goodra's typing and stat spread.
WTH ANOTHER SCYTHER EVO WITHOUT STATS INCREASE?! LOL
 
Overkwil reminds me of Kirby
Kirby64Needle.gif
 
For people who want to compare between Hisuian and non-Hisuian forms:


TYPHLOSION: 78/84/78/109/85/100 (534)

H-TYPHLOSION: 73/84/78/119/85/95 (534)

-5 HP, +10 SATK, -5 SPEED

_____

SAMUROTT: 95/100/85/108/70/70 (528)

H-SAMUROTT: 90/108/80/100/65/85 (528)

-5 HP, +8 ATK, -5 DEF, -8 SATK, -5 SDEF, +15 SPEED

______

DECIDUEYE: 78/107/75/100/100/70 (530)

H-DECIDUEYE: 88/112/80/95/95/60 (530)

+10 HP, +5 ATK, +5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -10 SPEED (Why did they make my baby even slower? Really Game Freak?!)

_______

GROWLITHE: 55/70/45/70/50/60 (350)

H-GROWLITHE: 60/75/45/65/50/55 (350)

+5 HP, +5 ATK ,-5 SATK, -5 SPEED

ARCANINE: 90/110/80/100/80/95 (555

H-ARCANINE: 95/115/80/95/80/90 (555)

+ 5 HP, +5 ATK, -5 SATK, -5 SPEED

_________

LILLIGANT: 70/60/75/110/75/90 (480)

H-LILLIGANT: 70/105/75/50/75/105 (480)

+45 ATK, -60 SATK, +15 SPEED

__________

ZORUA: 40/65/40/80/40/65 (330)

H-ZORUA: 35/60/40/85/40/70 (330)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

ZOROARK: 60/105/60/120/60/105 (510)

H-ZOROARK: 55/100/60/125/60/110 (510)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

____________

SLIGGOO: 68/75/53/83/113/60 (452)

H-SLIGGOO: 58/75/83/83/113/40 (452)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED

GOODRA: 90/100/70/110/150/80 (600)

H-GOODRA: 80/100/100/110/150/60 (600)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED (He's a defensive powerhouse now and I am HERE FOR IT)

____________

BRAVIARY: 100/123/75/57/75/80 (510)

H-BRAVIARY: 110/83/70/112/70/65 (510)

+10 HP, -40 ATK, -5 DEF, +55 SATK, -5 SDEF, -15 SPEED

____________

AVALUGG: 95/117/184/44/46/28 (514)

H-AVALUGG: 95/127/184/34/36/38 (514)

+10 ATK, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +10 SPEED

____________

DIALGA: 100/120/120/150/100/90 (680)

H-DIALGA: 100/100/120/150/120/90 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SDEF

PALKIA: 90/120/100/150/120/100 (680)

H-PALKIA: 90/100/100/150/120/120 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SPEED

And then new evolutions with prior evolutionary stages:

URSARING: 90/130/75/75/75/55 (500)

URSALUNA: 130/140/105/45/80/50 (550)

+40 HP, +10 ATK, +30 DEF, -30 SATK, +5 SDEF, -5 SPEED

_________

STANTLER: 73/95/62/85/65/85 (465)

WYRDEER: 103/105/72/105/75/65 (525)

+30 HP, +10 ATK, +10 DEF, +20 SATK, +10 SDEF, -20 SPEED

_________

H-QWILFISH: 65/95/85/55/55/85 (440)

OVERQWIL: 85/115/95/65/65/85 (510)

+20 HP, +20 ATK, +10 DEF, +10 SATK, +10 SDEF

_________

SCIZOR: 70/130/100/55/80/65 (500)

KLEAVOR: 70/135/95/45/70/85 (500)

+5 ATK, -5 DEF, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +20 SPEED (Scizor has been dethroned, lol)

_________

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

M-BASCULEGION: 120/112/65/80/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +30 ATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

F-BASCULEGION: 120/92/65/100/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +20 SATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

_________

WEAVILE: 70/120/65/45/85/125 (510)

SNEASLER: 80/130/60/40/80/120 (510)

+10 HP, +10 ATK, -5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -5 SPEED (Remember, Sneasler is Fighting/Poison rather than Dark/Ice)

I'm quite happy with H-Goodra's typing and stat spread. EDIT: Actually, I'm really happy with Goodra's new stat spread - they made my favorite Dragon and pseudo-legendary even better, its Steel typing grants it 9 resistances as well as an immunity (with only two weaknesses), and gave the beast Overcoat.
I'm sad they made decidueye even slower, but I'm really happy with Liligants stats
I think its gonna overshadow Decidueye probably xD
 
From what I gather in the script it is just an alternate form not a fusion since you only need the stones to change form like how giratina changes forms
I hope that means that the Adamant and Lustrous Orbs are repurposed to be like the Griseous Orb for future Pokemon games, now that these forms are added. I'm also kind of happy it's not a fusion this time because it would be impossible to have both Dialga and Palkia in those forms if they were actually fusions.
 
I wonder if the datamine can tell if its gonna be a day 1 patch for this game.

Or is the GB decrease from the Eshop explained? Still weird it went from 12gb down to 6GB

Didnt BDSP do this to hide things from getting leaked before the release date?
 
I hope that means that the Adamant and Lustrous Orbs are repurposed to be like the Griseous Orb for future Pokemon games, now that these forms are added. I'm also kind of happy it's not a fusion this time because it would be impossible to have both Dialga and Palkia in those forms if they were actually fusions.
No, there are different/new items made for it.
 
I wonder if the datamine can tell if its gonna be a day 1 patch for this game.

Or is the GB decrease from the Eshop explained? Still weird it went from 12gb down to 6GB

Didnt BDSP do this to hide things from getting leaked before the release date?
Unlike BDSP to my knowledge theres no large game mechanics or locations obviously missing so gamefreak might have just gotten help with compression.
 
No, there are different/new items made for it.
I know there are new items, but it's likely that these new items might not be appearing in Pokemon games after Legends: Arceus, which repurposing the Adamant and Lustrous Orbs to fully act like the Griseous Orb is the perfect alternative in the scenario that these new items might not make it in the next games.
 
I know there are new items, but it's likely that these new items might not be appearing in Pokemon games after Legends: Arceus, which repurposing the Adamant and Lustrous Orbs to fully act like the Griseous Orb is the perfect alternative in the scenario that these new items might not make it in the next games.

Well according to Centro their form names are called origin form so it is more likely that adamant orb and lustrous orb will be repurpose inthe future considering griseous orb is named griseous core in this game




Based on the story they are definitely the adamant and lustrous orbs they are just named differently because they were once accessories of the clan leader given to them from inheritance
 
I don't like new Dialga and Palkia as a design unless if being ugly is the point. I've seen them in-game too and... yeah as I expected these designs just aren't working for me. I will get used to them but that still means they won't be a favorite. A shame since I like the dragons otherwise.
 
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