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You are right. I meant to say that was most likely that it is evolution to its regular forme and unlikely that that there will be a Galar form. Wrote my last statement close to the end of my lunch break. Sorry for giving the impression that I that it was guaranteed.There is no confirmation of that.
Aaaah I know that feel. Break times make for such a tough thought crunch.You are right. I meant to say that was most likely that it is evolution to its regular forme and unlikely that that there will be a Galar form. Wrote my last statement close to the end of my lunch break. Sorry for giving the impression that I that it was guaranteed.
Well, the sword and shield are making it a fighting pokemonI think it would depend on some things- like veggie armor would keep with Farfetch'd's aesthetic. Any armor would also give something to change about a Galarian Farfetch'd, whereas right now... they'd just be turning Farfetch'd white and calling that Fighting somehow.
For Sirfetch'd, yes.Well, the sword and shield are making it a fighting pokemon
Well, there's only one form of Obstagoon, so it can't really be called a variant.And is Obstagoon a cross-gen evolution or a regional variant, or both?
It evolves from a variant line though, so it's not your run-of-the-mill cross-gen evolution either. Because it technically doesn't evolve from a Pokemon introduced in a previous generation. Anyway, it was just to illustrate that GF is blurring the lines between existing categories with these new designs and that we don't really have patterns to hold on to anymore.Well, there's only one form of Obstagoon, so it can't really be called a variant.
It evolves from a variant line though, so it's not your run-of-the-mill cross-gen evolution either.
It really does, though. Every other alternate form of a Pokemon is still considered to be the same species as the original-Castform's forms aren't new Pokemon, Wormadam's forms aren't new Pokemon, etc.Because it technically doesn't evolve from a Pokemon introduced in a previous generation.
They're really just fanmade categories, though, it's not like Game Freak is breaking their own established convention. And it still seems to fit pretty neatly into definitions to me-Anyway, it was just to illustrate that GF is blurring the lines between existing categories with these new designs and that we don't really have patterns to hold on to anymore.
Those are examples all introduced at the same time though? And regional variants are introduced as 'new' Pokemon (at least by marketing). Not to mention you need the new design to get Obstagoon, you can'st just get your regular old Linoone and evolve it into Obstagoon.Didn't say it was a regular crossgen, just saying that it can't be called a variant if there's only one form of it.
It really does, though. Every other alternate form of a Pokemon is still considered to be the same species as the original-Castform's forms aren't new Pokemon, Wormadam's forms aren't new Pokemon, etc.
I’ve seen several people speculate that Sirfetch’d will be Bea’s ace, but I don’t think that’ll be the case. Bea looks martial arts based as evident by her design and the Hitmontop she uses—I feel a knight Pokémon would be out of of place for her.
I can see Sirfetch’d getting a Fairy move, perhaps Play Rough, due to the presence of knights in a lot of fairy tales.
I can see Poison Jab, Swords Dance, Secret Sword, Slash, and Leaf Blade as likely moves, and Night Slash, Psycho Cut, and Icicle Spear as moves that’d be somewhat fitting.
Well... it does say "Farfetch'd of Galar" on Sirfetch'd's page while Zigzagoon's page also says "Zigzagoon of Galar" so I think it still could easily fall either way.Regardless, that's not really the point of this thread. I don't think we'll see a Galarian form of Farfetch'd cause Sirfetch'd description doesn't really hint at it.
Not seeing how that changes my point?Those are examples all introduced at the same time though?
No? They're referred to as alternate forms in marketing, not new species. And the PokeDex still registers them as the same species of Pokemon. Every official reference to them doesn't call them new Pokemon, so why should they be categorized as such?And regional variants are introduced as 'new' Pokemon (at least by marketing).
That's why I said Obstagoon was a regional evolution?Not to mention you need the new design to get Obstagoon, you can'st just get your regular old Linoone and evolve it into Obstagoon.
Your point being?Not seeing how that changes my point?
Apologies, apparently I was thinking of Megas and their marketing, or at the very least Mewtwo's Megas, cause they referred to Mega Mewtwo Y as a new Pokemon. At least in their email, as you can see here.No? They're referred to as alternate forms in marketing, not new species. And the PokeDex still registers them as the same species of Pokemon. Every official reference to them doesn't call them new Pokemon, so why should they be categorized as such?
That alternate forms of a Pokemon are still counted as the same Pokemon, like I opened that sentence with?Your point being?
If you want examples introduced in different generations, we can look at Cosplay Pikachu, Partner Eevee, Spiky-Eared Pichu,, Fairy-type Arceus, Ash-Greninja, 10% and complete Zygarde, all of which are still counted as being the same species as their first form.Every other alternate form of a Pokemon is still considered to be the same species as the original-
A cross-gen evolution is an evolution of a Pokemon introduced in a different gen. Just because we have a new form-based evolution method doesn't mean the definition's been changed at all, it just means we have a group that overlaps with it. If adding another evolution method muddled our definition of cross-gen evolutions, then we should have had problems all the way back in Gen 2, because it introduced new methods like trading while holding an item, and then again in Gen 4, with the introduction of location-based evolution, and again in Gen 6, with the introduction of Sylveon's evolution. If anything, the fact that Gen 8's cross gen evolution involves a new evolution method makes it more like other examples, since every other gen with cross gen evolution had at least one with a new method of evolving.Cross-gen evolutions used to be fairly clear-cut, and now with regional variants having the ability to evolve in new species, they're not anymore.
But nobody's using patterns of cross-gen evolutions as arguments? There's not even any patterns to discuss there. The only consistent thing about a cross-gen evolution is that it's an evolution of a Pokemon from a previous generation, which we already know Sirfetch'd to be.It just means we can't use these 'patterns' as part of our arguments anymore in our speculation.
As a side note, Absur'd