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Necrozma

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Why are people thinking that Type:Null is supposed to 'counter' certain legendaries? The flavor text for it that we have, as I recall, says it only needs to be strong like them. Honestly I would say the reasonable implication is that Aether, not believing in the pretty mythical Pokémon, created their own real strong Pokémon to combat Ultra Beasts.
While that is certainly possible, it's pretty clear from Type: Null's design that the myths of legendary Sinnoh Pokemon had an influence on them and the design of the Pokemon given that Type: Null has Arceus' ring around its neck. That can't be a coincidence, especially if you take the flavor text into consideration.
 

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Type Null would probably be as strong as Slaking, Flygon or Archeops.
 
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While that is certainly possible, it's pretty clear from Type: Null's design that the myths of legendary Sinnoh Pokemon had an influence on them and the design of the Pokemon given that Type: Null has Arceus' ring around its neck.
it's really not all that similar. they have a pike with jewel element somewhat in common, but that's about the end of it. that doesn't even consider the fact that there are notable differences anyways (re: Arceus's is a part of its body whereas Type:Null's is a part of a helmet; Type:Null's hinders its powers whereas Arceus's just seems like some design element that's there; Arceus has green "jewels" whereas Type:Null's appears to be more of a green design element since the same color is shared on other parts of the helmet; the pikes on Arceus are connected in twos whereas each pike on Type: Null is individual).

That can't be a coincidence, especially if you take the flavor text into consideration.
it can't be a coincidence because there's nothing there; it's just people looking for something. and for what it's worth, the flavor text that you're holding on to would imply multiple legendaries versus a single one and there would clearly be only one legendary influencing Type: Null's design in a very minor way (Arceus).
 

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If anything, if it is a reference to Arceus's ring around Type: Null's neck, that would imply that Type: Null is definitely weaker than Arceus, as they'd be using a symbol of Arceus to keep it contained.
 

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Okay, fine, I thought about it some more, and I suppose I might have gotten too wrapped up in my own theories and jumped the gun a little bit. Whatever. I still think it's fairly likely it will have around 680 BST and I certainly hope it does, way more interesting.

it's ugly anyway
 
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Arceus's ring was used to control Dialga and Palkia. Now it's being used to hinder Type: Null. So it's safe to assume that the ring is also controlling Arceus.
 

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Arceus's ring was used to control Dialga and Palkia.
Except it wasn't...not even close.

I definitely think that the Pokemon often spoken of in mythology is Arceus. Type: Null's helmet even has the same shape and type as Arceus backplate. That can't be a coincidence.
Except its not the same shape. The spikes on Arceus' rings are connected to each other, whereas none of the spikes on Type: Null's is connected, so it could honestly be a coincidence.
 
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Did you even look at that page?
Except we're talking about the games here, not the anime's interpretation of it. Nowhere in the games did it suggest the Red Chains were meant to mimic Arceus' ring, but were instead meant to mimic the Lake Guardian's power to suppress Dialga and Palkia (Plate's engravings: "Three beings were born to bind time and space.")

Renditions in other media don't depict it turning into Arceus' rings so I don't see why the anime gets prominence here other than to push a theory forward given that the game outright contradicts the statement I originally quoted.

The assumption that the ring somehow controls Arceus doesn't fit with the actual game lore since its the power of the Lake Trio (who Arceus created) that bind Palkia and Dialga. And as I stated in my above post, the shapes bare an incidental similarity, but they aren't the same, and I doubt they're made from the same material as the Red Chain given that they were made from the Lake Guardian's powers.
 
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So, random tidbit of the day:
New 'Sun & Moon' Set Stats, TCG Hints at No New Mega Evos and Lower Number of Alola Pokemon - PokéBeach / Pokémon TCG, games, and anime news!
The TCG is always a great source of fortunetelling, like how earlier this year the season themes were quite telling that somewhere after September a game was definitely coming. Probably not going to be Kalos' 72 Pokemon, but its definitely going to be low from what we can guess.
I'm not trying to get anyone's hopes up and I am personally suspecting a number around ~85-90, but is it possible the lower number of Alola Pokémon cards could be an attempt to bank in on it being the 20th anniversary and thus add in some past gen Pokémon?
 

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I'm not trying to get anyone's hopes up and I am personally suspecting a number around ~85-90, but is it possible the lower number of Alola Pokémon cards could be an attempt to bank in on it being the 20th anniversary and thus add in some past gen Pokémon?
The last set of Gen 6 is called Generations and has a shit ton of reprints from the first base set of the TCG ever, so the nostalgia cards were already played.
 

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The last set of Gen 6 is called Generations and has a shit ton of reprints from the first base set of the TCG ever, so the nostalgia cards were already played.
Yeah but that's less 'celebrate the franchise' and more 'celebrate the beginning'.
 

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And outside of generations, when has this not been the case?
Just suggesting an idea '~'

And for one, Pokémon Generations and the initial Pokémon Sun and Moon trailer tbh. Pokémon Generations has had 3 episodes for Kanto and Johto (2 if you don't count the 1st as Kanto), meaning that Kanto is either having equal or even less focus than other Gens.
 

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Thats what I mean, generations is the only thing this year so far that isn't a gen 1 party, and outside of maybe a couple of cameos neither is SM going to be much outside of gen 1 stuff.
 

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I've Got It!
Type:Null is a PRE-volution to Arceus! Its Arceus without a plate, so Null Type Arceus!
And you have to give it ALL the plates (One after the other) to evolve it!
"It All Comes Together!" XD

I'm kidding, of course.
 

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The last set of Gen 6 is called Generations and has a shit ton of reprints from the first base set of the TCG ever, so the nostalgia cards were already played.
Wait, isn't it Evolutions, not Generations? I know Generations is the one they released with the special promo cards for each month's new mon...
 

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So what's everyone expecting from the trailer? Seeing as August and September's CoroCoro and trailer only had some overlaps, I'm personally expecting Type:Null with the other CoroCoro details saved for later.

Tbh I've given up on seeing Cutiefly's evo officialy revealed, its probably this Gen's Espurr.
 

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So what's everyone expecting from the trailer? Seeing as August and September's CoroCoro and trailer only had some overlaps, I'm personally expecting Type:Null with the other CoroCoro details saved for later.

Tbh I've given up on seeing Cutiefly's evo officialy revealed, its probably this Gen's Espurr.
Well, more so Trevenant than Espurr,

As for the trailer, I'm expecting something other than Type: Null from CoroCoro, and that's it, so just like how September was.

I'd be happy to be wrong, though. :p
 
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