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[Aulos]

And lets be honest, how is customization not an upside?

Pokemon games are in the online realm now. You interact with different people regularly. To have them all look like the base trainers is just weird, it shouldn't be that way. Of course a number of Pokemon games give you the option to appear as a trainer class to other people, but if that's the case, why not just go full-blown and allow customization as they have here and in X/Y?

 

[Esserise]

I motion that we remove avatars, user titles, and signatures from this site, on account of them being pointless, unnecessary, and adding no tangible benefit to the forum experience.

Is it even necessary to nickname the Rockruff before trading it away (say if you haven't thought of a name yet)? I thought if you evolved a traded Pokemon, that Pokemon still technically belonged to its original Trainer? Or am I forgetting something too here? xD

You are correct, but then, it wouldn't be right if I made a post without over-thinking it in some way.

Although Pesky makes a good point that it would help to prevent it from getting mixed up with another Rockruff.

 

[Kallyle]

@Arceus the Dragon

It's all fine and dandy to have an opinion, but your 'opinion' crosses dangerously over into "If I don't like it, it's against the nature of the game and thus no one should have the option" territory and those kinds of 'opinions' I can not respect.

If it was a feature that has been traditionally forced on us, like the Pokemon following feature very much was in HG/SS, than it would be a little different, but here you have a case of something that is completely optional to you, but you're still going to be a stick in the mud and act like no one should have the option. And your reasoning is because it is 'pointless' and adds nothing? Clearly your opinion of what constitutes the value of a feature being added is entirely different from mine and many others, you need to realize that.

Under other circumstances, I would have agreed with you on this post. However, @Arceus the Dragon merely stated his opinion on he matter. He doesn't like it because he feels it adds nothing to the game other than being an in-game avatar. It other words, character customization, while a nice feature, doesn't really help improve the quality of the gameplay. Not once has he said that other people can't use it.

I may enjoy the feature, but he does have a point that it would be better if certain types of clothing had more benefits than looks. Ultimately, I don't think that we should force our opinion on him in regards to character customization. It's just rude to dismiss someone's opinion just because it's unpopular!

 

[Kharixi]

I motion that we remove avatars, user titles, and signatures from this site, on account of them being pointless, unnecessary, and adding no tangible benefit to the forum experience.

I second this motion.

 

[Stitsworth]

Type specialists clothes please so I can finally look the part of a Dragon user.

Of course there isn't. Pokemon games are about catching pokemon and being the best trainer. Not expressing ourselves.

I just don't get it. Express yourself or do not express yourself, that is the question.

 

[ange]

I went nuts over the animation for Eevee's Z-move. Disappointed it's just a stat booster but it's great none-the-less. Good to see the whole eeveelution squad down to help their little buddy!

I was so ready for Eevee to do some sort of ultra amazing Mega Man Final Smash OHKO move with all its Eeveelutions or turn into Mega Eevee or some new form we've never seen before, and then it was just a stat boost. xD

 

[Stitsworth]

I was so ready for Eevee to do some sort of ultra amazing Mega Man Final Smash OHKO move with all its Eeveelutions or turn into Mega Eevee or some new form we've never seen before, and then it was just a stat boost. xD

I was in the same boat! I remember thinking, "Shit, Eevee is going to get a Z-form or something!.. Well, nope.."

 

[PurplePopplio]

I was hoping that Eevee's Z-Move was like Tri-Attack. But nope just up-powered. :/

 

[Arceus the Dragon]

I just don't get it. Express yourself or do not express yourself, that is the question.

It isn't just about expressing ourselves, it is about how useful it is in the games and so far customization has not proved to be useful in any way in my opinion. For me, it is the single worst thing to ever happen in the pokemon games and I hope one day they remove it or at least improve it so it is useful and rewarding.

 

[Kharixi]

It isn't just about expressing ourselves, it is about how useful it is in the games and so far customization has not proved to be useful in any way in my opinion. For me, it is the single worst thing to ever happen in the pokemon games and I hope one day they remove it or at least improve it so it is useful and rewarding.

You say that, but like @Stitsworth quoted,

Type specialists clothes please so I can finally look the part of a Dragon user.

Why suddenly are you completely against this idea?

 

[Arceus the Dragon]

You say that, but like @Stitsworth quoted,

Why suddenly are you completely against this idea?

Obviously they not going to do type specialists clothes and like I said, Customization has proven to me to be a utterly useless feature that has no significant purpose in the game. My opinion though.

 

[PurplePopplio]

Can we please just change the topic? This argument is going nowhere.

I can't wait to see what's happening on the 4th! Maybe more new Pokemon? Maybe Alolan Persian?

 

[Aulos]

Under other circumstances, I would have agreed with you on this post. However, @Arceus the Dragon merelh stated his opinion on he matter. He doesn't like it because he feels it adds nothing to the game other than being an in-game avatar. It other words, character customization, while a nice feature, doesn't really help improve the quality of the gameplay. Not once has he said that other people can't use it.

I may enjoy the feature, but he does have a point that it would be better if certain types of clothing had more benefits than looks. Ultimately, I don't think that we should force our opinion on him in regards to character customization. It's just rude to dismiss someone's opinion just because it's unpopular!

Pay attention to the tone of their posts. It is never explicitly said that "this feature should not be here because I do not like it"... Or nevermind, just read the post they just made. Because *they* think that it is 'useless' they hope it is either removed or changed to bring effects based on what clothing you wear.

You see... This is where the opinion crosses beyond a respectable opinion. It is okay to think that the feature is worthless, it is okay to not care for it. But to turn around and say that because you think it adds nothing to the game (which is different from a feature actually making a game worse) it should be removed is crossing a line.

It is an OPTIONAL feature. If someone finds it pointless than they don't have to use it, and it doesn't effect their gameplay. It is literally a win-win situation for those who don't want to do it themselves and those who do.

To be honest, *I* would not want clothes to effect the game beyond visuals. First of all how would that even work in Pokemon? (The game is about Pokemon and their abilities, not the player character's) Second of all, I don't want my fashion dictating how the game plays, because then there might be features I want but they come with atrociously ugly outfits, and the outfits that make me the happiest and fit me the best might not have any benefits or might make things worse.

Note: I am opposed to it because the way that outfit options would effect the gameplay would NOT be optional. I've never seen it work that way, and to be honest, I don't even see how it would fit Pokemon at all to begin with.

 

[Stitsworth]

Roger that.

I am hoping to see some more Alolan forms, and though I'm not sure how likely it is, a jangmo-o evolution. I'm very curious to see where his design goes!

 

[Arceus the Dragon]

Pay attention to the tone of their posts. It is never explicitly said that "this feature should not be here because I do not like it"... Or nevermind, just read the post they just made. Because *they* think that it is 'useless' they hope it is either removed or changed to bring effects based on what clothing you wear.

You see... This is where the opinion crosses beyond a respectable opinion. It is okay to think that the feature is worthless, it is okay to not care for it. But to turn around and say that because you think it adds nothing to the game (which is different from a feature actually making a game worse) it should be removed is crossing a line.

It is an OPTIONAL feature. If someone finds it pointless than they don't have to use it, and it doesn't effect their gameplay. It is literally a win-win situation for those who don't want to do it themselves and those who do.

To be honest, *I* would not want clothes to effect the game beyond visuals. First of all how would that even work in Pokemon? (The game is about Pokemon and their abilities, not the player character's) Second of all, I don't want my fashion dictating how the game plays, because then there might be features I want but they come with atrociously ugly outfits, and the outfits that make me the happiest and fit me the best might not have any benefits or might make things worse.

Note: I am opposed to it because the way that outfit options would effect the gameplay would NOT be optional. I've never seen it work that way, and to be honest, I don't even see how it would fit Pokemon at all to begin with.

First off, there is no tone to any of my posts. Yes it is optional but it should at least gives us some kind of reward for dressing in a particular way. For example, Dragon Fang is given to you if you dress as a Dragon Tamer. That is the kind of thing that would make Customization more useful. As far as I am concerned, my opinion didn't cross any line and I fail to see how great customization is when it clearly provides nothing but style in my opinion.

 

[PurplePopplio]

Roger that.

I am hoping to see some more Alolan forms, and though I'm not sure how likely it is, a jangmo-o evolution. I'm very curious to see where his design goes!

Thank you.
It seems like the Alolan forms are being handled the same way as Team Skull or the Aether Foundation and other features. They show a bit of something new and then move onto something else that is also new.

Jangmo-o does have the pride of a warrior. So maybe Dragon/Fighting?

 

[Stitsworth]

Thank you.
It seems like the Alolan forms are being handled the same way as Team Skull or the Aether Foundation and other features. They show a bit of something new and then move onto something else that is also new.

Jangmo-o does have the pride of a warrior. So maybe Dragon/Fighting?

I've noticed that as well, they seem to just drop tid-bits here and there. I can defineltey see Alolan Persian though. I wasn't too impressed with Alolan Meowth, but it was still neat. Dragon/Fighting Jangmo-o would be awesome! Love that idea. Fairy would have their way with it, but it would probably turn into one of my favorites if the design pulls through.

 

[canisaries]

Thank you.
It seems like the Alolan forms are being handled the same way as Team Skull or the Aether Foundation and other features. They show a bit of something new and then move onto something else that is also new.

Jangmo-o does have the pride of a warrior. So maybe Dragon/Fighting?

Spoiler: Spoiler: Leaks

The Riddler seems to have put the picture of the monk staff right after Jangmo-o in their dex, so it might end up having something to do with that.

I'm still thinking half Fighting or half Steel, though. The description matches both a knight and a warrior type to me. Either would be cool, tbh.

 

[Stitsworth]

Spoiler: Spoiler: Leaks

Spoiler: Leaks

I've noticed that as well, I wouldn't be surprised if they went some completely opposite direction

I've heard Steel as well, which I wouldn't mind at all either.

 

[Aulos]

First off, there is no tone to any of my posts. Yes it is optional but it should at least gives us some kind of reward for dressing in a particular way. For example, Dragon Fang is given to you if you dress as a Dragon Tamer. That is the kind of thing that would make Customization more useful. As far as I am concerned, my opinion didn't cross any line and I fail to see how great customization is when it clearly provides nothing but style in my opinion.

I think you still aren't understanding. What you said here is an opinion that is not crossing a line, but in a post above you said something along the lines of "if they can't give benefits for wearing clothing than it should be removed". That's where you cross a line.

It can happen to us all, we can fall into a mindset where we don't see the value in a feature and feel put off by everyone else liking it. As I said, that happened with me with the Pokemon following feature. Although the Pokemon following feature is still a different case, because it isn't optional when it is present, they make you do it no matter what.

But unless it actually impedes upon gameplay and/or isn't optional than it is crossing a line to say "Either they make it to my liking or they remove it".

Nevertheless, now I understand where you're coming from. That wearing a certain costume would make you get to feel like you are actually a member of that trainer class. I still don't much care for it, because I don't want to have to wear an outfit I think is ugly to get a benefit, although if it were only temporary that would be one thing.

That is your opinion. Personally, I think leaving clothes as just clothes helps keep it as something that is personal and optional, as opposed to something you have to do to get certain items and effect the gameplay. Then it does actually feel like wearing certain clothing is actually forced upon you, whereas in the current system changing your outfit at all is completely optional, and if you change it, you can wear whatever fits your style and it just is.